"I kneel and ask forgiveness for Serbia for the crime committed in Srebrenica," Tadic's successor Tomislav Nikolic said in 2013.

20 years later Serbs still refuse to call Srebrenica genocide

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o god :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
notice how they say clan...a clan is like 3-10 people LOL its not like the bloods and cripps in the USA a clan does not really have "turf" and the geo locations in their names are just where they are from LOL

its amusing that I know most of these people, the biggest "gang" on the list is 10 people strong and they are dead, the police shot them, literally...

surcin clan-zoran sijan former kickboxing buddy of mine=dead
zemun clan-I Know most of them,lived in the same block, the biggest gang serbia ever had, 10 people strong and maybe 2 are still alive and 0 are free, they had no street presence at all, they just imported coke and killed off rivals
saric gang-all in prison they got 40 years
vozdovac-LOL 3-4 dudes who import weed from albania and buy coke from saric :1orglaugh
zvezdara-I do not know them so this speaks volumes...ill go bitch slap them around if you wish?
dorcol group-if you had a time machine and went back to the 90-s LOL they are all RIP
karaburma-LOL I did not know they had a clan :1orglaugh
rumski gang?!?!?!?!? wtf? first time I ever heard of them and I Know everybody LOL
pecas gang-LOL peconi dude is a money launderer, if he does some coke importing I would not be surprised
arkan was killed like 20 years ago LOL
elez group LOL like 3 people importing coke
zemun clan you mentioned already LOL
kekas group actually operate in brazil but don't let that stand in your way
saric gang again? LOL dude got 40 years
serbian brotherhood??? sounds like a bunch of fags IMO

pink panther is from montenegro...they do high speed jewelry heists...they are not even a gang they do not even have a structure...

dude gangs in the USA have 1000-s of members...they have turf....there is no such thing in my country we have 0 gangs...we have drug dealers but this is not a gang LOL...ok if 3-4 guys selling weed or coke is a gang then LOL

and no I am not a criminal, we are a small country I happen to know lots of politicians, bankers and other criminals as well :1orglaugh

serbia is much safer than the USA...before the war the US stoked in our country we were ridiculously safe...

dude...just stop ok? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

educate yourself on what the 3rd world really is ok? :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

you will find my map there LOL...

I was just amazed he posted that, what a tool :1orglaugh

I mean you must be REALLY dumb to post that map, amazingly dumb :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

A map where Sweden is "3d world" did not give him a hint that this might not be the relevant map :1orglaugh

He did it again! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://orig10.deviantart.net/29db/f/...es-d4zpcje.jpg

its funny he should say that, during the war he exclaimed that for every killed serb they would kill 100 muslims...he was not in power back then but its hypocritical to the max that he would say that...

still, serbia did not take part in the war at all, and the USA killed millions of asians LOL but it was over a 20 year period so its all kosher :thumbsup

so the 8.000 people killed in srebrenica by para-military is obviously worse than the millions upon millions of asians killed by the official US military, you make such a valid point :thumbsup

dynamo the master of making a good point :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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you stupid fuck LOL

I don't know why people are arguing in this thread. Guns = violence. Period. Target practice? OK. So I can better use my weapon to.....kill something (or hit it with a bullet).

Guns = violence. America (and the world?) has become desensitized by violence on TV, video games, the news, constant, never-ending fear via terrorism, etc. Show a nipple and America loses its' mind but watch any American TV drama and it's ALL about guns, blood, death, violence.

This is not coincidence it is manipulation and well planned propaganda to soften the American population so we won't have protests like we did in the sixties. Corporations HATE 'speed bumps' - anything that gets in their way of doing whatever they want. Guns, violence, drugs, unrest, silly discussions about abortion, gay marriage and immigrants - ANYTHING but mass protests to stop the economic ball rolling.

Why can't we all agree on these simple, basic (non-partisan) truths?

you must have spilled your liquor bottle in your bomb crater today, just scoop as much up as you can for tomorrow and try to sleep off your drunken stupor, maybe even not have any nightmares about the genocide you and your komrades committed and still refuse to admit.

Godwin's law will be invoked in this thread any minute, I can feel it in my bones :2 cents:

do you understand what your posting is propaganda?

info contradicts itself saying its impossible to correlate the trends. i would simply re-assert that drugs have a demand that guns would never match up to. the fact that there are no submachine-gun mass murders is solid evidence the government controls the guns it wants to control.

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The guns will always be out there, they've been manufacture in mass for the public since the civil war and there is nothing you or I or the government can do. They are in grandpas attic, a crazy persons pocket, a criminals waistband and a stand up citizens holster.

Crazy people and criminals are never going away either and they are apart of nature in the same way a shark or a bear is.. The will kill and that has nothing to do with guns. They will use swords, knives, poison, small round candy and cars, busses and explosives to tear at society. It's just up to us to be prepared as civil as possible for these creatures of nature.

i've made up my mind that banning guns completely misses the problem. and i've made up my mind that if we don't remember the past, we're doomed to repeat it.

and i've made up my mind that i'm open to quelling the violence in America, not making it worse by avoiding the real reasons for it.

you shouldn't make assumptions about what i have made up my mind about simply because i post a food for fucking thought article on why banning guns could very well mimic the clusterfuck of banning liquor combined with the evidence from elsewhere that it does not address the underlying factors of violence in society, as evidenced by Aus increase in other violent crimes.

How about admitting that you made a major fool out of yourself with that map, because if you still not see it - you would make an enormous fool out of yourself. Now it is just a major fool.

Amazing, a dude post Cold war alliances map and thinks that he is proving current 3d world terminology and what countries rank as 3d world and what not.
A map that has Sweden as 3d world and Zimbabwe as 1st world does not give him a hint that this may be completely irrelevant map! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

How is that even possible? :helpme:1orglaugh

No, It was predictable.
The race war set up by the mainstream white house controlled media by the current Obama administration... claims yet more victims.

If the government take away our guns that's like Hitler burning books. There you go ... :upsidedow

I don't recall anyone around here defending the Vietnam War policy. The Korean War was a UN war technically. Both Vietnam and Korea were part of the cold-war between the US Russia and China -- all 3 share the blame (or blame each other).

As far as Japan and WW2. The Japanese Asian attacked the Manchurian Chinese Asian and the Korean Asian and the Filipino Asian as well as any other Indochina Asian that they could attack to expand their Empire. The Japanese Asian killed more Asians than the US did in WW2. :2 cents:

The Japanese Empire also started hostilities with the USA by attacking the US Fleet at Perl Harbor while everyone was sleeping on Sunday morning.

Fortunately 9/11 has not resulted in WW3 (yet).

None of this has anything to do with the two news reporters that were shot and killed today.
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Oh, and in the USA many get wasted and party with alcohol, drugs and GUNS. There is a body count every weekend. But that is not the case here so that is really immaterial. This is another isolated nut-case that had a firearm to kill with.

If he wasn't a nut-case he would have been more rational and not pulled the trigger. If you took away all the firearms in the US killers would find other ways to kill. In 15 seconds a man with 2 combat knives could kill 2 civilians. If you think about it police make no effort to disarm people threatening them with a knife they just shoot them. So, would a pedestrian disarm a man wielding a knife? Most would just run. So the argument that if he hadn't had a gun in the first place no one would have died ( in this case ) is meaningless.

This was a double homicide not a mass killing and if it been 3 street people in Chicago no one would even give a fuck. It would not have made the national news :2 cents:

This just shows you have no idea and are most likely American as they are the only nationality that would twist the numbers like that.
Gun control works, anyone who wants a gun in Australia can get one, its just hard for the would be criminals or those with mental health issues, or those who need one "today" so they can use it... It certainly does not stop gun crime but it does stop the vast majority of it.

The carrying of a hand gun, having one for "protection", having one for the house, one for the car and one for the wife.. was NEVER legal here, that's just USA stupidity.

The situation you have in the USA is insane why anyone there defends guns at all is mind-blowing literary
And sadly from an outsider looking in, it seems that the USA is unfolding in to civil war again, slowly but surly the seeds are being sewn.

Not one single American gives one single shit that our Constitution does not coincide with your elitist view.

I thought this was the thread about the 2 journalists shot... but it appears to be about Serbia and the Cold War....

Anyway... just saw the video that the shooter filmed... terrible thing to do; terrible way to go; terrible loss for their families...The good part for the US is one crazy armed negro less on the streets... what a fucking disgusting narcicistic psychopath...

Fucking serbian cockgoblers talkin shit about my country? Send them few more bombs asap :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

“As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” - Vester Flanagan

I hope a race war can be averted

Well played sir, well played :1orglaugh

that lady got shot in the back they were interviewing

I completely made that up. However, a quick search tells me it seems to be easy enough to buy:

armor piercing bullets For Sale ? Buy armor piercing bullets Online at GunBroker.com
Armor Piercing Ammunition

This article, from February of this year, discusses the ATF trying to block surplus armor piercing ammunition sales.

http://www.news-leader.com/story/new...lets/23816437/

Here is another article from March:

What You Need to Know About the Armor-Piercing Bullet Controversy - Bloomberg Business

And then society questions why our local police wants surplus armored vehicles from the military.

That's because society is right to question the legitimacy of police militarization. How many cops have died from armor piercing bullets?

First of all, this guy wasn't crazy he Just wanted to make a name for himself by doing something he KNEW would make people know and remember his name .

He had this ALL planned out for a long time. Had his real car parked at airport for month and was using rental car etc...

A Crazy guy doesn't put a camera exactly where he knows it is catching all the action. he just goes ballistic and starts shooting. This guy just wanted to do extreme SHOCK by filming it and posting it on FB and Twitter he didn't care who saw it your sons, daughters, etc... . he's a piece of shit and GOOD RIDDANCE hes gone. Punk took pussies way out.

Yes I don't doubt that a country where people are riding donkey carts around is generally safer than the US unless you happen to run into an ethnic cleansing. Like I said, you can't compare them. Two very different countries with different demographics.

And lets not forget the thread where you and several others have said that the area would be better off if the ethnic cleansing was allowed to continue. basically advocating not just murder but genocide. yep, you are a peaceful people.

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So we got it wrong, we should have armed everyone, what were we thinking?

Hmmm

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Nup, looks like we got it right :thumbsup

i couldn't give a shit if y'all got it right or wrong. i'm not the one looking down my nose at your Constitution. I provided that article as food for thought re: the potential problems of banning shit based on, you know, banning shit. i didn't post it as if i give a shit about guns in australia, because i do not.

The sooner something is done the better. These stories are horrific to continually read :2 cents:

sorry. i tried to delete my comment realizing it was presumptuous.

Guns are not banned, anyone of age can go and buy one. That's what so many tend to forget, its not about banning just keeping them out of the hands of those who should not have and reducing the ease of access.

And its that ease of access.. that kills so many Americans every year.

Its just baffling to the rest of the world when a few guys with pocket knives attack your country and you change the way every citizen lives there after and shove the constitution right up every American and every other countries ass for ever, but when it comes to guns... everyone is so complacent.

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can't wait for the next thread ..... :thumbsup

As I've said many times before, I'm not American nor have I ever been there, so I don't understand the gun culture/right to bear arms mindset, and never will. Easy for me to say ban guns etc, but all I have to go on is my own experience, therefore I won't because experience is everything.

That said though, why does this not happen in countries with very strict gun control? Where are all the nutcases with small round candy killing people with it? Of all the sound arguments to use, I don't think that's a viable one.

Anyway, interesting reading both sides as always, so carry on :)

There is nothing within acceptable parameters that could have stopped this guy.

I'm not saying guns are banned in aus. I'm replying to the opinions claiming our constitution is stupid, archaic, outdated, etc et al

I'm all for smart gun legislation.

""opinions claiming our constitution is stupid, archaic, outdated..""

1787

That makes absolutely zero sense. And certainly doesn't help you with your problem that our Constitution isn't aligned with your view from outside looking in.

Exactly.

Literally nothing could have prevented this from happening except for the guy himself just deciding not to be an asshole.

No gun laws will ever prevent a shooting because criminals don't follow laws.

I'm pretty sure that places with the highest levels of gun control actually have more crimes.

If you were a criminal in an area where no one had guns, who would shoot back at you? No one.

In places where gun controls are relaxed, and there could be a gun anywhere on the street, people who are about to commit a shooting are a little more hesitant because there could be someone shooting back.

Why do you think school shootings are always in these little cute schools with no guards or unarmed guards.

You won't see a school shooting happen in the hood because the kids will fuck them up first. And don't get the parents involved, they'll shoot a motherfucker if you mess with their kids.