according to research, libertarians vote libertarian, if there is no libertarian, they split amongst dems and repubs.

Where does the Libertarian vote go?

Examining the Libertarian Vote in Depth | Cato Institute

if you have research to the contrary, i'd read it. i'm also still up for seeing that one post of yours siding with a conservative view. and not banning guns isn't conservative, very very few dems advocate banning guns.

You didn't say Democat views you said liberal.. Liberals are against guns.. Don't try to change the goal post because you don't like the response.. I've also stated that I'm very much against anchor babies.. Again a view at odds with liberal thinking and democratic polices.. I've also stated I'm all for welfare reform to weed out hibitual offenders and lifers.. I think welfare should exist, but it should have a time limit for able body people which are capable of working..

I could go on and on.. Like I believe black people often cause their own problems because of their aditudes of entitlement. Yet I don't think all black people are this way, but it is certainly a crutch which many use as an excuse to do nothing with their lives.. This in its self has become and continues to be a generational issues with black people.. Is that very liberal?

Yet all this is too liberal I guess, because I speak the truth about the crazy which has become the Republican Party and the right wing..

Candidates are now saying anything to get attention.

This is the problem, because no one will report anything that is said which might be "normal". So these guys are all racing to be the most extreme..

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no, read it again, i stated libertarians voted libertarian. and asked for a link of you siding with a conservative viewpoint.

I'm talking about libertairns elected to office.. They almost always run on the Republican tickets and are elected to office as Republicans.

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you were referring to the other gfy poster being libertarian.

i;m also not finding anything on Libertarians switching political affiliation to the repub party to get elected, ~18% of congress is Libertarian.

I know we could tatoo bar codes on the immigrant's forearms. Wait a minute that was done in the past wasn't it. Never mind.

native Americans were not native, they migrated here in 3 waves, initially via a land bridge from SIberia.

So, why did you post that again ?

Fucked up the fiddy dammit.

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Gary Johnson, Robbie's favorite libertarian was voted into office as New Mexico's Govenor as a Republican.. Ron Paul and Rand Paul both claimed to be libertarians but ran as Republicans.. I don't think there is a single libertarian in congress which is not elected as a Republican..

Also the demographics of libertarians has changed a lot in recent years, as it because the go to party for embarrassed Republicans after Obama was elected a second time..

Prior to this most "independents" leaned to the left and stats backed that up, due to there not being a "liberal" party. However after Obama's second win, Republicans had a mass exodus to become "independent" and their go to party was libertarian..

Considering how condescending liberals can be to minorities AND the history of the Democratic party AND the history of global EUGENICS (see racial disproportion in abortion), racism and 'liberalism' tend to go hand in hand.:helpme:helpme:helpme

1. I did not reply to any comment. I started the thread.

2. You should know by now that you are not welcome here.

3. Fuck off and die.

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Fuck that. Even libtards stay silent in response :helpme

No because it's dumb and he purposely uses a graph from the first couple of years of Obama presidency. The first year was not Obama's budget but Bush's as is with every president and most of the bail outs which caused the spikes as well as the two wars were all put in places by Bush not Obama.

Obama did extend the bail outs later, and that part is his, but the biggest chuck was already put into place by the Bush admin, to carry on I to the next presidency..

If you show the full story.. Ie going into Obama's second term you see the deficient no longer growing.. However he just wanted to cherry pick and blame Obama...

When you look at facts instead of cherry picking then it's a whole diffrent story.. Ie Dyna Mo tries to mislead to fit his agenda..

http://crooksandliars.com/files/imag..._gdp_obama.jpg

Thanks, Obama!

And when was that? and what's the source of your information?

I purposely used that graph becausev it's the latest data, I'm always up for reality, if you have a more current graph I'm happy to look at it. I won't hold my breath, we all are very aware you don't backup your make believe with actual proof.

that was 15,000 years ago, the source of my information is science research.

"Research conducted by an international team led by scientists from Harvard University and University College London illuminates the roots of today?s Native Americans through genetic analysis and by comparison with native groups in Siberia.

The Americas? first human settlers arrived in a complex series of migrations, pushing over the ancient land bridge from Asia at least three times but moving in both directions, with at least one group scrapping it all and bringing themselves and their genetic signature back home to Asia."


Mystery of Native American's arrival | Harvard Gazette

so i just saw this, surfing this piece of shit board on a mobile device sucks truly.

anyway, since you like to accuse people of cherry-picking info, i'll go ahead and accuse you of the same, those forecasts are fantasy. even at MSNBC

Kiss that 'shrinking' budget deficit goodbye

"Absent substantial fiscal reform, obligations for retirement benefits, health care and other spending will be pushing that deficit higher and higher in the years to come, with the CBO projecting the number to approach $1 trillion again by 2024.

The 2016 number is expected to grow 18.6 percent to $556 billion, before a one-time drop to $530 billion the following year. From there, the deficit goes on a glide path higher to the point where it more than doubles the 2015 figure by 2022, the CBO estimates."

BOOM

"A final word on Obama’s point from the experts.

The deficit has come down in recent years because of the strengthening economy, which drives tax revenues up, and the draw-down of various economic stimulus programs that were implemented to weather the financial crisis. Additionally, the expiration of 2 percent payroll tax cuts and increases in tax rates for high-income earners played a role, albeit a smaller one.

"It’s not clear one would want to view the evolution as relating to fiscal responsibility rather than an improving economy," Auerbach said.

The deficits have largely come down as a result of the improved economy for which Obama cannot assume full credit."

Barack Obama claims deficit has decreased by two-thirds since taking office | PolitiFact


"under current law, deficits will begin rising again in 2016—and by 2024, debt will reach 78 percent of GDP, twice the average of the past 40 years."
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/45229

fiscal responsibility for either party is a joke concept.

Improving the economy is how they reduce the deficit, it's pretty much how CLinton did it as well. The reason it grew so much under Bush and even the start of Obam's presidency was because of the two wars and the economy crashing.. It's never because they cut spending.

Well Obama did cut spending on wars.. But that was a given as we couldn't very well stay in them non stop.. Well as long as you keep the neo cons like McCain, Cheney ect out of office..

That has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility, as the experts point out.

how did clinton improve the economy?

I never said Democrats were fisically responable, it's Republicans which always claim they are..but of course they never are which is what I said..

Democrats are just not fucking crazy for the most part unlike allmost all Republicans.. Democrats are not trying to destroy this country like the nut job consertives are.. Democrats sure as hell aren't perfect, but they are a hell of a lot better option than the current right wing..

If Republicans were controlling the White House right now, we would be at war in Syria, Iraq, Afghan and probably Iran.. They would of broke this country by spending countless billions more on war and the economy never would have gotten better because of it..

Lots of shady shit with Christie... I wouldn't want his ass President:

Lead legal representation resigns from Christie campaign:
N.J. Republicans lose top lawyer over Sheridan deaths | NJ.com

Parents killed:
Fire ruled intentional: Deaths of John Sheridan, wife still under investigation | NJ.com

Prosecutor says all is well:
The original statement of Somerset County statement has been removed from the internet but said there is no danger... i.e. meaning no threat to community. This was about 2 days after parents were killed.
Children of John Sheridan and wife played no role in parents' deaths, prosecutor says | NJ.com

And then this:
Were Sheridan deaths a murder-suicide? Family still has questions | NJ.com

Anyone who can read will know that the murder weapon (a knife), that killed Mr. Sheridan was never found. Yet the Somerset County DA office convicted and prosecuted a dead man of murder why?

Fuck NJ and Fuck Chris Christie...