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Rochard 09-09-2015 12:25 PM

Why isn't Russia taking them all in? I mean, Syria was in the Russian sphere of influence, right?

dyna mo 09-09-2015 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20575125)
How many Mexicans enter America these days ??

although i'm not sure what your point is, the answer is:

As of 2013, approximately 11.6 million Mexican immigrants resided in the United States?up from 2.2 million in 1980?and Mexicans accounted for 28 percent of the country?s 41.3 million foreign born.

Mexican immigration to the United States has begun to decline?marking at least a pause, and possibly an end to the fourth wave. Declining inflows appear to reflect the impact of the Great Recession, improved educational and economic opportunities in Mexico, and ever-tougher border enforcement.

out of 350 million Americans

Mexican Immigrants in the United States | migrationpolicy.org

Barefootsies 09-09-2015 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx (Post 20570430)
Why Europe?

Why do they not seek refuge in other more stable and wealthy Arabic/Islamic countries , like Kuwait , Saudi and the other Gulf States.

Wouldn't that make sense?

I guess the reason is , those countries do not want them.

Which begs the question...why not?



Sly 09-09-2015 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20575139)
Why isn't Russia taking them all in? I mean, Syria was in the Russian sphere of influence, right?

Russian troops are in Syria. This has been confirmed. They may mainly be advising, but they are there.

femdomdestiny 09-09-2015 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20575019)
i know from first hand how it looks in those refugees camps, at least in my country. i know some of them are like animals, do not want to work, do not want to clean anything, are rude at the staff who wants to help them. but are all of those like that? have you seen them all? have you tried to help any of them? have you tried to help mother with child? have the mother told you fuck off? :2 cents:

Not wanting to work or clean is smallest problem. From what you wrote, I can make a conclusion that you don't have experience with muslims at all.

Are you blind not to see that is completely different culture and way of thinking. Religious hordes that are not respecting other cultures and are so closed and fucked up that their own women in 21century don't have all rights and freedom.

And logic you are using makes me ask you : Have you eat every shit on earth, maybe some of them are good, you just need to try them all.

femdomdestiny 09-09-2015 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20575139)
Why isn't Russia taking them all in? I mean, Syria was in the Russian sphere of influence, right?

Sure, otherwise there would be no Syria no more long ago. They are managing to survive for many years back. I guess that Syrians can't handle anymore all this devastation backed by foreign money and Saudi support , so Russians will now step in. From what I read, first contingent is already there securing place where military base is currently built for more troops.

klinton 09-09-2015 12:54 PM

they are there since 40 years in case you dont know - on various engagement levels and quantity
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20575150)
Russian troops are in Syria. This has been confirmed. They may mainly be advising, but they are there.


klinton 09-09-2015 01:00 PM

so basically - you leave mess and your shit around and enjoy your happy meal far away at the other side of Atlantic ?
why you ever invaded iraq in 2003 except for money (for some people), power and oil ?
why you supported Anti-Assad "liberal Arabs" coalition that basically became ISIS ?
you think that you may still mess around in this world and enjoy your happy meals far away ?
some people say that governments are THAT stupid (all done by accident and without knowledge= unforseen consquences) or THAT smart (conspiracy theories, all made on purpose).
you never know.
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20574850)
that's about the only link between USA iraq and syria- USA provides billions of dollars of military equipment to Iraq, iraqis abandon that equipment in the heat of battle, isis gets it and uses it to advance into and take over syria.


Scott McD 09-09-2015 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20575143)
although i'm not sure what your point is, the answer is:

As of 2013, approximately 11.6 million Mexican immigrants resided in the United States?up from 2.2 million in 1980?and Mexicans accounted for 28 percent of the country?s 41.3 million foreign born.

Wasn't being a cunt but just pointing out Europe isn't alone as it's usually highlighted on this board about the Mexican influx in America...

dyna mo 09-09-2015 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20575174)
so basically - you leave mess and your shit around and enjoy your happy meal far away at the other side of Atlantic ?
why you ever invaded iraq in 2003 except for money (for some people), power and oil ?
why you supported Anti-Assad "liberal Arabs" coalition that basically became ISIS ?
you think that you may still mess around in this world and enjoy your happy meals far away ?
some people say that governments are THAT stupid (all done by accident and without knowledge= unforseen consquences) or THAT smart (conspiracy theories, all made on purpose).
you never know.

heads-up arabs have been slaughtering arabs and others for long before America was even a country.

you need to blame America and point your finger at Americans for mcdonalds and i get that. you are free to do so.

femdomdestiny 09-09-2015 01:20 PM

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in a new book "WikiLeaks Files" states that the US planned to overthrow the government of Syria long before the start of the rebellion in 2011.


https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url

Bryan G 09-09-2015 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20575185)
heads-up arabs have been slaughtering arabs and others for long before America was even a country.

you need to blame America and point your finger at Americans for mcdonalds and i get that. you are free to do so.

True. However, had Bush just fucked off and left Saddam be we would not have IS today now would we?

dyna mo 09-09-2015 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 20575187)
True. However, had Bush just fucked off and left Saddam be we would not have IS today now would we?

you have no idea if that's right or wrong. based on arabs slaughterings over 1000s and 1000s of years, i'd conclude it wouldn't matter, they're still going to figure out a way to slaughter each other.

but i get that people like to believe USA is omnipotent, we're responsible for everything. well, everything bad that is. where ever it is it's because of US. i get that.

klinton 09-09-2015 01:28 PM

in that particular case - it would be better to keep Saddam, Gaddafi(France,Italy) and Assad...at least their countries were functioning properly, were not ruined, had everything that their citizens would need (healthcare, safety, roads, infrastructure, education and so on - for the price of freedom) and actually people were living normal life over there - for the price of their so called "democratic' freedoms.
now you have "democracy" in Libya and Iraq and you see and now know how "democracy" looks for Arabs. some people are just not good for that type of government. your government didnt know that? oh come on.
unfortunately this is how your foreign policy looks for the others since ~50 years - "grab what is valuable, leave mess and shit and go away to safe haven at the other side of Atlantic"
Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20575185)
heads-up arabs have been slaughtering arabs and others for long before America was even a country.

you need to blame America and point your finger at Americans for mcdonalds and i get that. you are free to do so.


klinton 09-09-2015 01:32 PM

people everywhere slaughter each other. they have been doing, are doing that and will do that.
heads up: 70 years ago ended the bloodiest war in human history and it was made by white people from Europe !
so why you talk about Arabs slaughtering each other, if in reality - invasion of Iraq led to how many death ? hundreds of thousands ? why do you care about Arabs slaughtering each other ?
I'm not saying that its ALL US fault. but many things are - the real question is: is it done by stupidity or planned ?
Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20575189)
you have no idea if that's right or wrong. based on arabs slaughterings over 1000s and 1000s of years, i'd conclude it wouldn't matter, they're still going to figure out a way to slaughter each other.

but i get that people like to believe USA is omnipotent, we're responsible for everything. well, everything bad that is. where ever it is it's because of US. i get that.


Bryan G 09-09-2015 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20575189)
you have no idea if that's right or wrong. based on arabs slaughterings over 1000s and 1000s of years, i'd conclude it wouldn't matter, they're still going to figure out a way to slaughter each other.

but i get that people like to believe USA is omnipotent, we're responsible for everything. well, everything bad that is. where ever it is it's because of US. i get that.

I'm not blaming the USA for everything. Without the U.S. The world would be fucked. However, taking out Saddam was 100% the wrong move and you know it.

femdomdestiny 09-09-2015 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20575193)
people everywhere slaughter each other. they have been doing, are doing that and will do that.
heads up: 70 years ago ended the bloodiest war in human history and it was made by white people from Europe !
so why you talk about Arabs slaughtering each other, if in reality - invasion of Iraq led to how many death ? hundreds of thousands ? why do you care about Arabs slaughtering each other ?
I'm not saying that its ALL US fault. but many things are - the real question is: is it done by stupidity or planned ?

As mentioned before, biggest world superpower is everything but stupid. Look the world image now: Russia under sanctions, Europe loosing money because of irrelevant issue like Ukraine (although germans figured out who is ruining their interests , Middle East in flames, US controlling oil, Europe filled with terrorists and muslims that won't integrate into society. Should I mention ruined plans for pipelines in Europe ,so pathetic and poor Balkan countries will be left without any benefit.

That is result of huge geopolitical power and planing.

dyna mo 09-09-2015 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 20575195)
I'm not blaming the USA for everything. Without the U.S. The world would be fucked. However, taking out Saddam was 100% the wrong move and you know it.

no, i haven't made the assumption that taking out saddam created isis and no sort of isis would have emerged otherwise.

RazorSharpe 09-09-2015 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20575091)
because your question is simple and not relevant.

Wow! Look at you talking about relevance! I'm so impressed!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20573115)
I'm not a Jew

So you say, "I'm not a Jew"

Other guy responds with:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20573146)
He was referring to Ben Shapiro...

You say this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20573605)
he's wrong there too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 20573843)
So you're saying Shapiro isn't Jewish?

As simple as you may think my question was, it was legitimate and didn't warrant you coming at me in full-on cunt mode. I'll head off to my day job now. Thanks for the lulz

dyna mo 09-09-2015 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20575191)
in that particular case - it would be better to keep Saddam, Gaddafi(France,Italy) and Assad...at least their countries were functioning properly, were not ruined, had everything that their citizens would need (healthcare, safety, roads, infrastructure, education and so on - for the price of freedom) and actually people were living normal life over there - for the price of their so called "democratic' freedoms.
now you have "democracy" in Libya and Iraq and you see and now know how "democracy" looks for Arabs. some people are just not good for that type of government. your government didnt know that? oh come on.
unfortunately this is how your foreign policy looks for the others since ~50 years - "grab what is valuable, leave mess and shit and go away to safe haven at the other side of Atlantic"

syria was functioning properly? with everything the citizens need. please. that's why citizens revolt eh, because their needs are being met.

so America is to blame, and according to you it's because arabs are too medieval for democracy.

dyna mo 09-09-2015 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20575193)
people everywhere slaughter each other. they have been doing, are doing that and will do that.
heads up: 70 years ago ended the bloodiest war in human history and it was made by white people from Europe !
so why you talk about Arabs slaughtering each other, if in reality - invasion of Iraq led to how many death ? hundreds of thousands ? why do you care about Arabs slaughtering each other ?
I'm not saying that its ALL US fault. but many things are - the real question is: is it done by stupidity or planned ?

wait, japanese are white people from europe? got it.

if you can't get that arabs slaughtering each other for 3000 years has nothing to do with a country on the other side of the planet that's 250 years old, then you won't get any explanation.

femdomdestiny 09-09-2015 04:22 PM

Libyan leader Muamar Gaddafi?s gloom prophecy made several months before his violent death.

"Now listen you, people of NATO. You?re bombing a wall which stood in the way of African migration to Europe, and in the way of Al-Qaeda terrorists. This wall was Libya. You?re breaking it. You?re idiots, and you will burn in Hell for thousands of migrants from Africa and for supporting Al-Qaeda. It will be so. I never lie. And I do not lie now," said Gaddafi in an open letter obtained by the Russian daily Zavtra and published in May 2011 several months before the Lybian leader was killed.

http://resources3.news.com.au/images...dafi-libya.jpg

Tasty1 09-09-2015 05:42 PM

At least the EU will start bombing Syria also. Maybe together with the Russians we can build a new wall :)

But a lot of regugees are not coming directly from Syria. A lot already live for years in Turkey. But it is better in the .EU. I think it is better to support those countries also. Or just put more pressure on the Arabic oil states, they will sent more money, as long as the refugees don't come to their country.

The Porn Nerd 09-09-2015 07:03 PM

Why would arabs want to live in white western countries?
I thought they hated the West and our values.
But now they want to move here and live amongst us?

k0nr4d 09-09-2015 10:42 PM

Free speak being already killed in Poland in the same of polital correctness.

Two protests planned. One anti immigration, one pro immigration. The major of Warsaw just canceled the anti immigration one's permit... The pro immigration one allowed to go on.

lezinterracial 09-09-2015 10:48 PM

I heard the destination is Sweden. Why Sweden?

klinton 09-09-2015 10:52 PM

once again - it is like arguing with deaf idiot.
you will faster get deaf and idiot just like him, than he will understand and get your points
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20575236)
wait, japanese are white people from europe? got it.

if you can't get that arabs slaughtering each other for 3000 years has nothing to do with a country on the other side of the planet that's 250 years old, then you won't get any explanation.


klinton 09-09-2015 10:54 PM

it is the same pathetic agenda like during the Ukraine Maidan and later conflicts there.
the funniest thing is: these guys who are so pro-maidan, pro-ukrainian and pro-refugee - they probably truly believe in it.
ideal brainwashed guys located in few media outlets in Warsaw :-)
Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20575537)
Free speak being already killed in Poland in the same of polital correctness.

Two protests planned. One anti immigration, one pro immigration. The major of Warsaw just canceled the anti immigration one's permit... The pro immigration one allowed to go on.


k0nr4d 09-10-2015 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20575550)
it is the same pathetic agenda like during the Ukraine Maidan and later conflicts there.
the funniest thing is: these guys who are so pro-maidan, pro-ukrainian and pro-refugee - they probably truly believe in it.
ideal brainwashed guys located in few media outlets in Warsaw :-)

I would gladly take 20 ukrainians for every 1 african... some shit went down between poland and ukraine almost 100 years ago, but better them then a culture that wants to live in the 7th century.

Scott McD 09-10-2015 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lezinterracial (Post 20575544)
I heard the destination is Sweden. Why Sweden?

Blonde bitches...

Matyko 09-10-2015 05:48 AM

recent photo of a hungarian refugee camp:

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2f&oe=5676916B







ok, its from BM :pimp

EonBlue 09-10-2015 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20575448)
Why would arabs want to live in white western countries?
I thought they hated the West and our values.
But now they want to move here and live amongst us?

They want to take over our lands by out-breeding us and out-populating us. They will just change things to the way they want them. And they are going to succeed.


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webgurl 09-10-2015 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20575768)
They want to take over our lands by out-breeding us and out-populating us. They will just change things to the way they want them. And they are going to succeed.


.

Sure if they don't close their friggen borders or cap it at a reasonable # per country and I'm not talking about 500k/annual (cough Germany) :Oh crap
Plus they are only half ass screening the refugees/migrants at this time <sigh> what a disaster this is going to be for Europe.

dyna mo 09-10-2015 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20575548)
once again - it is like arguing with deaf idiot.
you will faster get deaf and idiot just like him, than he will understand and get your points
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

heads-up dumbfuck, you're the one trying to get me to agree with you that ww2 trumps 3000 years of arabs killing each other, therefore America is responsible for Syria.

that's about as fucking brainiac as a 3rd grader could come up with.

regardless. i couldn't give 1 single fucking shit if you think that, you are free to blame America to wtfever degree your fucking pipsqueak brain dreams up.

12clicks 09-10-2015 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 20575232)
Wow! Look at you talking about relevance! I'm so impressed!



So you say, "I'm not a Jew"

Other guy responds with:



You say this:





As simple as you may think my question was, it was legitimate and didn't warrant you coming at me in full-on cunt mode. I'll head off to my day job now. Thanks for the lulz

perhaps amongst society's bottom it passes for legitimate. I just can't dumb myself down enough to agree.
glad you have a job with that low intellect. thanks for the lulz

Barry-xlovecam 09-10-2015 08:20 AM

Condescending Idiot ^^^ last click

Barry-xlovecam 09-10-2015 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20575827)
heads-up dumbfuck, you're the one trying to get me to agree with you that ww2 trumps 3000 years of arabs killing each other, therefore America is responsible for Syria.

that's about as fucking brainiac as a 3rd grader could come up with.

regardless. i couldn't give 1 single fucking shit if you think that, you are free to blame America to wtfever degree your fucking pipsqueak brain dreams up.

The USA just hammered the strong-men dictators that kept the tribes in line.
If ISIS prevails they will become an apparent target and 4 million will be evaporated </issue>

Maybe a few billion more -- will you be one of them?

dyna mo 09-10-2015 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20575895)
The USA just hammered the strong-men dictators that kept the tribes in line.
If ISIS prevails they will become an apparent target and 4 million will be evaporated </issue>

Maybe a few billion more -- will you be one of them?



what????

RazorSharpe 09-10-2015 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20575857)
perhaps amongst society's bottom it passes for legitimate. I just can't dumb myself down enough to agree.
glad you have a job with that low intellect. thanks for the lulz

This must be your roguish charm people keep telling me about. You're such a big softie!

Barry-xlovecam 09-10-2015 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20575905)
what????

there are two alternatives to end this issue

1. Nuke them
2. Pay for a wall and 600,000 soldiers to contain them.

Military action followed by "Nation Building" is total bullshit -- a politically correct name for neo-colonialism. This has failed time after time -- that's a proven fact. Where this is said to have succeeded is bullshit too -- the peoples in conflict are still in simmering conflict. Look at Europe for example. They are all screaming at each other like fighting children -- at least the Europeans are not shooting at each other as this is an external threat. Marshall Plan 'Nation Building" after WW2. But it took a WW2 with 20 million dead and 60 million displaced people and refugees.

Korea = failure
Vietnam = failure
Iraq = failure
Afghanistan = outcome unknown but it looks like a future failure

Puffing words and smoke will not accomplish jack-shit.

Like you say 3,000 years of conflict ... ( I think 2,700 years is closer but that is splitting hairs).


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