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nico-t 09-10-2015 09:07 AM

Well it is a fact that the iraq war turned that whole region into one big clusterfuck, a war the people got suckered into 'accepting' because of lies.

Saddam had control, but was a threat to the USD because he wanted to start trading oil in Euros instead of dollars. So he had to go, and his oil fields went to US corporations.

Khadaffi had control, but he was very close to creating a currency with other african nations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_gold_dinar#Libya
"coincidentally" all of a sudden the US thought it was time to get rid of him.

Then Syria:
The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : The Real Reason for US Syria Attack
"The US and allies ignited the anti-Assad uprising two years ago, using the underground Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and imported jihadis." - 2013

So ofcourse the refugee problems' roots are there. If the west would just stay out of there, keep doing business with Saddam, and let the radical muslims keep fucking up their own countries, we wouldn't have these waves of immigrants right now.

Reason all of this did happen?
MONEY, what else is new.

EonBlue 09-10-2015 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20575933)
Korea = failure
Vietnam = failure
Iraq = failure
Afghanistan = outcome unknown but it looks like a future failure

South Korea begs to differ.

Iraq and Afghanistan are a failure because of islamists and foreign agitators - ISIS and Al Qaeda are full of so many foreign fighters that they could almost be classified an invading army.

Islamism is the cause of 99.9% of all current problems in the Middle East.


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Barry-xlovecam 09-10-2015 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20575942)
South Korea begs to differ.

Iraq and Afghanistan are a failure because of islamists and foreign agitators - ISIS and Al Qaeda are full of so many foreign fighters that they could almost be classified an invading army.

Islamism is the cause of 99.9% of all current problems in the Middle East.


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Yeah right ...
Quote:

"full of so many foreign fighters that they could almost be classified an invading army."
Then load your guns ... got any?

dyna mo 09-10-2015 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20575933)
there are two alternatives to end this issue

1. Nuke them
2. Pay for a wall and 600,000 soldiers to contain them.

Military action followed by "Nation Building" is total bullshit -- a politically correct name for neo-colonialism. This has failed time after time -- that's a proven fact. Where this is said to have succeeded is bullshit too -- the peoples in conflict are still in simmering conflict. Look at Europe for example. They are all screaming at each other like fighting children -- at least the Europeans are not shooting at each other as this is an external threat. Marshall Plan 'Nation Building" after WW2. But it took a WW2 with 20 million dead and 60 million displaced people and refugees.

Korea = failure
Vietnam = failure
Iraq = failure
Afghanistan = outcome unknown but it looks like a future failure

Puffing words and smoke will not accomplish jack-shit.

Like you say 3,000 years of conflict ... ( I think 2,700 years is closer but that is splitting hairs).

this isn't going to go down in the middle east. it's going down in europe.

EonBlue 09-10-2015 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20576100)
Yeah right ...

What does the nut-bar leader of failed North Korea have to do with successful and prosperous South Korea? The UN fought to protect South Korea from North Korea which was being aided by China and Russia. The UN succeeded. Where is the failure in that?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20576100)
Then load your guns ... got any?

Why? Is ISIS ready to invade Canada?


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Barry-xlovecam 09-10-2015 12:24 PM

Yeah, the Americas are safe for now -- it's a long swim.

No, I meant all the gun-control Europeans that are sitting ducks for the "Muslim Invaders" that they cannot contend with. And I am spending 2 weeks in Paris the end of the month ...

Sly 09-10-2015 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20576139)
No, I meant all the gun-control Europeans that are sitting ducks for the "Muslim Invaders" that they cannot contend with. And I am spending 2 weeks in Paris the end of the month ...

You may want to see if these guys are available for your entourage: New hero identified; France honors Americans, Briton - CNN.com

EonBlue 09-10-2015 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20576139)
Yeah, the Americas are safe for now -- it's a long swim.

No, I meant all the gun-control Europeans that are sitting ducks for the "Muslim Invaders" that they cannot contend with. And I am spending 2 weeks in Paris the end of the month ...

Ya, the Americas are safe until a bunch of pantywaist politicians start letting them in by the boatload.

French response will be to wave the white flag and surrender - everyone will convert to Islam rather than resist the death of their culture. :(


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femdomdestiny 09-10-2015 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lezinterracial (Post 20575544)
I heard the destination is Sweden. Why Sweden?

Not sure. Probably because same climate as in Sirya

The Porn Nerd 09-10-2015 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgurl (Post 20575804)
Sure if they don't close their friggen borders or cap it at a reasonable # per country and I'm not talking about 500k/annual (cough Germany) :Oh crap
Plus they are only half ass screening the refugees/migrants at this time <sigh> what a disaster this is going to be for Europe.

Ditto.

This may be the last year where going to the EU shows is fun and not a nightmare.

takethebluepill 09-11-2015 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20575857)
perhaps amongst society's bottom it passes for legitimate. I just can't dumb myself down enough to agree.
glad you have a job with that low intellect. thanks for the lulz

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aka123 09-11-2015 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20575933)
there are two alternatives to end this issue

1. Nuke them
2. Pay for a wall and 600,000 soldiers to contain them.

During WWII there was a combination resembling these options: camps + gassing.

k0nr4d 09-11-2015 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20576139)
Yeah, the Americas are safe for now -- it's a long swim.

No, I meant all the gun-control Europeans that are sitting ducks for the "Muslim Invaders" that they cannot contend with. And I am spending 2 weeks in Paris the end of the month ...

2 weeks in paris will completely change your outlook on this. You will see it's an invasion and nothing less...

klinton 09-11-2015 01:37 AM

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Paul Markham 09-11-2015 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 20575187)
True. However, had Bush just fucked off and left Saddam be we would not have IS today now would we?

Of course it would be better. The despots are the only people who can strike enough fear and strike enough, to keep a semblance of order. Without them the Armies become fragmented, the internal tribal hostilities worsen and more frightening is countries like Iran have no one to fear.

This is a region split by religious ideologies, sub sects of religions, powerful tribes and men looking for power. Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc. Would be far richer if they dropped the things that separate them and sold oil and produce to the West. With a better system of trickle down.

Poverty breeds revolution, without Islam they would be Communists.

Paul Markham 09-11-2015 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20575193)
people everywhere slaughter each other. they have been doing, are doing that and will do that.
heads up: 70 years ago ended the bloodiest war in human history and it was made by white people from Europe !
so why you talk about Arabs slaughtering each other, if in reality - invasion of Iraq led to how many death ? hundreds of thousands ? why do you care about Arabs slaughtering each other ?
I'm not saying that its ALL US fault. but many things are - the real question is: is it done by stupidity or planned ?

Hitler harnessed the power of fear and hate. To manipulate the poor to support him and the rich to finance him. See the similarities?

Paul Markham 09-11-2015 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20575933)
Korea = failure
Vietnam = failure
Iraq = failure
Afghanistan = outcome unknown but it looks like a future failure

Puffing words and smoke will not accomplish jack-shit.

Like you say 3,000 years of conflict ... ( I think 2,700 years is closer but that is splitting hairs).

N. America = Huge success.
B. Empire = Huge success.
And there has been lots of other huge successes with colonisation.

The problems today are the countries prepared to fund "freedom fighters" or "terrorists". The media and the liberal attitudes of the people back home.

Wars in the Middle East go back to the first Empires, so over 4,000 years ago. No one builds an Empire by being nice. So the only thing limiting big wars, are population numbers.

Struggle4Bucks 09-11-2015 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20575095)
No one asked you.
I certainly don't ask the unintelligent what they think.

You proved to be stupid as i pointed out.... Now show me your iq score... and let's compare it to mine.... you average idiot...

Struggle4Bucks 09-11-2015 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadudu (Post 20575007)
In the last 7 years, in the Netherlands almost everybody loses at least 42% - 52% of their income to taxes .

Sorry, but that's just bullshit...

aka123 09-11-2015 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20576139)
Yeah, the Americas are safe for now -- it's a long swim.

No, I meant all the gun-control Europeans that are sitting ducks for the "Muslim Invaders" that they cannot contend with. And I am spending 2 weeks in Paris the end of the month ...

Okay, two things: European countries have armies. Armies are the ones those deal with big conflicts, not some wannabe cowboys, not even in US.

Secondly, European civilians have guns, just not everybody.

Scott McD 09-11-2015 06:19 AM

500 immigrants !!

(per second)

EonBlue 09-11-2015 06:33 AM

A train load of cultural enrichment on it's way to Germany:



This is the world that progressives are building.


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k0nr4d 09-11-2015 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20576745)
A train load of cultural enrichment on it's way to Germany:



This is the world that progressives are building.


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I think monday we find out how many cultural enrichers our traitorous premier has agreed to accept. Her party has lost most of it's support in the last months and with the elections in October will be throw out.

12clicks 09-11-2015 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20576745)
A train load of cultural enrichment on it's way to Germany:



This is the world that progressives are building.


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those trains are giant Trojan horses. God help Europe.

j3rkules 09-11-2015 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20576745)
A train load of cultural enrichment on it's way to Germany:



This is the world that progressives are building.


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It is only matter of the time when these fuckers will blow themselves up.

Bryan G 09-11-2015 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20576745)
A train load of cultural enrichment on it's way to Germany:



This is the world that progressives are building.


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:Oh crap :Oh crap

j3rkules 09-11-2015 06:51 AM

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Oh Allah make their wives life hard
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Oh Allah help our weakened brothers in Palestine
Allah Akbar
Their is no god but Allah
The Zionists are the enemy of Allah
There is no god but Allah
The martyrs are beloved by Allah

Barry-xlovecam 09-11-2015 08:04 AM

British Empire = success :1orglaugh

1. The UK has many dominion immigrants because of the British Empire (Canada also). Why? They are the richest countries in the Dominion.
2. A list of the problems currently in the Middle East date back the the WW1 British and French mandates of the armistice and the Treaty of Lausanne you imperialists (haha) split up the borders with no regard to the religious and tribal land rights of the inhabitants.

Much of the conflict we see today is the result of European colonialism and imperialist ambitions. That said, the primarily USA led invasions in the past 14 years fucked things up worse -- with oil resource security being the true core of the invasions. The price of Gasoline was as low as $2.12 /US gallon (3.8 Liters) yesterday.

As to North America's success: North America from the Native peoples (North American Indians) perspective or the enslaved Africans was a big time fail. However, the success you see in North America what built by waves of immigration who worked for their success, and the success of their newly adopted countries success, and still do to this day.

Most immigrants come to the USA to work and better themselves. On welfare an immigrant family might get $2,000 a month in social services -- that is just a poverty line existence -- the USA poverty line is $20,090 for a family of 3.

PluginForage 09-11-2015 08:22 AM

It is a bad situation all the way around with no easy answers. One thing you can be sure of is that ISIS us using this mass migration to get their form of evil in to Europe and most likely the US in disguise. That is just the fact of life.

12clicks 09-11-2015 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20576828)
British Empire = success :1orglaugh

1. The UK has many dominion immigrants because of the British Empire (Canada also). Why? They are the richest countries in the Dominion.
2. A list of the problems currently in the Middle East date back the the WW1 British and French mandates of the armistice and the Treaty of Lausanne you imperialists (haha) split up the borders with no regard to the religious and tribal land rights of the inhabitants.

Much of the conflict we see today is the result of European colonialism and imperialist ambitions. That said, the primarily USA led invasions in the past 14 years fucked things up worse -- with oil resource security being the true core of the invasions. The price of Gasoline was as low as $2.12 /US gallon (3.8 Liters) yesterday.

As to North America's success: North America from the Native peoples (North American Indians) perspective or the enslaved Africans was a big time fail. However, the success you see in North America what built by waves of immigration who worked for their success, and the success of their newly adopted countries success, and still do to this day.

Most immigrants come to the USA to work and better themselves. On welfare an immigrant family might get $2,000 a month in social services -- that is just a poverty line existence -- the USA poverty line is $20,090 for a family of 3.

so?
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femdomdestiny 09-11-2015 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20576761)
It is only matter of the time when these fuckers will blow themselves up.

Or start shooting around.

Google Expert 09-11-2015 12:32 PM

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Paul Markham 09-11-2015 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20576706)
Sorry, but that's just bullshit...

Look at tax revenues as part of GDP and the different ways you pay taxes. Of course it depends on one's income level.

Paul Markham 09-11-2015 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20576828)
British Empire = success

Yes it lasted the longest and the revenue is still in evidence today.


Quote:

2. A list of the problems currently in the Middle East date back the the WW1 British and French mandates of the armistice and the Treaty of Lausanne you imperialists (haha) split up the borders with no regard to the religious and tribal land rights of the inhabitants.
Agreed, because many of these people were incapable of splitting themselves up peacefully. Look at the Independence of India and how they handled the splitting of Pakistan, both of them.

Even after they had their chance to throw out an evil dictator, it only leaves a power vacuum for other evil man to fill.

Do you see civil wars in Canada and Australia?

Agreed, because many of these people were incapable of splitting themselves up peacefully. Do you see civil wars in Canada and Australia?

Quote:

As to North America's success: North America from the Native peoples (North American Indians) perspective or the enslaved Africans was a big time fail. However, the success you see in North America what built by waves of immigration who worked for their success, and the success of their newly adopted countries success, and still do to this day.
The land was stolen from the people who had it, and even today too little is done to address that.

Quote:

Most immigrants come to the USA to work and better themselves. On welfare an immigrant family might get $2,000 a month in social services -- that is just a poverty line existence -- the USA poverty line is $20,090 for a family of 3.
Is the US standard living and average salary increasing as fast as the economy?

The reason for this is the modern world is no longer reliant on manual labour. So the unskilled deprive a US unskilled citizen of a job. And keep wages down. This is beside the ease of outsourcing to countries where labour is $2,000 a month or less.

oppoten 09-11-2015 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20577230)
Yes it lasted the longest and the revenue is still in evidence today.

:thumbsup

klinton 09-11-2015 03:22 PM


Quote:

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib (Post 20577092)


Barry-xlovecam 09-11-2015 03:34 PM

My income has risen a lot faster than the economy but most wages in the USA have become stagnant. That explains all the ass-kissing of the progressive candidates. Property values here have only recovered 70%-85% but in other places 90% to 110%.

Keep your illusions of "Empire" in your imagination. I was in London last year I saw what is going on with my own eyes. If you ask me the whole world is on a spiral to the lowest common denominator everywhere.

You cannot build a wall to keep that out because you cannot build walls with gun towers -- someone will always be shooting back.

Struggle4Bucks 09-11-2015 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20577216)
Look at tax revenues as part of GDP and the different ways you pay taxes. Of course it depends on one's income level.

huh??? i must of had quotes and replies mixed up... :helpme:error

yes of course... i know what our tax rates are:1orglaugh
we are getting taxed the fuck out...

It has nothing to do with the last 7 years tho... it has "always" been like that.... 42%-52% is nothing new...

oppoten 09-11-2015 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20577272)
If you ask me the whole world is on a spiral to the lowest common denominator everywhere.

we know

Quote:

You cannot build a wall to keep that out
but it's not like you don't try

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...wall-i-007.jpg

JFK 09-11-2015 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20576757)
those trains are giant Trojan horses. God help Europe.

agreed:2 cents:


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