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klinton 09-05-2015 12:50 PM

that's the Italian way of doing things actually and true Italian spirit...somebody elected him - and it was his nation
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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20571382)
(remember guys like Berlusconi have only one plan and that is to enjoy as much as possible and fuck around...and he was a legitimate representative of Italy for many years )


Sly 09-05-2015 12:53 PM

Interesting: Putin confirms Russian military involvement in Syria's civil war - Business Insider

klinton 09-05-2015 12:54 PM

really ? and how Snowden could steal all NSA secrets ?
and there are many examples of how US foreign policies are turning against them..in just 3,5 or 10 years...do you think that it is all planed/ staged ? i dont think so...clueless people are everywhere. its chaos man, very often it's just chaos :)

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20571384)
US is most organized world power that history ever saw. While other nations are battling for basic things and between neighbours , US is controlling half countries in the world. Some directly, some through political control. That is no task for stupid people, as I am concerned.


klinton 09-05-2015 12:55 PM

everybody knew that actually since 2011. or better yet - since 70s in XX century
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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20571389)


femdomdestiny 09-05-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20571390)
really ? and how Snowden could steal all NSA secrets ?
and there are many examples of how US foreign policies are turning against them..in just 3,5 or 10 years...do you think that it is all planed/ staged ? i dont think so...clueless people are everywhere. its chaos man, very often it's just chaos :)

It is not perfect system, of course there are always mistakes, everywhere. System that is profiting on other people suffering (that is always happening far away) is smart enough.

Mutt 09-05-2015 01:36 PM

Russia's getting dragged into this now, it would be a very positive move for the US and Russia to join together against ISIS. It's time for the US to finally be done with Saudi Arabia, that's the origin of all this lunacy, from Al Qaeda to ISIS - Wahhabism, the most fucked up version of Islam.

ISIS attacked Russian military barracks - Business Insider

Scott McD 09-05-2015 02:56 PM

Who remembers this friendly bunch ??



Depressing...

Joshua G 09-05-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20570966)
I don't suppose you think that American military interventions, especially in Iraq neighboring Syria had anything to do with the crisis?

not really, no. at some point in time one must stop blaming the war in iraq for things that happen in 2011 & later. The USA left, & everything thats happened since is on arab time. the primary cause of the refugees is the fall of assad. ISIL was a couple hundred dead enders when american troops left Iraq. What it turned into happened on syrian soil & is on assad not USA. & ISIL's expansion into Iraq is on malaki not on obama, unless you want to argue obama shoulda kept us there? nope. ISIL happened after USA left.

:2 cents:

Sly 09-05-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20571452)
Who remembers this friendly bunch ??



Depressing...

It is somewhat common in the United States, especially in the Southwest, to see Mexican flags. You do not see parades of Mexican, legal or illegal, chanting "death to the United States." That is just surreal.

Struggle4Bucks 09-05-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20571303)
And if you think it is impossible to have organized muslim military in Europe, small reminder how that looked like in Bosnia back in the 90's and how cute they are. Most of them left there and are ready to act.


Relax...

If this:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/95251cfc...vzrko1_540.jpg

Turns into this:

https://41.media.tumblr.com/224a8d3b...vzrko1_540.jpg

Then it will be :thumbsup

But if it turns out to be more (too much) of this:



Then i'm sure it will turn out like this:

https://36.media.tumblr.com/0d4d431d...vzrko1_500.jpg

Humanity is capable of the most cruel things... Civilization is just a fucking thin layer of chromium... I don't expect too much of it...

I think the world will live to see another case of West-European gründlichkeit....

RazorSharpe 09-05-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571214)
more of your blame it on America(ns) attitude.



it is funny how you claim you are capable of an adult debate yet have continued to make personal remarks about me while exclaiming i'm the one doing so, yet i've maintained respectful attitude towards you and provided links supporting my comments while you've yet to do so, you've just pointed out that you're right because you're an Arab and claim you visited there.

it's also funny how it's convenient for you to blame America(ns) for the current Arabs slaughtering Arabs event but then spin around and claim it's because Arabs have been slaughtering Arabs for 1000s and 1000s of years.

either way, you are free to blame your life and Arabs slaughtering each other on me/America, no biggie. i'll turn on my tele and watch the slaughter from the comfort of my easy chair.

There's comes a time, even in what one initially perceives as a genuine adult discussion, that one must consider that the other party is no longer worth the hassle. You have not been respectful at all. From your second reply to me where you stated you knew i wasn't having a dig at Americans to then continuously and insidiously suggesting, in every subsequent message, that I was blaming America was nothing short of disingenuous.

dyna mo 09-05-2015 03:57 PM

I'm very ingenous when I tell you you are free to blame America. As you did in your operation freedom post, you know the one, where you blame violence in Syria on operation freedom in iraq and USA fancy words like democracy.
Although you did later flipflop on that and claimed the slaughter in syria is simply the continuation of Arab on Arab slaughter that's been happening for thousand and thousands of years.

Either way, you are free to blame America.

RazorSharpe 09-05-2015 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571484)
I'm very ingenous when I tell you you are free to blame America. As you did in your operation freedom post, you know the one, where you blame violence in Syria on operation freedom in iraq and USA fancy words like democracy.
Although you did later flipflop on that and claimed the slaughter in syria is simply the continuation of Arab on Arab slaughter that's been happening for thousand and thousands of years.

Either way, you are free to blame America.

Don't try and twist my words armchair Rambo. You started using fancy words like catalyst ... so yes, Arabs were always at war but the "interventions" in the Arab region were the "catalysts". You can sit in your home all day and deny simple facts, I don't really care.

You like posting links in newspapers and calling them historians so here's on for you:
The real reason the Syrian refugees keep coming*to Europe from the Middle East | Daily Mail Online

You suggested that I was blaming america because I used the words Operation Freedom and democracy. Here's news for you:
1. America wasn't the only country involved in that conflict
2. Democracy isn't just a luxury afforded in America so just because I use the word doesn't mean I am speaking about America
3. I directly quoted a European when I said that so I was speaking about Europe's involvement

If you want to make believe that I was blaming Americans, then by all means be my guest.

RazorSharpe 09-05-2015 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571484)
Although you did later flipflop on that and claimed the slaughter in syria is simply the continuation of Arab on Arab slaughter that's been happening for thousand and thousands of years.

I did no such thing but you just continue reading things in a manner that suits your agenda.

dyna mo 09-05-2015 04:53 PM

There ya go with the name calling again. It's hard to take you seriously about your claims that I'm not being respectful all while you call me names. It's not unlike when you blamed the American operation freedom for Syrian slaughter then changed to exclaim Syrian slaughter is nothing more than a continuation of Arab on Arab killing. And just like your "there comes a time...when it's not worth the hassle..." speech yet you flipflopped on that and now I'm worth the hassle again.

Either way, you are free to blame America.

dyna mo 09-05-2015 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 20571530)
I did no such thing but you just continue reading things in a manner that suits your agenda.



Either way, you are free to blame Americans, just like you just did. No biggie.

dyna mo 09-05-2015 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 20571520)
2. Democracy isn't just a luxury afforded in America so just because I use the word doesn't mean I am speaking about America

Democracy is not a luxury, period. Anywhere. Personal freedom|democracy is a right.

Either way, you have personal freedom here to blame America.

RazorSharpe 09-05-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571532)
There ya go with the name calling again. It's hard to take you seriously about your claims that I'm not being respectful all while you call me names. It's not unlike when you blamed the American operation freedom for Syrian slaughter then changed to exclaim Syrian slaughter is nothing more than a continuation of Arab on Arab killing. And just like your "there comes a time...when it's not worth the hassle..." speech yet you flipflopped on that and now I'm worth the hassle again.

Either way, you are free to blame America.

what? you didn't appreciate "armchair rambo" after you dropped this little gem:

"i'll turn on my tele and watch the slaughter from the comfort of my easy chair."

Kinda like you flip flopping between:

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20570802)
i never said you were bashing, or taking a dig at Americans, settle down.

And what you're doing now? Nah, I didn't think so .... you flip flopping is true, mine is just a figment of your imagination.

RazorSharpe 09-05-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571539)
Democracy is not a luxury, period. Anywhere. Personal freedom|democracy is a right.

Either way, you have personal freedom here to blame America.

If you think anyone mentioning democracy is automatically talking about America because no other country in the land can claim Democracy then it's a luxury. I'm not the one who went ape shit and started claiming someone was bashing America just because they used the word Democracy ...

dyna mo 09-05-2015 05:11 PM

In your world you owe me an apology for your being completely confused about my posts.

RazorSharpe 09-05-2015 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571562)
In your world you owe me an apology for your being completely confused about my posts.

I'm not confused at all. I've met people like you many times in my lifetime. They think if they repeat the same lines over and over again it automatically becomes true. I'm not holding that against you though - you are what you are. Thanks for playing and have a good night.

wehateporn 09-05-2015 05:15 PM


dyna mo 09-05-2015 05:16 PM

It doesn't matter if I state it once or a million times- you are free to blame America. You're free to flipflop and you are free to call me names while you exclaim I'm going ape shit and being disrespectful.

Barry-xlovecam 09-05-2015 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 20571156)
[] ...
Every time IS start attacking new areas, more people will come and destabilize Europe in many ways. A lot of people are already angry about the help for Greece while in their own countries things aren't as well as it was either.

I have the feeling we will found out soon what happens, i expect more terror attacks in Europe to destabilize Europe.

Maybe Europeans need to be like the USA -- start to carry their guns ...

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20571382)
They lean on money, that will help their children go to Australia or USA, ...

No fucking way, we are going to build immigrant frying machines at the airports. The USA wants no more socialist euro-scum [/rolls eyes] if you have a few million Euro with you you can buy a get out of jail card. We also take VISA Black Card installments. No speekey Engerleesh? Then fuck off.

And in the end, in spite of my sarcasm; None of us can offer a realistic solution.

I have to conclude that the only reasonable act is to try to turn back this immigrant flood and return them ''home (to the region)" to straighten their own problem out -- we have no place for these people. The consequences of US, NATO, Russian, Arab and Iranian interference in the region is only in the respective interfering countries' interests. These people that are trying to escape just want that -- to get the fuck out of their bad situation.

When you hate you just get your own hate mirrored back -- we are all victims of someone.

dyna mo 09-05-2015 06:02 PM

How many isis terrorists have infiltrated the refugee wave into the west? Hijrah.

Hijrah is the Islamic doctrine of migration, which is a form of stealth jihad.

Barry-xlovecam 09-05-2015 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20571602)
How many isis terrorists have infiltrated the refugee wave into the west? Hijrah.

Hijrah is the Islamic doctrine of migration, which is a form of stealth jihad.

Then lock and load ... Europe has to make some hard choices.

Ideally, the Middle East's inhabitants should seek some common ground and stop killing each other. With a 3,000 year* (about) history of regional warfare this may never happen.

There may be a few stealthy ISIS or other Muslim extremist terrorists mixed in. So, damn them all to hell then? That is the sure way for ISIS to get new recruits -- that thinking is self defeating. Vet them all out, if necessary in refugee camps when they reach land. All of Europe is affected and all of Europe should react in unity and address this problem together. Instead, all the individual EU nation-states bicker and play the pass-the-trash immigrants to your neighbor game.

That is no solution ...

dyna mo 09-05-2015 06:40 PM

Yeah a few isis guys is ok.

And They can't vet them out Barry, they can't ask questions related to religion and such without being labeled an islamaphobe.

Barry-xlovecam 09-05-2015 07:24 PM

Then if they don't roll over they all go back on the next return ship.

If that is the case then they all go back -- word gets out; if you don't roll over you go back ... ... maybe they won't leave?

We (NATO?) could just cut off the Middle East until they sued for peace. No oil from the region but none, or few, immigrants. Who do you think would fold first?

DraX 09-05-2015 10:03 PM

YES it's a fucking tragedy what's going on in the middle east and all immigrants dying on their way to europe but c'mon this so called solution of weak european politican leadership is just as idiotic as me shooting myself in the foot.

Here's a temporary solution that some of you might have previously heard about.

Close the fucking border to middle east and africa. Set up refugee camps to house all immigrants. Yes it will take some management and partnership with a few countries in that area. European countries throw money in a pool so that the immigrants can have a "decent" life at the camps and install troops to protect them from islamic state etc. Then when things settle down there whenever that happens (first and foremost get rid of Islamic state) they can build up their own countries.

This is a complex situation but this solution to give asylum to those that can PAY ?4000-?8000 to go from northern africa to southern europe by paying organized smugglers is INSANE A majority of these so called immigrants don't give a fuck about greece, hungary, italy, spain etc, no they want to northern europe where they can be feed generously by the different states (economic immigrants). This shit don't go hand in hand with some of the images of people in the direct conflict area in africa/middle east.

This will have a major impact on the future of europe. If David Cameron can't play the british people, they will leave the EU as it looks now. If they do but I think the british politicians will do anything to avoid that, it may set in motion the fall of the EU as we know it.

PS: Angela Merkel you are a fucking dumb cow!

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20569486)
The liberals are positively wetting themselves over this photo, its a dream cum true for them - the media are now in full-on guilt mode trying to push through a total breakdown of any sort of border.

Sad as it may sound but i'm really hoping that something happens tomorrow to push this story off the front pages otherwise the left could guilt-trip their way into pushing through policies that will have dire consequences for the British people.

I could not have said it much different.

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20569496)
Negative take. Fucking libtards letting ILLEGAL economic migrants in. Anyone who thinks positive about that is a traitor and a parasite of the continent.

There's way too much guilt feelings around liberals and left wings and way too little sane or sensible thinking.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20569547)
I wonder what impact the Internet has had on this.... Growing up as a kid in the 1980s I had no idea what life was really like in other countries. We heard stories and saw a handful of pictures, but that was it.

Now with the Internet they see how "richer" countries live and they say "I want that".

I'm sure it had an impact. Why do everyone in this case want to specifically to germany or sweden or UK. Obviously they heard from friends / family / neighbours how generously they will be welcomed with free healthcare, dental care, 1 paycheck every month, extra pay checks for having kids etc.

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20569558)
dude. isaac newton invented gravity in 1492. if you dont possess knowledge, thats on you. besides immigration is a fact of civilization. people been moving for a better place since the cave man.

:error:)

Did they also expect a monthly pay check from doing nothing back then?

Yes, those pictures are horrible so now you tell me what is wrong with this vid ?

LiveLeak.com - Immigrants throw away the food and the water what they get

What do you think when you watch the video?

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20569635)
I hope for Germany's sake they know what they are doing because saying they will accept 800,000 + just now, housing, jobs, benefits, and then breeding in the years to come might just be a few major problems they aren't considering right now... :2 cents:

Yes it will have some major impact down the line, first real consequences will be seen in a few months up to a year from now. Some already today unfortunately. Girls being raped by immigrants some people murdered, just isolated cases of course but there will be more. Overall crime will go up, health quality will go down, more conflicts, a drainage of the welfare system resulting in less money for everyone who needs it.

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20570093)
i fail to see your point. they were in Turkey ... they were safe. so what if the conditions are unsatisfactory. they were safe. the father wanted more, he got greedy and paid for it with the lives of his family. That is not our fault.
The UK is at the point where one in ten are not British, British people in London are an ethnic minority are they are in at least a dozen other towns/cities .. and this has happened in the space of less than one generation.
This is no longer about being compassionate but about the cultural genocide that is happening in the UK at the moment.

Pretty much how I see it.

DraX 09-05-2015 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20570165)
I think these people shouldn't be let in, even more so the economic migrants. They are now freely roaming around europe, with no one checking them at all, with absolutely no documents. They have more rights then i do - I can't drive legally into another country without my ID. These people could be ISIS members, they could be carrying all sorts of african diseases, etc. We really, really do not need this shit - and i'm very happy that Poland is only accepting so few of them.

I've seen videos of a migrant throwing his wife and small child on the ground with police all around them then pretending that police are beating him or did it. It was on BBC, except they didn't show the part of him throwing himself on the ground along with his wife.

I've seen videos of black guys from Ghana (which is not at war, nor especially poor) complaining about the conditions of the refugee camp. They were evidently expecting a free castle each and instead got tents. Seriously, all these guys living there can't fucking fix a slightly leaking tent? They are going to be great additions to the german "work force"...

The media spins it like it's all starving women and children, when in fact in every single video I have seen it's like 90% young men. How many children do you see here?


The fact they all want to go to germany or sweden and do not accept hungary, austria, etc suggests that they are really after the social and not escaping war. I'm sure SOME are, but come on...

Schengen zone should be completely shut down until this blows over.

Look at all these children here too...

I agree schengen should be scrapped altogether it's a crap contract.

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20570173)
no knucklehead. the answer is integration, & putting sweethart memories of a once pure local population to rest. the people who are leaving syria et al are the smart ones. they are facing hostile situation, but are braving it for survival. those are the types of people i want coming to my country. i would take a syrian refugee with big tits over a lot of our local lollygagging youths any day of the week.

sending them back, camps, trains, never worked, never will. most will either go back when syria get it together, or they will become european muslims, just like the USA is full of latinos & its not going to be reversed no matter how much a spoiled billionaire wants it otherwise.

:2 cents:

There is no intregration in germany or sweden not of a decent quality anyway. After being registered and living at other asylum camps some months they want to the cities where "others of their kind" lives. what do you think goes on there ? Unemployment, crime, gangs, hate vs the western lifestyle, some get radicalized. Maybe cause they didn't get a bmw within 6 months of arrival, I don't know.

Which syrian refugee would you take? Can you see the difference between a good or bad one or you don't care?

How about some from eritrea?

Swedes Are Reacting to the IKEA Murders, And They Aren't Happy

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Originally Posted by Tom.K (Post 20570194)
yes, that's the one :)

http://s8.postimg.org/jd493rgqd/kolumbo.jpg

I see many people here, and on other places, asking why those refugees don't stay in Turkey as they are safe there. Well, would anybody normal wanted to stay in some shitty camp knowing he/she will probably be there for rest of the life with possibility to die soon from some disease or killed by someone? Or try to get normal life somewhere else?

https://www.google.cz/search?q=syria...kDGgodYYE MQw

And of course everyone wants to go to Germany or Sweden. Who, the fuck, would like to stay in Hungary, Serbia, Bulgaria or ask asylum in Croatia or Poland? Knowing that they will get same or even worse treatment as in Turkey and no possibility to make some life anytime in the future. Eventually offered ham sandwich with beer... Isn't that in human nature that man will look for better life and opportunity? Their country is dead, their property destroyed, no life there anymore. And people from other countries, from Africa, between choosing to die from starvation or killed by some militia, and trying to get some normal life in some other place, isn't choice obvious? Especially for some young man who have 20 yrs? How much you have to be desperate to take a chance in crappy boat to get from African sun to shitty Swedish weather? Very much, but you will maybe get opportunity to send your mother few hundred bucks in year if you are lucky.

Maybe I don't understand some things and can't say much, but letting those people die on sea or in trucks, can only tell me that this "civilization" obviously deserve to finish like Rome finished once. It's not western way of life, it's not religion, it's just bastardship.

European immigration politics have resulted in immigrants paying filthy and greedy smugglers in a hope to get to germany or sweden or UK with their generous handouts. The smugglers don't care what happens. Solution: close the borders and help them in refugee camps, throw money at them, it will still be WAY cheaper than having a unintegrated immigrants living in germany with all the costs for that.

I wonder how many people in a refugee camp can be helped for the same cost to feed a family in germany 2 parents 3 kids. It adds up to a lot.

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20570215)
i'll give you this: the UK is a good example how political correctness is going the wrong way, when a supermarket in CZ announced selling halal food the shitstorm was so huge that they bowed down and removed it again

and once again - i wrote already that i neither welcome people that only ask for asylum for economical reasons (if they are well educated there are other ways to come here) and i would also prefer if the Syria situation was dealt with locally

but i am trying to understand the motivation of those people that try to escape for a better life and make their way despite of the danger - obviously the desperation is huge.

and i swear i will never be that asshole that celebrates dead children like many others do now

Yes I have seen a few comment about the dead kid and celebrating. Disgusting and sick I must say. Emotionally people that probably are so feed up with the immigration they cant think straight any more and I'm sure there's a handful of commenters that can't think at all and never could.

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20570278)
that is simply not true - that's the problem cause people believe that

but still Germany is better to them than most other countries, yes

x5-6 times ?150. I think he is not much off. But if you really want to know ill get some exact figures. Depends on how big family and how many kids. Also should add many get free healthcare and free dental care, it adds up. In the end it will result in worse quality for the overall population who can't afford private treatment.

DraX 09-05-2015 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20570604)
Can't read all that shit above. Situation is clear and simple. Barbaric and religious fanatics are getting inside and occupying europe without single shot fired. Those who don't have experience with muslim population shouldn't give their opinion. What is shown on TV is not even close to what Is hapenning every fucking day . Europe is islamized and they will fuck you up when there are enough of them. I can't wait to see faces of people like MaDalton when they come in his village and tell him that beer is forbidden and that he can choose will they cut his head off or he will accept Islam.

War is there for many years and suddenly they rush in Europe? Bullshit. We are talking about tons and tons of military capable people (religious fanatics).

yesterday I ve talked to cab driver. He said (in short, I don't have time to write everything now) that he took tons of money in previous period with people well organized which means next: they come like dirty and poor refugees. They stop him and tell him to drive to bank. Once they are out of bank, they give him from 50 up to 100 bucks to help them buy clothing in shopping malls. Next station is hotel where they pay more to cab driver who will come in the morning to take them. In the morning transformation is incredible, new clothes, sunglasses, perfume ....and next station is straight to the border to go further.

Ask anyone who is working inside security (military,police) how dangerous thisshit is and how much damage they can do from the inside (remember Charlie Hebdo?)

There are tons of them with money and not real refugees. Why they don't go to muslim countries but they choose Europe?

In the long run if this goes on without interruption. I'm not expecting less anyway. So no surprise here.

Just wish I could flee somewhere, away from europe.

Australia and canada is obviously high up on the list.

Any good south american countries you would consider ?

Any other suggestions ?

Tasty1 09-05-2015 10:40 PM

Nobody celebrates dead children. It is more that they think in europe that people make 2 choices, or welcome the refugees, or see them dead. But people that are against immigration also don't like to see the death wash ashore and people that realy needs help going to die. But the people that are against immigration are willing to help also, but in another way, not by giving everybody asylum but help them local and support countries that do help. But that is the right/left poltitics in Europe. If you are not willing tio give all people asylum you are the bad guy that also don't care people are drowning. But everybody hates to see people drowning. But one group says, take them in and sent ships, while the other group says, help them there and don't allow them to make the dangerous route with smugglers on their ships and help them there.

But in europe now people see now you must have both options, help them there and in Europe cause the problem is getting to big. Ps only 25% of the refugees is realy a refugee. Most of them are from other countries to get into Europe saying they are from syria and will sent back soon. At least, if the system works cause that 75% that isn't from Syria start legal actions (free for them) and start proceeding for years and in the end can get into europe cause they are already so long time in europe.. having children there etcetra.... Proceeding cost a lot of time and money for that countries.

So in the end more and more people tend to give refugees the finger.

k0nr4d 09-06-2015 12:08 AM

More cultural enrichment:
Refugees allowed into Italy after threat to drown babies | Daily Mail Online

Makes you wonder what they would be willing to do with OUR children.

We're nearing the end of this years wave anyways, around november... the Mediterranean gets alot choppier in the fall/winter and alot of those migrants have to pass through mountains on the land route. There will be 5x more next year though.

Matyko 09-06-2015 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 20571736)
Yes, those pictures are horrible so now you tell me what is wrong with this vid ?

LiveLeak.com - Immigrants throw away the food and the water what they get

What do you think when you watch the video?


By posting this video as a 'proof' that these people are scum, you prove that you know 5% of the story what happened to these ppl in Hungary. They have a reason to act like this, believe me. So posting this video along with the other one w guy going crazy and taking the baby+lady down next to the train: BORING. :2 cents:


If you want to scare me you should post videos like this, because - no matter how hippie I am - this scares me for real:

k0nr4d 09-06-2015 01:15 AM

More women and children protesting in Hungary:

j3rkules 09-06-2015 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20571790)
More women and children protesting in Hungary:

They are rioting because they have no goats to fuck.

j3rkules 09-06-2015 05:50 AM

To be more exact, the West, Gulf monarchies and Turkey have not exacerbated the Syrian conflict, they have rather fomented it from the beginning by supporting the Wahhabi terrorists of ISIS.
Now unexpected fall-outs and backlashes of this politics of chaos have become a problem for themselves.
Recent developments:
- the chief of the Wahhabi terrorists and ISIS (the King of Saudi Arabia) is currently in the White House. It seems that they are talking about how to end the Syrian chaos,
- US is hinting at probable ground intervention against ISIS in Syria,
- UK and France are gesticulating about increasing their engagement,
- rumors of Russian direct military intervention in Syria,
Hope that they will come to the conclusion that this madness should stop quickly otherwise the whole region of the Middle East including Israel will be burnt in its fire.

j3rkules 09-06-2015 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20571778)
More cultural enrichment:
Refugees allowed into Italy after threat to drown babies | Daily Mail Online

Makes you wonder what they would be willing to do with OUR children.

We're nearing the end of this years wave anyways, around november... the Mediterranean gets alot choppier in the fall/winter and alot of those migrants have to pass through mountains on the land route. There will be 5x more next year though.

These migrants will first ask for a place to say. Within 2 years there will be a lot of applications to the local authorities seeking permission to build mosques. After 5 years they will cry an say that they are victims and they are not getting the right to practice their religion. They will blame the west and say that West is responsible for all this.

AdultKing 09-06-2015 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20571879)
To be more exact, the West, Gulf monarchies and Turkey have not exacerbated the Syrian conflict, they have rather fomented it from the beginning by supporting the Wahhabi terrorists of ISIS.
Now unexpected fall-outs and backlashes of this politics of chaos have become a problem for themselves.
Recent developments:
- the chief of the Wahhabi terrorists and ISIS (the King of Saudi Arabia) is currently in the White House. It seems that they are talking about how to end the Syrian chaos,
- US is hinting at probable ground intervention against ISIS in Syria,
- UK and France are gesticulating about increasing their engagement,
- rumors of Russian direct military intervention in Syria,
Hope that they will come to the conclusion that this madness should stop quickly otherwise the whole region of the Middle East including Israel will be burnt in its fire.

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Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20571882)
These migrants will first ask for a place to say. Within 2 years there will be a lot of applications to the local authorities seeking permission to build mosques. After 5 years they will cry an say that they are victims and they are not getting the right to practice their religion. They will blame the west and say that West is responsible for all this.

Why are you copy pasting from other sites in your replies ? Is it because you're a worthless sig whore ?

L-Pink 09-06-2015 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20571130)
According to you, my friend, not wanting the whole of Europe to become a crazy social experiment like Sweden is bigotry. Sure thing m8. Oh, I forgot, Sweden is a model country. Taking in hordes of people from third world countries with third world ''values'' is so progressive. Ignoring the fact that rape has skyrocketed because of these people and that they are leeching off the welfare state is progressive. Heck, they can even start some riots and nobody will touch them because hey, that would be racist. And no, I am obviously not referring to the Syrians but keep twisting things, it is amusing.

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Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20571161)
Well I mean given that I can't go out and talk to a billion and a half people to understand them all I can go on is what I read about the magnitude.

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
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NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
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People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
A Year After Iraq War | Pew Research Center

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
PJ Media
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...053251,00.html

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/...aardbaar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/...for-extremism/

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...-islamist.html

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews...ms%20Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf

PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/po...cks-on-israely

Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/

See also: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_(Terrorism) for further statistics on Islamic terror.


Rather disturbing ...


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