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3xmedia 09-06-2015 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20571885)
Why are you copy pasting from other sites in your replies ? Is it because you're a worthless sig whore ?

that useless sig spamming fuck is pretty annoying, bump for ban hammer.

AdultKing 09-06-2015 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 20571919)
that useless sig spamming fuck is pretty annoying, bump for ban hammer.

Someone should start a thread about this idiot Jerkules.

The thing he's promoting is total crap also.

Maybe I should just write a bot to reply to every post he makes to warn people not to buy what is in his sig. :2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 09-06-2015 08:02 AM

The is no unity in the Arab world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_S..._d%27%C3%A9tat
^the 1966 Syrian coup The exception being the current King or strongman that uses the police or military to prop up his regime. How would you like to live that way?

The European states now mainly just shout accusations and insults at each other where they shot bullets at each other not that long ago.

The USA accepted millions of immigrants. Ellis Island was built to sort out the masses that came to our shores from Europe and other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Island

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[T]oday, over 100 million Americans?or something over about one-third of the population?can trace their ancestry to the immigrants who first arrived in America at Ellis Island before dispersing to points all over the country.[47]

Generally, those immigrants who were approved spent from two to five hours at Ellis Island. Arrivals were asked 29 questions including name, occupation, and the amount of money carried. It was important to the American government that the new arrivals could support themselves and have money to get started. The average the government wanted the immigrants to have was between 18 and 25 dollars. Those with visible health problems or diseases were sent home or held in the island's hospital facilities for long periods of time. More than three thousand would-be immigrants died on Ellis Island while being held in the hospital facilities. Some unskilled workers were rejected because they were considered "likely to become a public charge." About 2 percent were denied admission to the U.S. and sent back to their countries of origin for reasons such as having a chronic contagious disease, criminal background, or insanity.[48] Ellis Island was sometimes known as "The Island of Tears" or "Heartbreak Island"[49] because of those 2% who were not admitted after the long transatlantic voyage. ....
I am one of those 100 Million. One of my grandfathers arrived here alone only 10 years old with a suitcase and 11 dollars cash -- he had a home waiting: He could sleep on his cousin's floor with earlier arrivals from his village near Minsk. They finally let him in -- he gave them a German sounding name as his chances of entry were better than being from Russia -- back then the USA needed the immigrant so the USA was more accommodating.
Sound familiar, as many of the claims of the immigrant nationality being Syrian are false?

There were Sicilian Mafioso that came to first terrorize the Italian immigrants and later the whole country for 55 years the USA dealt with it.

Americans were hostile to the Irish that immigrated here during the potato famine ... Ireland's problems were exacerbated by British occupation and rule -- in the end the Irish revolted and ran the British off most of the island. Many Irish were 'economic-refugees' to the USA not unlike the current Muslim refugees reaching Europe's shores today. The predominantly Protestant Christians barely tolerated the hated Irish Catholics. The poorer USA working class screamed; Stop this Irish immigration they are taking our jobs! Sound familiar -- I will build a wall to keep the criminal immigrants out and there will be more jobs for Americans [US citizens](bullshit) What are Latin Americans, men from the moon? This is so arrogant I am embarrassed.

Sadly, history repeats itself then repeats itself again.


The Sunni and Shiite Muslims have the same animosity and a similar religious schism. Within each subset of coreligionist there are long standing tribal and ethnic frictions dating back over 1,000 years. So, here we are today ...

Paul Markham 09-06-2015 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20571643)
There may be a few stealthy ISIS or other Muslim extremist terrorists mixed in. So, damn them all to hell then? That is the sure way for ISIS to get new recruits -- that thinking is self defeating. Vet them all out, if necessary in refugee camps when they reach land. All of Europe is affected and all of Europe should react in unity and address this problem together. Instead, all the individual EU nation-states bicker and play the pass-the-trash immigrants to your neighbor game.

That is no solution ...

Migrant communities produce terrorists, with some coming with the refugees, that production will escalate.

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20571678)
We (NATO?) could just cut off the Middle East until they sued for peace. No oil from the region but none, or few, immigrants. Who do you think would fold first?

Then China and Russia buys the oil.

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 20571736)
Close the fucking border to middle east and africa. Set up refugee camps to house all immigrants. Yes it will take some management and partnership with a few countries in that area. European countries throw money in a pool so that the immigrants can have a "decent" life at the camps and install troops to protect them from islamic state etc. Then when things settle down there whenever that happens (first and foremost get rid of Islamic state) they can build up their own countries.

Yes, anyone who thinks these migrants can afford to pay the traffickers before leaving, is a fool. They're deep in debt when they arrive, they have to get North to find work to repay the traffickers. Look at the pictures, do these look like people with money?

Follow the money.

Paul Markham 09-06-2015 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20571947)
The is no unity in the Arab world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_S..._d%27%C3%A9tat
^the 1966 Syrian coup The exception being the current King or strongman that uses the police or military to prop up his regime. How would you like to live that way?

Remember the West praising the Arab Spring? That's how little our media and leaders know about these people. Without a despot in charge, another despot takes over. Via tribal warfare until a new tyrant wins by killing more than the rest.

Barry-xlovecam 09-06-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20571968)
Migrant communities produce terrorists, with some coming with the refugees, that production will escalate.

The USA dealt with it,

*see above^^^There were Sicilian Mafioso that came to first terrorize the Italian immigrants and later the whole country for 55 years the USA dealt with it.



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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20571968)
Then China and Russia buys the oil.

The Russians do not buy oil they export it. The Russians would make a bundle selling the Chinese oil at inflated 'oil embargo' prices :2 cents: Anyway, you seem to have lost your British whit -- That was pure sarcasm ...

Europe doesn't have to take in these immigrants.
The USA took in almost 8 million immigrants from Europe at Ellis Island in New York City until the 1920's then Canada and Latin America took many more. The USA is not welcoming masses of immigrants.

So what are you Europeans going to decide to do?
Embargo your shores to the immigrant wave -- let them drown or go back.
Or, are you just going to have a shouting contest for a year?[do nothing]

Again sarcasm ... If Germany agrees to accept up to 800K give the immigrants passage to Germany. When the 800K limit is reached, turn further immigrant waves back if there is no place for them.

That is what the USA did with the waves that came from Europe until 1923* Parts of my family ended up in Canada and Argentina. That was still in the Americas and a lot better than Odessa was.

Problem is there are 1 or 2 billion people on the planet that it really cannot now support. If there are ever mass migrations from China or India this will get real ugly.

It might be better to "help?" these people find a livable solution in the place they live now -- how I have no fuckin' idea ... The Romans sent Legions -- that in the end didn't do much good. This is a long standing cultural conflict -- but it is in Europe's neighborhood.

Would you like the USA's drones to sink their ships? (Again sarcasm, as the thought is ludicrous.)

dyna mo 09-06-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20571998)
The USA is not welcoming masses of immigrants.

and nor should we.

rogueteens 09-06-2015 09:51 AM

Brits go here - https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477 lets see if the BBC promote this poll in the way they are the pro-immigration one

femdomdestiny 09-06-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20571968)

Yes, anyone who thinks these migrants can afford to pay the traffickers before leaving, is a fool. They're deep in debt when they arrive, they have to get North to find work to repay the traffickers. Look at the pictures, do these look like people with money?

Follow the money.

Not true, tons of them are full of money. They sleep in hotels, have money on accounts or even buying properties.

Scott McD 09-06-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20572011)
Brits go here - https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477 lets see if the BBC promote this poll in the way they are the pro-immigration one

I noticed that cunt Osbourne saying we will pay for it by taking money out of the annual "12 BILLION POUNDS" we give in foreign aid.

Nice one George. You guys have this all figured out... /sarcasm

femdomdestiny 09-06-2015 11:01 AM

I am just looking through my window. I 've heard some strange screaming never heard before ...and there are dozen of those muslim kids kicking ball in the middle of the street with traffic. Screaming in Arab language and playing aggressively. It looks like I am in fucking Kandahar. I forgot to mention that some of them have gold chains around their necks. Small savages. This is sick.

dyna mo 09-06-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20571968)


Yes, anyone who thinks these migrants can afford to pay the traffickers before leaving, is a fool. They're deep in debt when they arrive, they have to get North to find work to repay the traffickers. Look at the pictures, do these look like people with money?

Follow the money.

human traffickers don't work on a net 90 agreement or financing on services rendered. i guess you think human traffickers have a bill collection dept outsourced to india and they can keep track of all the humans they trafficked. the dead ones don't have to pay for the crossing.

k0nr4d 09-06-2015 11:53 PM

The people of poland unite to help the refugees
https://translate.google.com/transla...oto&edit-text= (google translate)

georgeyw 09-07-2015 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 20571782)


If you want to scare me you should post videos like this, because - no matter how hippie I am - this scares me for real:

That video just goes to show where the problem lies... That ignorance and attitude should equate to being kicked out of the country no questions asked. They are not there to assimilate or become a part of the community in any way shape or form, they are there to be divisive.

RazorSharpe 09-07-2015 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 20572382)
That video just goes to show where the problem lies... That ignorance and attitude should equate to being kicked out of the country no questions asked. They are not there to assimilate or become a part of the community in any way shape or form, they are there to be divisive.

I totally agree. There's no place for an attitude of entitlement in a country that has adopted you. If any of my family were here and acted like that, I'd punch them in the head.

Funnily enough, people don't act like this towards foreigners. At least not that I've seen. There's varying degrees of tolerance (and intolerance) in much of the GCC states. In Saudi for example there's no pork, no alcohol and you can't even mention Christianity or any other religion without a very possible chance of going to jail.

Just off the cost of Saudi, a tiny island, Bahrain (a GCC country) has pubs galore, supermarkets sell pork products, women can drive ad they cater to all religious denominations with several churches and temples.

In much the same way that these countries expect expats to follow the law of the land, anyone not taking their oaths of allegiance to the adopted countries seriously should have their citizenship revoked and be sent packing.

Scott McD 09-07-2015 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 20572382)
That video just goes to show where the problem lies... That ignorance and attitude should equate to being kicked out of the country no questions asked. They are not there to assimilate or become a part of the community in any way shape or form, they are there to be divisive.

But they are allowed "freedom of speech".

Yet speak out against them, you end up with some jail time, and branded a racist...

femdomdestiny 09-07-2015 05:45 AM

A girl from Syria explained who are false refugees
 
http://www.pravda.rs/wp-content/uplo...ka-650x366.jpg

A girl from Syria explained who are false refugees

.......We had a strong national identity. What you ought to know is that people can see today on the streets of Belgrade on the road to Germany or the Netherlands, are not true Syrians. Do not understand me wrong, I love my people, but my people are the ones who fight for Syria, for our homeland.

It is true that refugees are suffering, but who have not suffered during this war? Why the rest of Syria remains in the country and continues to fight? If they are refugees, then they would choose to go first to the nearest safe place and not to be beaten by the Hungarian police, because they want to get to Germany. Let me ask the question: does that West does not want refugees or refugee wants or does not want to die at sea? So why not stop their sanctions against the Syrian people? Their sanctions Syria cost 143 billion dollars!

Why the West does not help Syrians to stay, why not give support to the Syrian army to get rid of terrorists and Syria to again be a safe place? Why they do not help to rebuild destroyed houses with the money spent on refugees? They take people who can renew this country. They want Syria to break down, as they want to break the Syrian people. They abduct Syrian doctors and the best students, which will cause a brain drain on the one hand, and on the other the benefit of multinational companies, that want Subtle workforce to their salaries were less.

Our nation has lost over 100,000 troops in the fight against extremists, so far we have not heard that the West is crying for them, those who gave their souls in defense of the nation, leaving behind a proud family. They deserve help, but, on the other hand, the Western media pity only those who were killed trying to flee and leave their country, including jihadists, and they have the money to pay several thousand euros for such a trip......


FULL ARTICLE WITH VIDEO

Barry-xlovecam 09-07-2015 05:52 AM

Yes, the West should give Assad money to rebuild the Alawite minority government back and while we are at it -- they would like their chemical weapons back to finish the job on the rebels :upsidedow

Assad will kill them for you ...

Paul Markham 09-07-2015 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20572046)
human traffickers don't work on a net 90 agreement or financing on services rendered. i guess you think human traffickers have a bill collection dept outsourced to india and they can keep track of all the humans they trafficked. the dead ones don't have to pay for the crossing.

No payments, they threaten the family left behind. Or do you think these millions have $6,000 per person to spare?

Paul Markham 09-07-2015 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20572023)
Not true, tons of them are full of money. They sleep in hotels, have money on accounts or even buying properties.

That would be the ones flying in.

dyna mo 09-07-2015 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20572585)
No payments, they threaten the family left behind. Or do toy think these millions have $6,000 per person to spare?

So all those men left family behind in all the slaughter to be bargaining chips while they "migrate" to safety? Now I can see why that one guy threw his wife and kid on the train track.

And if what you are saying is true, millions of refugees are having their families slaughtered back in syria for their own travel, then that would explain most all the slaughter in syria. But according to reports, its a civil war.

These refugees aren't getting jobs when they get to Germany and sending "$6000" back, if that's the number you want to go with. You think the traffickers are waiting years to get paid back and have GPS trackers on the kids these refugee guys left behind to send a hit squad to settle the bill.

femdomdestiny 09-07-2015 06:59 AM

ULTIMATUM United States require Greece to ban entry to Russia airspace

https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url

Barry-xlovecam 09-07-2015 07:46 AM

Islamic State takes Syrian government's last oilfield, reports say | World news | The Guardian

sman05 09-07-2015 07:53 AM

The interesting thing to watch will be how the countries receiving a share of the migrants are going to stop them from migrating back to Germany since i doubt these people dream of living in Romania or Hungary , this was never tackled by the smart EU politicians while debating how to divide them.

rogueteens 09-07-2015 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sman05 (Post 20572655)
The interesting thing to watch will be how the countries receiving a share of the migrants are going to stop them from migrating back to Germany since i doubt these people dream of living in Romania or Hungary , this was never tackled by the smart EU politicians while debating how to divide them.

those cunts in Germany are sneaky - Migrant crisis: Influx will change Germany, says Merkel - BBC News - it looks like Germany are accepting everyone then they want to palm them off onto other EU countries. basically forcing other countries to do what Germany wants, fuck them - they should have been nuked in 1945.

12clicks 09-07-2015 08:28 AM

Ben Shapiro Drops Some Serious Knowledge About What Muslims Believe - Young Conservatives

dyna mo 09-07-2015 08:33 AM

but according to rochard's assessment, ISis is no big deal


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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20572300)
Also, I don't think ISIL is as big or powerful as everyone seems to think. We have images in our minds of them taking over large portions of Syria ...


sman05 09-07-2015 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20572667)
looks like Germany are accepting everyone then they want to palm them off onto other EU countries. basically forcing other countries to do what Germany wants, fuck them - they should have been nuked in 1945.

I want to see them succeed as once in the EU those migrants can move freely more or less and I doubt they will stay in some underdeveloped economy instead of fleeing back to Germany.
And as for Germany of course for them it's a good opportunity to have another million or two potential customers for their exports :D

Barry-xlovecam 09-07-2015 09:44 AM

This coming from a right wing radical Jew. Figures ...

femdomdestiny 09-07-2015 09:45 AM

Enough of them will stay in underdeveloped economies because it is much better compare to place where they are coming from. Beside that, muslim fanatics don't care for most of things we care. How they stayed in Bosnia or developing their own shit Vahabi communities in Balkans

aka123 09-07-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20572558)
http://www.pravda.rs/wp-content/uplo...ka-650x366.jpg

A girl from Syria explained who are false refugees

I would describe them as "Hey, we have war in here, let's move into some other place."

Whatever that is called with just one word.

Scott McD 09-07-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20572667)
those cunts in Germany are sneaky - Migrant crisis: Influx will change Germany, says Merkel - BBC News - it looks like Germany are accepting everyone then they want to palm them off onto other EU countries. basically forcing other countries to do what Germany wants, fuck them - they should have been nuked in 1945.

There's panic already at the numbers pouring into Germany.

Merkel hasn't a fucking clue...

k0nr4d 09-07-2015 10:46 AM

If bringing in refugees gave anything of value to the host countries, Germany would not be so anxious to share them...

Sly 09-07-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20572667)
those cunts in Germany are sneaky - Migrant crisis: Influx will change Germany, says Merkel - BBC News - it looks like Germany are accepting everyone then they want to palm them off onto other EU countries. basically forcing other countries to do what Germany wants, fuck them - they should have been nuked in 1945.

This quote really jumped out at me:
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Germany - which expects 800,000 asylum requests this year - could face costs of ?10bn (£7.3bn) next year because of the influx, she added. About 18,000 people arrived in Germany over the weekend.

aka123 09-07-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20572837)
There's panic already at the numbers pouring into Germany.

Merkel hasn't a fucking clue...

They soon need more lebensraum. As does the whole Europe.

Middle-East sounds cozy. Let's take that and settle the refugees into there.

12clicks 09-07-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20572751)
This coming from a right wing radical Jew. Figures ...

I'm not a Jew you race baiting scumbag. Just vastly more intelligent than you:thumbsup

Struggle4Bucks 09-07-2015 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20572751)
This coming from a right wing radical Jew. Figures ...

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20573115)
I'm not a Jew you race baiting scumbag.

He was referring to Ben Shapiro...

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20573115)
Just vastly more intelligent than you:thumbsup

I'm sorry... you just proved otherwise....

Sly 09-07-2015 07:59 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ere/?tid=sm_fb

Barry-xlovecam 09-07-2015 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20573115)
I'm not a Jew you race baiting scumbag. Just vastly more intelligent than you:thumbsup

Rattled your chain jack-ass :)

I am a fucking Jew and I know better :2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 09-07-2015 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20573247)

That is a fair warning I suppose.


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