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dyna mo 09-21-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20585284)
There's not joke. Elvis' granddaughter plays in the movie, and I think she's insanely hot. Watching her makes my man parts move a little.

hah. did you know she's married to the dude who plays the doof warrior?

maxjohan 09-21-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20584867)
Plus that guitar guy: Terrible, childish, and it really took me out the movie.

I wouldn't call it childish. If you take into picture that they made the movie a bit wacky. This was one part to the wackyness. The other are the scantily clad ladies(which I personally didn't like too much). The chubby milk man in the beginning. And those who chase Max in the beginning of the movie.

And sooo onnn....... I personally loved the guitar guy. It was funny. And added to the wackyness.

maxjohan 09-21-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20585112)
If you think that both movies are "pseudo-intellectual drivel", can I ask you what some of your favourite movies are and why?

It's just the old school opinion of things. They can't grasp that some people doesn't need a lot of plot, or character building to enjoy a movie. For them. A movie needs to be a certain way.

It's the same with music. According to some people, everyone today should listen to Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd. They like to shout out how brainwashed other people are. And think their taste in music are the one and only. But they still haven't figured out, that people just have different tastes. And that their taste, is no better than the "brainwashed peoples" taste.

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20585112)
I think Dynamo is a dink, but how are Inception and Interstellar PSEUDO intellectual?

Interstellar was made with the help with Kip Thorne, a real theoretical physicist in gravity and astrophysics. The movie deals with space, relativity, time dilation, wormholes, black holes, and a universe beyond 3 dimensions, all of which are proven scientific facts. Nothing "pseudo" these at all.

Inception is a fantastic multilayered mind-bending story with loads of layer and detail. Of course there is the story of Cobb's mission but there is also a deeper story about Cobb and Mal, and of course, the ultimate mind-fuck at the very last second.

Both movies are in my top 5 favourite movies of all time.

If you get the chance, consider re-watching both of them.

If you think that both movies are "pseudo-intellectual drivel", can I ask you what some of your favourite movies are and why?

Cheers.

Hey,

IMO those movies are just crap.

I don't like the director at all. Hos movies are much longer than they need to be, have way more action than is necessary (I've tried to explain before, too much action in a movie is just plain boring. The cool thing about action is that the more sparingly it's used, the stronger the effect) and the action scenes go on for way too long. I think his movies are overhyped to get people thinking they are about some deep shit but in reality they are quite the opposite.

Interstellar - Really, I don't care of Einstein himself helped with the plot, it is just silly. The gushy emotional father-daughter thing is just cring worthy. We found a wormhole, we can travel through space, we can now answer thousands of questions that have baffled us for centuries, yet the plot is more concerned with a father faughter relationship that wasn't developed in the first place.

This movie takes something that would dwarf the Apollo lunar missions and turns it into some ridiculous "Plan A/Plan B" tediousness. I suggest instead watching "Through the Wormhole" with Morgan Freeman or re- watching "2001: A Space Odyssey." Even "Contact" with Jodie Foster is more entertaining and imaginative.

haInterstellar is not an intelligent picture, but a pseudo-intelligent one. It seems designed to appeal to the sort of audience who loves to be flattered with cheap shots - a sort of space odyssey version of "who wants to be a millionaire?" Its success resting entirely on the fact that every member of the audience gets to feel intelligent. This technique seems to be trending within the Nolan's filmography.

The film is oddly timed with elliptical cuts that compress the action into some often confusing edits, and only leave in lieu of dialog some awful scenes of trite, contrived exposition, filled with emetic pseudo physics, sure to give an immature modern audience raised on Batman a sense that they are building their cultural ego by agreeing with this farce. Worst of all, it feels long and never ending.

If you saw "sunshine" and thought "wow, good thing they had scientist advisers, this stuff is so plausible", you will like "interstellar".

If you saw "armaggeddon" and thought "what an awesome movie, i just wished they would have dragged the scene where he says goodbye to his daughter out even more", you will like "interstellar".

If you saw "inception" and thought "this movie would be so much better in SPACE!", you will like "interstellar".

And if you liked "2001" or any other intelligent/geeky sci-fi movie, you will hate "interstellar".

Sadly, good science fiction is hard to come by, harder than a good ordinary film even.

I don't want to get into Inception, it was a movie with a cool idea that I really wanted to like but turned out to be one big mess. Too long, too many long ridiculous action sequences thrown in for vood measure. Compared to Interstellar though I thought it was at least watchable.

In hindsight, it makes perfect sense that Nolan's 'tightest' film is Memento, a dis-cognitive story told from the point of view of a man who is unable to string two events together, or to remember where he started.

About my favorite movies.

I consider The Godfather to be the greatest movie ever made. My second favorite is Once Upon a Time in the West. My favorite sci movie is Blade Runner (Alien is a close second). The Usual Suspects is in my top 5. Kubrick is perhaps my favorite director, his best film IMO is Paths of Glory. I absolutely loved The Assassination of Jesse James and think a movie like that is truly deep and intelligent, but most people won't like it, and that's fine.



Ps: A lot of my comments about Interstellar were taken directly from negative reviews on IMDB. They just reflect exactly how I feel and I coukd have added more.

maxjohan 09-21-2015 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20585411)
The film is oddly timed with elliptical cuts that compress the action into some often confusing edits, and only leave in lieu of dialog some awful scenes of trite, contrived exposition, filled with emetic pseudo physics, sure to give an immature modern audience raised on Batman a sense that they are building their cultural ego by agreeing with this farce. Worst of all, it feels long and never ending.

The key here is the IMMATURE MODERN AUDIENCE. You gotta be kidding me. Do you like Batman the Dark Knight?? By Nolan?? I think that is my personal favorite movie ever. Inception is in the top 5 too. To each his own. I guess.

dyna mo 09-21-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20585418)
The key here is the IMMATURE MODERN AUDIENCE. You gotta be kidding me. Do you like Batman the Dark Knight?? By Nolan?? I think that is my personal favorite movie ever. Inception is in the top 5 too. To each his own. I guess.

:1orglaugh that was my favorite c&p'ed opinion too.

fact is, NO sci-fi picture gets the physics perfect.

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20585418)
The key here is the IMMATURE MODERN AUDIENCE. You gotta be kidding me. Do you like Batman the Dark Knight?? By Nolan?? I think that is my personal favorite movie ever. Inception is in the top 5 too. To each his own. I guess.

No, I think it sucks. I'd take Batman or Batman Returns over that any day and Jack Nicholsons joker is 10x better. Like I said, I can't stand Nolan, I think his movies are just olain bad. Memento is the only one I liked.

Sorry to be so blunt but if Dark Knight is your favorite movie of all time you probably haven't seen enough (good) movies or you are simply too young.

nico-t 09-21-2015 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20585112)
I think Dynamo is a dink, but how are Inception and Interstellar PSEUDO intellectual?

Interstellar was made with the help with Kip Thorne, a real theoretical physicist in gravity and astrophysics. The movie deals with space, relativity, time dilation, wormholes, black holes, and a universe beyond 3 dimensions, all of which are proven scientific facts. Nothing "pseudo" these at all.

Inception is a fantastic multilayered mind-bending story with loads of layer and detail. Of course there is the story of Cobb's mission but there is also a deeper story about Cobb and Mal, and of course, the ultimate mind-fuck at the very last second.

Both movies are in my top 5 favourite movies of all time.

If you get the chance, consider re-watching both of them.

If you think that both movies are "pseudo-intellectual drivel", can I ask you what some of your favourite movies are and why?

Cheers.

i understand his point. A friend of mine saw inception and he was really ecstatic about it, like it was mind blowing. So i went in with big expectations, but they weren't met at all... it's a simplistic story, and the 'dream inside a dream' part isnt mind blowing, it's (once again) just a gimmick.
I did gave it another try a while ago and could appreciate it more for what it really was: a mediocre but quite entertaining movie, nothing more.

Interstellar started promising with the dead wasteland where people were trying to make the best of it, but it became completely retarded when he ended up in the bookcase. It was such a huge anticlimax, like some kind of bad punchline.

The most entertaining and best science fiction movie i have seen recently is edge of tomorrow. Loved that movie, a great ride, and it has humor it. Best sci fi of the past couple of years.

dyna mo 09-21-2015 03:30 PM

comparing and contrasting interstellar- 2001 space odyssey was way too long too. that movie could be 30 minutes long and cover everything. and there's no real character development in it. nothing there to make me care about Dave, or HAL. there's not even an explanation for why HAL konked out. and the worst thing about it is the silly psychedelic trip ending. and just like interstellar, it plays with spiritual concepts, the benevolent aliens advancing mankind after watching us for 1000s of years. right. nevertheless, enjoyable to watch.

Contact is even more like interstellar with love being portrayed by physics, and, ahem, that story is by carl sagan himself. fun to watch though.

dyna mo 09-21-2015 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20585431)
The most entertaining and best science fiction movie i have seen recently is edge of tomorrow. Loved that movie, a great ride, and it has humor it. Best sci fi of the past couple of years.

cruise does a good sci-fi. did you notice they renamed that movie to "live die repeat"?

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20585431)

The most entertaining and best science fiction movie i have seen recently is edge of tomorrow. Loved that movie, a great ride, and it has humor it. Best sci fi of the past couple of years.

I really liked that one too. A simple but well developed story like that is much more effective.

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20585432)

Contact is even more like interstellar with love being portrayed by physics, and, ahem, that story is by carl sagan himself. fun to watch though.

Contact is a fantastic movie. Yes, it's about a father/daughter relationship but it's sooo much better because it doesn't go out of its way to be an Epic masterpiece. Actually, I think it's just as much about how religion and science can coexist in harmony than it is about love. I don't get the Carl Sagan reference.

dyna mo 09-21-2015 03:43 PM

carl sagan wrote contact. and my point was 1) it's a sci-fi that embraces love as physics and 2) that is directly from carl sagan. the negative reviews you posted re: interstellar included the one about vomit-worthy pseudo-physics, that has to be about love being the 4th dimension, as done in interstellar. you don't like the pseudo-physics in interstellar but give it a free pass in both Contact and 2001.

the 5th element, another fun sci-fi was about love/physics, that was the 5th element.

TonyL 09-21-2015 03:49 PM

:) : ) :)

dyna mo 09-21-2015 03:54 PM

2001 went way out of its way to be epic. that's one of Kubrick's more pretentious films in fact.

maxjohan 09-21-2015 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20585425)
Sorry to be so blunt but if Dark Knight is your favorite movie of all time you probably haven't seen enough (good) movies or you are simply too young.

Like I said before. I think it's just different taste. For different people.

But, I can admit, I haven't watched a lot of movies during the last 5 years or so. Infact. Probably less than 10.

Have you seen the Good, the bad, the ugly? What is your opinion of the movie, if you have seen it... ??

I recently watched it. And I think it was a great movie. Was well made and thought out.

On another note, I didn't enjoy the first hobbit movie that much. Haven't seen the other two. I think the first Hobbit movie was just so much random scenes, that just seemed to pop up. Some which wasn't even included in the book.

Far away as good as the LOTR movies. Which I all enjoyed a lot.

bronco67 09-21-2015 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20585418)
The key here is the IMMATURE MODERN AUDIENCE. You gotta be kidding me. Do you like Batman the Dark Knight?? By Nolan?? I think that is my personal favorite movie ever. Inception is in the top 5 too. To each his own. I guess.

Let's keep in mind he ripped that elegant, yet overly analytical thought from an iMdb review -- so don't believe J Falcon is that intelligent.

Interstellar Reviews & Ratings - IMDb

Next to last paragraph. Don't engage that guy in a discussion about movies. He's too far up his own ass to enjoy anything -- or come up with some original thoughts of his own.

Sly 09-21-2015 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20585492)
Let's keep in mind he ripped that elegant, yet overly analytical thought from an iMdb review -- so don't believe J Falcon is that intelligent.

Interstellar Reviews & Ratings - IMDb

Next to last paragraph. Don't engage that guy in a discussion about movies. He's too far up his own ass to enjoy anything -- or come up with some original thoughts of his own.

More of a "deep thinker" than a "deep writer."

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20585487)
Like I said before. I think it's just different taste. For different people.

But, I can admit, I haven't watched a lot of movies during the last 5 years or so. Infact. Probably less than 10.

Have you seen the Good, the bad, the ugly? What is your opinion of the movie, if you have seen it... ??

I recently watched it. And I think it was a great movie. Was well made and thought out.

On another note, I didn't enjoy the first hobbit movie that much. Haven't seen the other two. I think the first Hobbit movie was just so much random scenes, that just seemed to pop up. Some which wasn't even included in the book.

Far away as good as the LOTR movies. Which I all enjoyed a lot.


The Good the Bad and the Ugly is one of the greatest films of all time. Sergio Leone is one of my favorite directors. Watch Once Upon a Time in the West, it's even better.

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20585492)
Let's keep in mind he ripped that elegant, yet overly analytical thought from an iMdb review -- so don't believe J Falcon is that intelligent.

Interstellar Reviews & Ratings - IMDb

Next to last paragraph. Don't engage that guy in a discussion about movies. He's too far up his own ass to enjoy anything -- or come up with some original thoughts of his own.

I never said you have to be intelligent to enjoy intelligent films. But hey, at least Inwas honest about it, I could have changed the wording and you not have been the wiser. The trusth is, first, I haven't seen those films in months and years, and second those people express for me exactly what is wrong with those films.

mikeet 09-21-2015 06:17 PM

2 :thumbsup for Mad Max

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mchtye (Post 20585529)
2 :thumbsup for Mad Max

You mean the original, right?

mikeet 09-21-2015 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20585545)
You mean the original, right?

Both! :winkwink:

Sly 09-21-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20585528)
I never said you have to be intelligent to enjoy intelligent films. But hey, at least Inwas honest about it, I could have changed the wording and you not have been the wiser. The trusth is, first, I haven't seen those films in months and years, and second those people express for me exactly what is wrong with those films.

So you posted another person's word as your own, and you are the decent guy because you didn't reword it just a little bit so you could be tracked down?

That's a new one. I'll give you credit for that.

Rob 09-21-2015 06:38 PM

Some people...


J. Falcon 09-21-2015 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20585548)
So you posted another person's word as your own, and you are the decent guy because you didn't reword it just a little bit so you could be tracked down?

That's a new one. I'll give you credit for that.

I didn't post it as my own. I suggest you go back and reread it, if you read it at all.

Sly 09-21-2015 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20585551)
I didn't post it as my own.

How is that? Explain.

I read it, just like several others. Nobody thought it was a quote or a script from somewhere else.

LOL. I see your PS note. Use the quote tags, that's what they are there for.

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20585556)
How is that? Explain.

I read it, just like several others. Nobody thought it was a quote or a script from somewhere else.

LOL. I see your PS note. Use the quote tags, that's what they are there for.

Yeah I usually do but I'm on my phone, don't see them on mobile.

bronco67 09-21-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20585499)
More of a "deep thinker" than a "deep writer."


hahaha nice

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20585559)
hahaha nice

What are you laughing at, Deep Throater?

bronco67 09-21-2015 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20585528)
I never said you have to be intelligent to enjoy intelligent films. But hey, at least Inwas honest about it, I could have changed the wording and you not have been the wiser. The trusth is, first, I haven't seen those films in months and years, and second those people express for me exactly what is wrong with those films.

Please don't try to defend passing off another's words as your own and thinking no one would notice that it came from you. Or that notice that Google exists.

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20585564)
Please don't try to defend passing off another's words as your own and thinking no one would notice that it came from you. Or that notice that Google exists.

Are you a fucking idiot or just illiterate?

bronco67 09-21-2015 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20585551)
I didn't post it as my own. I suggest you go back and reread it, if you read it at all.

That wasn't there before. You saw you were caught and added it before the edit expired. It looks like you mixed it in with your own "intellectual" ramblings, so don't try to act like you gave some kind of credit. But someone who would engage in that kind of behavior would also think everyone else is too dumb to know, so it makes perfect sense.

maxjohan 09-21-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20585524)
The Good the Bad and the Ugly is one of the greatest films of all time. Sergio Leone is one of my favorite directors. Watch Once Upon a Time in the West, it's even better.

Well, it seems like you just like movies with realism then?? Or more realistic movies.

Will try to catch that movie some day. As I already got a bunch I haven't watched yet. I got For a Few Dollars More on DVD. Which I haven't watched yet. And I think I got this double DVD(with The good, the bad, the ugly on it too) like 6 years ago. Crazy!!

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20585566)
That wasn't there before. You saw you were caught and added it before the edit expired. It looks like you mixed it in with your own "intellectual" ramblings, so don't try to act like you gave some kind of credit. But someone who would engage in that kind of behavior would also think everyone else is too dumb to know, so it makes perfect sense.

It was always there. I don't see an "edited" notice, so your wrong or just talking out your ass.

JFK 09-21-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 20584535)
Gonna buy it too then!

me too, the 3D version !:thumbsup:thumbsup

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20585568)
Well, it seems like you just like movies with realism then?? Or more realistic movies.

Will try to catch that movie some day. As I already got a bunch I haven't watched yet. I got For a Few Dollars More on DVD. Which I haven't watched yet. And I think I got this double DVD(with The good, the bad, the ugly on it too) like 6 years ago. Crazy!!

I wouldn't say Sergio Leone movies have a lot of realism, but they do feel real. They are just fucking cool as hell. The music, the shots, the close ups, the awesome dialogue, the stares. It's no surprise his style has been copied by all the directors we consider great these days.

Sly 09-21-2015 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20585570)
It was always there. I don't see an "edited" notice, so your wrong or just talking out your ass.


The edit notice does not always show.

I edited my post above as well. No edit notice.

maxjohan 09-21-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20585570)
It was always there. I don't see an "edited" notice, so your wrong or just talking out your ass.

If you are quick enough. The edit will not show up. I think I read it, and thought you wrote it too. Nevertheless. Hope you aren't lying?? :/

J. Falcon 09-21-2015 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20585581)
The edit notice does not always show.

I edited my post above as well. No edit notice.

It doesn't show if you edit it right away. If you edit it several minutes later it shows. Why would it show only sometimes? But whatever, it's not my problem you guys missed it.


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