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TCLGirls 09-22-2015 12:11 AM

I am your redeemer. It is by my hand you will rise from the ashes of this world. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 09-22-2015 01:54 AM

If you believe abortion is murder -- then don't abort your fetus.

There is established SCOTUS precedent , Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973) that settled the matter -- </issue>

The irony is that the pro-lifers are the most vocal social services and mandated healthcare opponents too. In other words, even if they could force their will they would not be willing to pay the price for the results :2 cents:

JJ Gold 09-22-2015 02:13 AM

I would rather have dead babies than full grown criminals.

That being said Crockett is a flame throwing jamoke and Mark Prince is an angry Canadian. Their opinions carry no weight and their lives are pathetic.

Lest we forget their heroes tried to blame Benghazi on an "anti-Muslim YouTube video".

aka123 09-22-2015 03:18 AM

Keeping fetus alive? I haven't seen that much debates about someone's fetus around here.

slapass 09-22-2015 05:43 AM

Can't find it on Fox. This might be inaccurate as no real outlet has run the story yet.

_Richard_ 09-22-2015 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20585830)
Can't find it on Fox. This might be inaccurate as no real outlet has run the story yet.

Can Carly Fiorina capitalize on breakout debate performance? | On Air Videos | Fox News

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Sly 09-22-2015 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20585830)
Can't find it on Fox. This might be inaccurate as no real outlet has run the story yet.

Chris Wallace goes after her here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdHKTy7pHL8

Rochard 09-22-2015 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20585626)
rochard and crockett get it wrong again.

here's the video



and here is the sworn statement by the owner of the video:

Gregg Cunningham, executive director of The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform, the organization that obtained the footage and provided it to CMP, said in a statement:

?The video clip we provided to CMP depicted an intact delivery abortion. It was filmed at an abortion clinic. It was not a miscarriage. Mothers don?t go to abortion clinics to miscarry. Had this case been a miscarriage, the mother would have presented at a hospital and her baby would have been rushed to an Isolette for appropriate neonatal care ? not abandoned to writhe and eventually expire in a cold, stainless steel specimen vessel. As regards the organizational affiliation of the abortion facility in which this termination was performed, our access agreements forbid the disclosure of any information which might tend to identify the relevant clinics or personnel with whom we work. Preserving confidentiality is vital to future clinic access. I can, however, assure you that the footage in question is not anomalous. It is representative of the frequent outcomes of many late term intact delivery terminations performed at clinics of all organizational affiliations.?

https://www.abortionno.org/about-cbr/director-profiles/

This is nothing.

This is a twenty-two second video on Youtube of a person talking about what she sees on the video. We cannot verify who she is, what the video is of, where it was taken, nor does she mention any sworn statement. She doesn't seem to be a doctor, nor is there a doctor in the video, and the only person saying "we need to take the brain" is her.

With that said, a little bit of research turns this up....

Undercover Antiabortion Video Showed Images of Stillborn*? Not Aborted ? Fetus - Yahoo News

On Friday, the Center for Medical Progress (CMP), the antiabortion activist group that has been releasing undercover videos targeting Planned Parenthood, the practice of fetal tissue donation, and later-term abortion, has admitted that images shown in its most recent video of a fetus of approximately 19 weeks gestational age was not taken at a Planned Parenthood affiliate clinic, as heavily implied in the video.

The Center for Medical Progress posted a new link on the video?s YouTube page late Thursday, adding that one of the images was actually of a baby named Walter Fretz, born prematurely at 19 weeks.


So in the end, this wasn't an abortion at all. It was a premature birth. It wasn't even at a Planned Parenthood clinic. There was no doctor who said "we need to save the baby's brain".

All of this was a lie. Everything about this is a lie.

dyna mo 09-22-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20586053)
This is nothing.

This is a twenty-two second video on Youtube of a person talking about what she sees on the video. We cannot verify who she is, what the video is of, where it was taken, nor does she mention any sworn statement. She doesn't seem to be a doctor, nor is there a doctor in the video, and the only person saying "we need to take the brain" is her.

With that said, a little bit of research turns this up....

Undercover Antiabortion Video Showed Images of Stillbornha? Not Aborted ? Fetus - Yahoo News

On Friday, the Center for Medical Progress (CMP), the antiabortion activist group that has been releasing undercover videos targeting Planned Parenthood, the practice of fetal tissue donation, and later-term abortion, has admitted that images shown in its most recent video of a fetus of approximately 19 weeks gestational age was not taken at a Planned Parenthood affiliate clinic, as heavily implied in the video.

The Center for Medical Progress posted a new link on the video?s YouTube page late Thursday, adding that one of the images was actually of a baby named Walter Fretz, born prematurely at 19 weeks.


So in the end, this wasn't an abortion at all. It was a premature birth. It wasn't even at a Planned Parenthood clinic. There was no doctor who said "we need to save the baby's brain".

All of this was a lie. Everything about this is a lie.


wrong again, as per usual.

here is walter fretz

Walter Joshua Fretz - F2 Photography

as you can see, he was not tossed into a stainless steel bowl after birth.

that has nothing at all to do with the actual video clip in question

crockett 09-22-2015 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Gold (Post 20585759)
I would rather have dead babies than full grown criminals.

That being said Crockett is a flame throwing jamoke and Mark Prince is an angry Canadian. Their opinions carry no weight and their lives are pathetic.

Lest we forget their heroes tried to blame Benghazi on an "anti-Muslim YouTube video".

You sound so angry as with all consertives you attempt to judge other's life styles and lash out with hateful remarks to anyone who isn't of your collective zombie mindset. Notice I don't lash out about your boring existence of a life. I just point out how dumb consertives and their ideas are..

Sure I may poke fun at the easy rider motorcycle club here on GFY, but that's because they've earned it due to repeated attacks..

Sly 09-22-2015 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20586114)
Notice I don't lash out about your boring existence of a life. I just point out how dumb consertives and their ideas are..

You forgot your new trademark. Let me help you.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080206005458

Rochard 09-22-2015 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20586067)
wrong again, as per usual.

here is walter fretz

Walter Joshua Fretz - F2 Photography

as you can see, he was not tossed into a stainless steel bowl after birth.

that has nothing at all to do with the actual video clip in question

So now you are telling us that the baby wasn't aborted or dead at all, but is a alive and doing well?

But no matter what this had nothing to do with planned parent hood?

Sorry, I'll believe a Yahoo news article over some photography site that may or may not be the same baby.

Rochard 09-22-2015 10:31 AM

Is this the same baby?

Miscarried at 19 Weeks, Baby Walter's Life is Changing the Abortion Debate | LifeNews.com

So it wasn't even an abortion?

They used a live baby and claimed it was the result of an abortion? And it had nothing to do with Planned Parenthood?

So no abortion, no planned parenthood, the video lied using a live baby, and all of this took place in a hospital.

This was nothing but a lie since day one.


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