Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585667)

He claims it was filmed at an abortion clinic.. Doesn't say planned parenthood.. Could be from anywhere... So who got it wrong? You did..

Look I agree late term abortions are fucked and should be illegal unless the mother's life is in danger... However this is not about that.. It's about Relgious fudies lying to try to stir public opinion.

If she will lie about this, she will lie just like Bush did to push us into a war.. Did anyone see how much of a war monger she was in the debate? Why is it all Christian fundies are anti abortion but extreemly pro war?

The other thing is why do right wingers hate abortions so much, then are the first to whine and complain about welfare moms... It's like you guys all are bi polar crazy fucks..

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20585701)

Right, that's a fake fetus in the fucking bowl. Use your head, you think the fucking hospital throws miscarries in an open metal bowl for mom to see.

You try way too hard to troll.

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20585669)

It's more than that, LPink..

Fiorina and the other republicans lie constantly about a lot of things, but mostly, lately, about Planned Parenthood. This is really serious because if they get their way, Planned Parenthood will close down and tens of thousands of women will not be able to get the health care they need.

Republicans like to say that Planned Parenthood gives out abortions like candy, that those abortions are paid for by the government, and that they sell fetuses for science experiments. All total bullshit.

Only about 3% of Planned Parenthood's work is for abortions, and 0% of that is paid for by the government. As for selling Fetuses? That's bullshit too. What they actually do is provide Fetal Tissue to Universities. Fetal Tissue Sales : snopes.com

Fiorina is not alone. That holler than thou prick Rick Santorum spewed the same shit, that is, until he quit the race. (Oh and Scott Walker quit today too. Good riddance, gentlemen).

People need to stop throwing up their hands and saying that all politicians lie. This shit is really dangerous, and Florina needs to issue an apology.

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20585703)

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20585714)

You're like farva putting soap in my coffee. But that has nothing to do with what you wrote about the quote being truthful. And I noticed you didn't pull your snarky bullshit over the thread topic misstatement about Rachel fiorini. Again, you try way too hard. It's phony pedantic troll. Mediocre.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20585716)

Heads up I'm not the one doing snarky drivebys in here. Using my fun movie thread agianst me to make another snarky driveby, I'm not surprised.

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20585830)

Can't find it on Fox. This might be inaccurate as no real outlet has run the story yet.

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20585830)

Can't find it on Fox. This might be inaccurate as no real outlet has run the story yet.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20585626)

rochard and crockett get it wrong again.

here's the video



and here is the sworn statement by the owner of the video:

Gregg Cunningham, executive director of The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform, the organization that obtained the footage and provided it to CMP, said in a statement:

?The video clip we provided to CMP depicted an intact delivery abortion. It was filmed at an abortion clinic. It was not a miscarriage. Mothers don?t go to abortion clinics to miscarry. Had this case been a miscarriage, the mother would have presented at a hospital and her baby would have been rushed to an Isolette for appropriate neonatal care ? not abandoned to writhe and eventually expire in a cold, stainless steel specimen vessel. As regards the organizational affiliation of the abortion facility in which this termination was performed, our access agreements forbid the disclosure of any information which might tend to identify the relevant clinics or personnel with whom we work. Preserving confidentiality is vital to future clinic access. I can, however, assure you that the footage in question is not anomalous. It is representative of the frequent outcomes of many late term intact delivery terminations performed at clinics of all organizational affiliations.?

https://www.abortionno.org/about-cbr/director-profiles/

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20586053)

This is nothing.

This is a twenty-two second video on Youtube of a person talking about what she sees on the video. We cannot verify who she is, what the video is of, where it was taken, nor does she mention any sworn statement. She doesn't seem to be a doctor, nor is there a doctor in the video, and the only person saying "we need to take the brain" is her.

With that said, a little bit of research turns this up....

Undercover Antiabortion Video Showed Images of Stillbornha? Not Aborted ? Fetus - Yahoo News

On Friday, the Center for Medical Progress (CMP), the antiabortion activist group that has been releasing undercover videos targeting Planned Parenthood, the practice of fetal tissue donation, and later-term abortion, has admitted that images shown in its most recent video of a fetus of approximately 19 weeks gestational age was not taken at a Planned Parenthood affiliate clinic, as heavily implied in the video.

The Center for Medical Progress posted a new link on the video?s YouTube page late Thursday, adding that one of the images was actually of a baby named Walter Fretz, born prematurely at 19 weeks.

So in the end, this wasn't an abortion at all. It was a premature birth. It wasn't even at a Planned Parenthood clinic. There was no doctor who said "we need to save the baby's brain".

All of this was a lie. Everything about this is a lie.

Originally Posted by JJ Gold (Post 20585759)

I would rather have dead babies than full grown criminals.

That being said Crockett is a flame throwing jamoke and Mark Prince is an angry Canadian. Their opinions carry no weight and their lives are pathetic.

Lest we forget their heroes tried to blame Benghazi on an "anti-Muslim YouTube video".

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20586114)

Notice I don't lash out about your boring existence of a life. I just point out how dumb consertives and their ideas are..

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20586067)

wrong again, as per usual.

here is walter fretz

Walter Joshua Fretz - F2 Photography

as you can see, he was not tossed into a stainless steel bowl after birth.

that has nothing at all to do with the actual video clip in question