hello. if this is the level of intellect you bring to me, then go away. the article proves 1 thing only - that you are clueless about the manipulatability of statistics. plus, your still wrong. nothing tangible has been harmed, only statistical theories that a .00001% extra NOx may or may not kill some people. its so fucking nonsensical on its face you should be ashamed of yourself coming here with this shit.

again, name 1 ACTUAL, not theoretical based on some stat by some politically motivated tripe, ACTUAL person or animal harmed. ACTUAL...

but your the guy that posted the wrong pic of the clock suitcase hoax bomb. so clearly you have no interest in facts.

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come on TCL, name the actual human being, murdered by VW's tailpipe. NAME 1 SINGLE PERSON, just 1, on this whole wide world. name 1.

you can prove me wrong, just give us 1 name of 1 person murdered by their VW. Take all the time you need.

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i guess you cant even understand his own words. he could not commit to anyone ACTUALLY being killed. did you even read it?

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pointless. you are avoiding my questions, deflecting. you lose.

still waiting...just name 1 thing impacted. like actual impact. im sorry i couldnt anticipate in advance that you needed me to be crystal clear that i was asking for an actual death, not a statistical pony-show. but i guess you get hung up on such nonsense when you have no facts to back you up & you know you cant name 1 dead person or plant.

just name someone who got a fucking headcold from their fucking VW's tailpipe! anything!

clownshoes. :2 cents:

i never ever claimed you did. i only asked for any evidence of harm to anyone. you come to me with lies, damn lies, AKA, statistics.

which, according to the engineer, cannot directly point to a single actual fatality. only theoretical. you know, like the 42 year old 911 first responder, who owned a VW, & died. The VW put him over the top & he died. Just name 1 time that happened! Just 1!!!

Is there anyone more argumentative and dense than the man posting in plum?


Holy fuck I quit even reading threads he's in. Just beating the most obtuse off-base reasoning to death. I like the old truck though.

you are still deflecting. that means your losing. parcing words isnt gonna get you the win. come on! if the there are 5 people dying per year thanks to the actions of VW, then those people have names, right?

so tell me who died. until you answer this, you lose.

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yes. you cant name any harm, at all. & i repeat, you prove only that you are clueless about the malleability of statistics.

dialogue over. you failed.

TCL...i'll put it in big font so even a 10 year old can get it...

i hope this helps you understand this single sentence renders the entire article as speculative. but no, you are more worried that i skipped the word "actual" in wanting the harm defined.

this is why i am asking for real, actual harm, not theories from politically motivated tripe. if real people are dying, they have names, name them.

pfft. :upsidedow

you really are a terrible debater. twice in 1 hour you put words in my mouth. i never assumed you accept the article 100% as truth. never said you claimed a person died.

you have spent a dozen posts dancing around my definition of naming 1 single person or plant harmed. your answer is to cite politically motivated junk science, & then tell me this answers my question.

& you STILL will not directly answer anything to my simple, easy-to-answer question. As your information alludes to actual deaths, then those deaths are real, & therefore they are people with names. So name an individual who was harmed by VW's emmissions. I've asked for this 6 times now, but you instead discuss the way i phrase my questions.

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Yes you did when you said: "you prove only that you are clueless about the malleability of statistics."

That would only be true if I accepted the article as 100% truth without keeping open the possibility of biases.

let me point out 1 more thing. If you think VW is actually killing people by what they did, & you drive an early 70s truck (i think i saw a pic you posted, its very nice) then you sir are a murderer, & you should be prosecuted for the dozens, hundred of deaths over 40 years that you caused with your truck. my grandma died of smog. you killed her, right?

how do you like them apples! :winkwink:

Thread locked in troll loop and needs to be reset

Based off your own logic you should be arrested for harboring a murderer in your garage :1orglaugh


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you have also avoided, again, naming anyone who was harmed. just posted slanted yellow journalism which states, & i will put it in maximum font, maybe it will sink in this third time:

Statistically, we can't point out who died because of this policy

so...again...who died from what VW did?

& since posting 3 times did not get through, how about 10...

Statistically, we can't point out who died because of this policy
Statistically, we can't point out who died because of this policy
Statistically, we can't point out who died because of this policy
Statistically, we can't point out who died because of this policy
Statistically, we can't point out who died because of this policy
Statistically, we can't point out who died because of this policy
Statistically, we can't point out who died because of this policy
Statistically, we can't point out who died because of this policy
Statistically, we can't point out who died because of this policy
Statistically, we can't point out who died because of this policy

OK i will help you. you do not need to come to a conclusion as to whether VW's cheat...VW already admitted to it.

also your truck did not & does not directly harm anyone. The VWs & your trucks exhaust is infinitessimal on the overall scale of externalities wrought by human innovations.

this is my simple point, all along. nobody got harmed, with the exception of liberals who bought the car thinking it was cleaner than it was. Fraud is the big issue, not any actual harm to the environment or to people or animals or plants. there is no provable harm, just theories from the junk science crowd.

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My niece has a turbo Jetta and loves it. Power and fuel range. When I talked to her she was only concerned about where she now stands because Northern Virginia has emission testing. She doesn't want a slower version of what she bought if that's what it takes to comply with testing.


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Does your truck use or require leaded gasoline?

Waiting with both barrels loaded aren't you, lol.

Agree 100% :thumbsup