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_Richard_ 10-23-2015 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CHMOD (Post 20612966)
The guy will destroy Canada. His father is one of the ideological founders of multiculturalism, which failed everywhere on the planet.

Even after seeing the miserable European immigration failure based on that ideology, he wants to do EXACTLY the same thing in Canada.
In other words: He wants to repeat step by step the same mistakes as others did even after seeing the horrible results.

The guy is a danger for our country.

oh noes, he might even introduce another charter freedom of rights, but even more powerful than ever before

you feel you live in a failed country?

BlackCrayon 10-23-2015 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20613112)
oh noes, he might even introduce another charter freedom of rights, but even more powerful than ever before

you feel you live in a failed country?

there are people who don't want to pay more taxes, that don't want to see scores more people hired in the public sector and people who don't want to see tens of thousands of immigrants coming here to just end up welfare. hard to believe isn't it.

JFK 10-23-2015 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20612896)
At least Daddy didn't start any wars and lie to his people like a certain other draft dodger we all know.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

ravo 10-23-2015 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20613135)
there are people who don't want to pay more taxes, that don't want to see scores more people hired in the public sector and people who don't want to see tens of thousands of immigrants coming here to just end up welfare. hard to believe isn't it.

Immigrants to Canada, on average, earn MORE than native-born Canadians, and use LESS welfare/social services than native-born Canadians.

BlackCrayon 10-23-2015 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ravo (Post 20613206)
Immigrants to Canada, on average, earn MORE than native-born Canadians, and use LESS welfare/social services than native-born Canadians.

i know people who work for welfare and disability and they say the number of immigrants on welfare compared to "native born" canadians is about 4 to 1.

of course there are some that do really well and some who come here rich (and pretend to be poor, using the welfare system since they keep their money in foreign banks) but especially refugees, people who can't speak the language usually end up unable to find jobs or come here with some kind of mental/physical disability so they "can't" work.

TheLegacy 10-23-2015 07:30 AM

Although he's got elected a few days ago the one thing he did that was meaningful and showed his colors is that the next day he spent a few hours on a subway thanking Canadian's for voting for him. Never have I heard of a politician after being elected make a first move by going where the people are and thanking them. Shows humility.

His platform has holes but overall if anyone may do things right for the Canadian people at this moment I have hope.

_Richard_ 10-23-2015 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20613239)
i know people who work for welfare and disability and they say the number of immigrants on welfare compared to "native born" canadians is about 4 to 1.

of course there are some that do really well and some who come here rich (and pretend to be poor, using the welfare system since they keep their money in foreign banks) but especially refugees, people who can't speak the language usually end up unable to find jobs or come here with some kind of mental/physical disability so they "can't" work.

that stat is based on their impressions on who is coming in? do you know if that would include the immigration assistance all receive?

anyway, without arguing about things we don't have much to do with, the newest study i can find had immigrant families directly using about 10k in government services per year, while paying 20k in taxes (on average). there have been difficulties over the past 20 years on how long it takes them to find steady work, but that number as of 1995 shows them paying twice as much as they use

CHMOD 10-23-2015 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20612728)
Trudeau will allow people to enter Canada with their faces covered

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Originally Posted by ravo (Post 20613106)
Not true. Stop spouting mis-truths.

It is 100% true. Trudeau is an islamophile and has absolutely no clue what the niqab nor the burqa means. He clearly said that he has no issues letting full covered face islamists doing their canadian citizenship vow


CHMOD 10-23-2015 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ravo (Post 20613206)
Immigrants to Canada, on average, earn MORE than native-born Canadians, and use LESS welfare/social services than native-born Canadians.

Bullshit! This is purely a lie: Immigrants cost $23B a year: Fraser Institute report | National Post

Jman 10-23-2015 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20612728)
That's not true - Trudeau will allow people to enter Canada with their faces covered - so we're potentially bringing ISIS into Canada as "refugees".

As long as the face-covered "refugees" stay at Liberty politicians homes...I can't see there being a problem.

Can you please tell me where he exactly said people will be allowed to enter with face covered?

We only had 2 terrorist attacks from islamiste fanatics and both attackers where young brainwashed local punks. 1 using a rifle and the other a car in a parking lot.

I myself have been living in the center of Montreal where I am a minority as a french canadian and I have NEVER seen a women with her face completely covered. :2 cents:

Jman 10-23-2015 09:27 AM

I bet a bunch of you's will be shitting your pants on halloween.... Oh wait it's just a kid dressed as a ghosts.

CHMOD 10-23-2015 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jman (Post 20613399)
Can you please tell me where he exactly said people will be allowed to enter with face covered?

We only had 2 terrorist attacks from islamiste fanatics and both attackers where young brainwashed local punks. 1 using a rifle and the other a car in a parking lot.

I myself have been living in the center of Montreal where I am a minority as a french canadian and I have NEVER seen a women with her face completely covered. :2 cents:


Look at the video that I posted up here for your answer. Also dude, you speak french, then have a look at Poste de veille for more info on how Montreal is a global hub for islamist terrorists because of our lack of vigilance.

Second, the fact that you personally never saw them makes no difference. Or do you mean that we should wait to see 100s of them before taking actions against them? We really have to wait that the shit hits the fan? That doesn't sound very wise to me.

BlackCrayon 10-23-2015 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jman (Post 20613399)
Can you please tell me where he exactly said people will be allowed to enter with face covered?

We only had 2 terrorist attacks from islamiste fanatics and both attackers where young brainwashed local punks. 1 using a rifle and the other a car in a parking lot.

I myself have been living in the center of Montreal where I am a minority as a french canadian and I have NEVER seen a women with her face completely covered. :2 cents:

i'm sure you've seen plenty that just have the eyes exposed. i see those all the time here in ottawa.

Jman 10-23-2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20613421)
i'm sure you've seen plenty that just have the eyes exposed. i see those all the time here in ottawa.

Nope not even just the eyes. I see them with vails on their head but that's about it.

Again I'm not living in fear and enjoy MY life. I do good I get good back.

Aussi simple que ca

BlackCrayon 10-23-2015 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jman (Post 20613555)
Nope not even just the eyes. I see them with vails on their head but that's about it.

Again I'm not living in fear and enjoy MY life. I do good I get good back.

Aussi simple que ca

I don't fear these people. I am not a sad slave to religion like they are. I don't really understand them I guess. I look at them as oppressed people. I want to tell them that they don't have to live like that anymore, you're in canada now! but they rather enslave themselves. I don't appreciate people coming here and trying to make this country like their country. I don't appreciate people collecting welfare, going to food banks while they have six figures in a bank overseas and drive mercedes.

_Richard_ 10-23-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CHMOD (Post 20613388)

that is an incredible bastardization of the statistics. of course 'newly arrived' immigrants would have a higher burden on the system. The full report works on a 5 year basis for just that reason

did your think-tank tell you that little detail? or just what it wanted you to repeat?

CHMOD 10-23-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20613607)
that is an incredible bastardization of the statistics. of course 'newly arrived' immigrants would have a higher burden on the system. The full report works on a 5 year basis for just that reason

did your think-tank tell you that little detail? or just what it wanted you to repeat?

Dude, the Fraser institute has much more credibility than you. You are just being in bad faith. Uninteresting.

_Richard_ 10-23-2015 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CHMOD (Post 20613614)
Dude, the Fraser institute has much more credibility than you. You are just being in bad faith. Uninteresting.

fantastic! im not attempting to compete or replace the Fraser Institute, and they certainly aren't above mistakes or reproach.

you wanna talk about uninteresting? ad hominem arguments. im sure the canadian education does better than this

directfiesta 10-23-2015 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20612473)
Canadians are not exempt, ISis called for a jihad against Canada/canadians.

... because of our staunch support of Israel... and our military actions against muslims in their homeland ...

easy to understand ...

SilentKnight 10-23-2015 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jman (Post 20613399)
Can you please tell me where he exactly said people will be allowed to enter with face covered?

Not difficult to find if you bothered to look yourself.

Woman thrilled by reference in Trudeau speech | St. Catharines Standard

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The Conservatives under defeated prime minister Stephen Harper had been adamant women should not be allowed to wear face coverings face coverings, such as the niqab, at citizenship ceremonies.
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On election night, Trudeau drew from that earlier St. Catharines conversation. He said a woman should have the freedom to choose what she wears.
Trudeau, Mulcair go on the offensive over niqab issue in 2nd French-language debate - Politics - CBC News

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Mulcair and Trudeau oppose the Conservative government's ban on the wearing of the face veil while taking the Canadian citizenship oath.

_Richard_ 10-23-2015 05:01 PM

allowed to enter the country as in the border...

SilentKnight 10-23-2015 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20613706)
allowed to enter the country as in the border...

Since this has been all over the news the last while (especially as an election issue) and it's generally a given that intelligent and informed people know that it pertains to the citizenship ceremony - only a simpleton who's either naive or deliberately ignorant of the issue would play semantics with 'entering Canada'.

CHMOD 10-24-2015 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20613739)
Since this has been all over the news the last while (especially as an election issue) and it's generally a given that intelligent and informed people know that it pertains to the citizenship ceremony - only a simpleton who's either naive or deliberately ignorant of the issue would play semantics with 'entering Canada'.

:2 cents::thumbsup

_Richard_ 10-24-2015 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20613739)
Since this has been all over the news the last while (especially as an election issue) and it's generally a given that intelligent and informed people know that it pertains to the citizenship ceremony - only a simpleton who's either naive or deliberately ignorant of the issue would play semantics with 'entering Canada'.

fair enough, i read it differently.

anyway, anyone who even raises the topic 'niqab' is a simpleton. So you can be talking about a ceremony for citizenship in a country that promises freedom of religion

and not 'whatever racist rednecks feel like' .


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