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ZiggiZiggiCrew 11-24-2015 06:11 AM

Turkey = NATO = USA
USA support ISIS? What's wrong in my logic?

fish1 11-24-2015 06:12 AM

Reports are that both Pilots are dead.

ZiggiZiggiCrew 11-24-2015 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sarn (Post 20645287)
нужно было сопровождать бомберы истребителями, догонять и сбивать атакующий турецкий самолет. а не сидеть потом в дурацком положении. за ошибки нужно платить

Не соглашусь, наверняка были договоренности с амерами, поэтому бомбер и летел без прикрытия. Газета.ру пишет что Путин в интерью сказал что с амерами была договоренность. Кароч, наебали в очередной раз, как с расширением НАТО и базами в Германии
Стратеги, кстати, летели с прикрытием через Европу. У бриттов хватило ума не задействовать ПВО

just a punk 11-24-2015 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20645211)
Rebels are saying that he was like that when they found him...

Wrong again. They said they were shooting at them and one was killed. He has landed dead. Don't forget it happened on the Syrian territory which is controlled by terrorist groups supported by Turkey and USA (NATO) - in fact, the same guys who did the Paris massacre.

Sarn 11-24-2015 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20645296)
This is not about religion. This is about money as usually. Turks are buying oil from ISIS in Syria. When Russian aviation started bombing the oil tracks, Turks shot down our bomber. This proves a direct economical connection between ISIS and Turkey.

Europe sends money in Turkey(erdogan) to stop the flow of refugees(business blackmail).
erdogan work and help isis(oil weapon bissiness) - isis terror ru,eu + neighbors.
erdogan on plans to become oil and gas hub for Europe.

Barry-xlovecam 11-24-2015 06:37 AM

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The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed that one of its jets, a Sukhoi SU-24, had crashed in Syria but said it had been downed “presumably as a result of shelling from the ground.”

The Russian Defense Ministry also asserted that, “The plane stayed exclusively above the territory of Syria throughout the entire flight,” and said that the two pilots had ejected.
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Last week, Turkey summoned the Russian ambassador, Andrey G. Karlov, to discuss Ankara’s concerns over the bombing of Turkmen villages in northern Syria and called for an immediate end to the Russian military operation close to the Turkish border, according to a Turkish Foreign Ministry statement.

“It was stressed that the Russian side’s actions were not a fight against terror, but they bombed civilian Turkmen villages and this could lead to serious consequences,” the statement said.

Ankara has long called for the protection of Turkmens, who are of Turkish descent, in Syria
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/wo...ary-plane.html

The Kremlin ought to get their stories straight ...

Quote:

Putin said the Russian SU-24 jet was shot by a missile from a Turkish jet over Syria about 1 kilometer (just over a half-mile) away from the Turkish border, which he described as a "stab in the back by the terrorists' accomplices."

Putin warned that the incident would have "significant consequences" for its relations with Turkey and criticized Ankara for turning to NATO to discuss the incident instead of first explaining to Russia what happened.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015...he-latest.html

You should have stayed away and thrown Assad under the bus.

Question is: was this a rogue pilot that violated Turkish airspace during hostile actions or was the pilot acting under ''direct orders''?

The Islamic Terrorist State (ISIS) forces were not at the Turkish border -- the pilots came down over anti-Syrian Government rebel positions and were shot dead by these rebels -- they had been dropping bombs on these rebels -- so what do you expect?

This isn't a Nintendo game:helpme

Sarn 11-24-2015 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20645296)
Надо было. Вова же сказал, что "считал Турцию другом и никто не ждал удара в спину". Теперь ясен пень будут сопровождать и работать по турецкой авиации. Турки закроют Босфор и понесется. Они ведь уже обосрались и связались со Штатами по поводу военной поддержки в случае конфликта с Россией.

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Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20645306)
Не соглашусь, наверняка были договоренности с амерами, поэтому бомбер и летел без прикрытия. Газета.ру пишет что Путин в интерью сказал что с амерами была договоренность. Кароч, наебали в очередной раз, как с расширением НАТО и базами в Германии
Стратеги, кстати, летели с прикрытием через Европу. У бриттов хватило ума не задействовать ПВО

Не ждал блять :1orglaugh в какую спину, что вы несете? очередное распиздяйство военных

ZiggiZiggiCrew 11-24-2015 06:45 AM

USA must control own sattelites as Turkey

just a punk 11-24-2015 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sarn (Post 20645348)
Не ждал блять :1orglaugh в какую спину, что вы несете? очередное распиздяйство военных

Это не "мы". Это дословная цитата из Вовиного выступления.

directfiesta 11-24-2015 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 20645122)
And that is who Turkey is backing.. :(

No, those are the '' moderate '' rebels, the '' non-islamic'' forces that thew US is backing, financing and arming ...

Heck of a job :thumbsup

Penny24Seven 11-24-2015 06:51 AM

Fiddy downed planes

ZiggiZiggiCrew 11-24-2015 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sarn (Post 20645348)
Не ждал блять :1orglaugh в какую спину, что вы несете? очередное распиздяйство военных

Ну, при Сталине растреляли бы, конечно, нахуй командование операцией, а к Эрдогану чела с лелорубом заслали. Ну так не при Сталине живем, чуть што не так, так Путен хуйло.

directfiesta 11-24-2015 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 20645129)
Obviously a lot of info is unknown. However my early thoughts are that Putin keeps pushing and pushing with very little regard for borders or others. He was bound to eventually get punched in the mouth. Oh well.

lol .... coming from a guy living in a country ( and his allies ) that actually violates Syria`s airspace daily ...

The russians were not bombing in Turkey ( if they ever were in that airspace ) ... So it is open season on any Israeli planes to be shot down over Syria ( they do daily filghts, as well as over Lebanon ) ....

just a punk 11-24-2015 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ziggiziggicrew (Post 20645359)
Ну, при Сталине растреляли бы, конечно, нахуй командование операцией, а к Эрдогану чела с лелорубом заслали. Ну так не при Сталине живем, чуть што не так, так Путен хуйло.

Ну а кто он по факту-то? Нам война в Сирии нахрен не нужна была. Че этот старый мразматик туда полез?

Sarn 11-24-2015 07:01 AM

necessary to support the Kurds

be kyrdistan!:2 cents:

https://gmablogdotorg.files.wordpres.../kurdistan.gif

Sarn 11-24-2015 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberseo (Post 20645366)
Ну а кто он по факту-то? Нам война в Сирии нахрен не нужна была. Че этот старый мразматик туда полез?

соберись тряпка не ной

directfiesta 11-24-2015 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20645337)
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/wo...ary-plane.html

The Kremlin ought to get their stories straight ...



http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015...he-latest.html

You should have stayed away and thrown Assad under the bus.

Question is: was this a rogue pilot that violated Turkish airspace during hostile actions or was the pilot acting under ''direct orders''?

The Islamic Terrorist State (ISIS) forces were not at the Turkish border -- the pilots came down over anti-Syrian Government rebel positions and were shot dead by these rebels -- they had been dropping bombs on these rebels -- so what do you expect?

This isn't a Nintendo game:helpme

time to flush ....

just a punk 11-24-2015 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sarn (Post 20645371)
соберись тряпка не ной

А кто ноет? Я говорю, что гандон твой Путен.

NewNick 11-24-2015 07:07 AM

Bah - false flag you sheep.

EddyTheDog 11-24-2015 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20645307)
Wrong again. They said they were shooting at them and one was killed. He has landed dead. Don't forget it happened on the Syrian territory which is controlled by terrorist groups supported by Turkey and USA (NATO) - in fact, the same guys who did the Paris massacre.

Not wrong, yet - Different sources are saying different things - We will find out soon I expect...

ZiggiZiggiCrew 11-24-2015 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20645366)
Ну а кто он по факту-то? Нам война в Сирии нахрен не нужна была. Че этот старый мразматик туда полез?

Хуясее ты не раздупляешь геополитику...а нефтепровод из Катара в Европу, а база в Срелиземном море, а "своих не сдаем", а пиздатые отношения с Ираном (одновременно не давая ему усилиться до критической массы в регионе). Весь смысл в Сирии, она не сегодня-завтра в состав РФ попросится. Кстати, если интересуешься трудами Фоменко-Носовского, то Sur это Rus при обратном прочтении, а арабы пишут не слева направо, а справо налево. Так што Сирия это и есть исконная Русь-матушка:winkwink:

kkkkkk 11-24-2015 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20645074)
It's a really bad thing right?.....

Well that depends if you see Turkey for the terrorist loving haven that it is, or as a respectable non duplicitous NATO country intent on freedom and security for us all.

TampaToker 11-24-2015 07:24 AM

Never ending cycle for fuel resources :2 cents:

Sarn 11-24-2015 07:26 AM




need save of Kurds from the Turkish genocide
the story of the Armenian genocide is repeated with Kurds

Barry-xlovecam 11-24-2015 07:31 AM

Turkey would thank you if you Russians attacked the Kurds ...

Question: If there were hostile governments making overflights of Crimea to attack at 3rd country --- what would you Russians do?

Cry at the UN? :1orglaugh

This whole thing is about advance airbases on foreign soil the USA's in Turkey and the Russian Federation's in Syria. Nobody really gives a shit about the Turkish or the Assad governments -- they are a major pain in the ass.

The Turks are pissed because the USA destroyed 288 oil tankers on the road to Turkey the other day -- they ran out of bombs and bullets and had to return to base to reload. So, the next day Turkey bitch slaps Russia ... This is getting like a 3 Stooges comedy short -- except we are using real missiles, bombs and bullets.

Sarn 11-24-2015 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20645399)
Turkey would thank you if you Russians attacked the Kurds ...

Question: If there were hostile governments making overflights of Crimea to attack at 3rd country --- what would you Russians do?

Cry at the UN? :1orglaugh

This whole thing is about advance airbases on foreign soil the USA's in Turkey and the Russian Federation's in Syria. Nobody really gives a shit about the Turkish or the Assad governments -- they are a major pain in the ass.

The Turks are pissed because the USA destroyed 288 oil tankers on the road to Turkey the other day -- they ran out of bombs and bullets and had to return to base to reload. So, the next day Turkey bitch slaps Russia ... This is getting like a 3 Stooges comedy short -- except we are using real missiles, bombs and bullets.

we can repeat
https://pp.vk.me/c630429/v630429344/...AdBhyoTQw8.jpg

ZiggiZiggiCrew 11-24-2015 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sarn (Post 20645397)



need save of kurds from the turkish genocide
the story of the armenian genocide is repeated with kurds

турки не ответили за геноцид армян в 1913...куда, блядь, смотрит прогрессивная апчественность?

kkkkkk 11-24-2015 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 20645403)

please do repeat

Google Expert 11-24-2015 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20645173)
Turkey is basking ISIS. This is not a news for everybody. I predict very serious consequences for Turkey. If they lose Russian tourists, their economics will lose a shitload of money. The Egypt has already faced it:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-etJ6Z7m2og...0%B5%D1%82.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/andre...3_original.jpg

Turkey's textile trade brings in $15B per year, as opposed to $400M of tourist money.

Where are your Natashka prostitutes going to work now? :1orglaugh

Also, without the perpetually drunk russian savages populating all the resorts, normal civilized people would consider visiting Turkey now.

Sarn 11-24-2015 07:38 AM

Constantinople must be a Christian and not a Muslim
http://www.allaboutturkey.com/img/ot...mpire-1580.gif
need assfuked againe

Yanks_Todd 11-24-2015 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20645364)
lol .... coming from a guy living in a country ( and his allies ) that actually violates Syria`s airspace daily ...

The russians were not bombing in Turkey ( if they ever were in that airspace ) ... So it is open season on any Israeli planes to be shot down over Syria ( they do daily filghts, as well as over Lebanon ) ....

I actually live in Spain. But my current location on GFY is Seattle, so I get it. However what I said in my quote gives you no insight as to my thoughts on the U.S. actions in Syria. Assume what you want though. :thumbsup

Google Expert 11-24-2015 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20645193)
The weird thing is that Russia are saying it wasn't Turkey at all and it was rebels - Why would Turkey claim responsibility if they didn't do it - It makes no sense, they know the shit will hit the fan...

Because Putiput is pissing his pants right now and wont do shit, just like back when he didn't do anything when a US sub had torpedoed Kursk.

EddyTheDog 11-24-2015 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Muad'Dib (Post 20645417)
Because Putiput is pissing his pants right now and wont do shit, just like back when he didn't do anything when a US sub had torpedoed Kursk.


They have changed the story now - Not for the last time in this latest drama I expect...

femdomdestiny 11-24-2015 07:49 AM

That airplane was not threat to Turkey, we all know that. Turkey is helping ISIS for years, as loyal American ally and it is,after Saudi Arabia, most responsible for war in Syria.

This is just a confirmation that they are terrorist supporters. Anyway, Russians must respond brutally, otherwise they will be pussies and will loose their credibility. I guess smartest thing would be to launch rockets and destroy Turkey military and their capability to fly. Turks can't respond, only one who can respond in their name is USA , by bombing Russia. We all know where that ends.

Long term, Ruskies will support Kurds probably and create Kurdistan, Turkey stop to exist and can easily end in terror , and they will loose money from tourists. Not only Russian tourists but also no one normal would go to such problematic country.

Personally, I would nuke that part of Turkey with a pleasure. No one would help them and NATO would fall apart because it is useless.

Rochard 11-24-2015 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20645238)
http://i.imgur.com/C0fL1nb.png

They shot them down for that?!.

I would have thought Turkey shot down the plane in Turkish airspace, not after it had left Turkish airspace.

just a punk 11-24-2015 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20645389)
Хуясее ты не раздупляешь геополитику...а нефтепровод из Катара в Европу

Это наш нефтепровод?

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Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20645389)
а база в Срелиземном море

Два сарая и 3 с половиной человека персонала это не база.

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Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20645389)
а "своих не сдаем"

С каких пор грязножопый Ассад стал нам своим?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20645389)
а пиздатые отношения с Ираном (одновременно не давая ему усилиться до критической массы в регионе).

А нафига нам Иран? У нас и своих исламистов до жопы.

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Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20645389)
Весь смысл в Сирии, она не сегодня-завтра в состав РФ попросится.

Во-первых, никто никуда не попросится. Во-вторых, у нас че, земли мало? Уалком то Сайбериа - там на тысячи киллометров ни одной живой души.

Yanks_Todd 11-24-2015 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20645426)
I would have thought Turkey shot down the plane in Turkish airspace, not after it had left Turkish airspace.

Yeah, that seems a bit problematic. It would seem to have credibility the entire warning to downing needs to take place in your Air space.

just a punk 11-24-2015 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20645424)
They have changed the story now - Not for the last time in this latest drama I expect...

Which exactly "story" are you talking about? The story presented by BBC? Russian news haven't reported that. As I said in my morning post, there was no story that the plane was hit from the ground. They just considered it, because the army bombers fly on the low attitude and they are easy targets for surface-to-air missiles.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20645426)
I would have thought Turkey shot down the plane in Turkish airspace, not after it had left Turkish airspace.

No, they did it in the Syrian sky. Nobody can say for sure is it has crossed the Turkish border before of that, but we are surly know it was hit over Syria and fell at Syrian territory too.

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20645425)
This is just a confirmation that they are terrorist supporters. Anyway, Russians must respond brutally, otherwise they will be pussies and will loose their credibility. I guess smartest thing would be to launch rockets and destroy Turkey military and their capability to fly. Turks can't respond, only one who can respond in their name is USA , by bombing Russia. We all know where that ends.

As about the possible full-scale war. I'll tell you small secret: Russia can destroy Turkey on 70% or so within about 30 minutes using tactical nukes only. The problem is that Turkey is a NATO ally and we have a lot of Russian tourists there.

P.S. Everybody knows how Georgia has ended up when it attacked the Russian forces in 2008. Even w/o nukes and with lesser ground forces.

EddyTheDog 11-24-2015 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20645434)
No, they did it in the Syrian sky. Nobody can say for sure is it has crossed the Turkish border before of that, but we are surly know it was hit over Syria and fell at Syrian territory too.

That's what he said - You always do this, read everything twice FFS...

ITraffic 11-24-2015 08:05 AM

get your WW3 links up.


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