Turkey = NATO = USA
USA support ISIS? What's wrong in my logic?

Reports are that both Pilots are dead.

Не соглашусь, наверняка были договоренности с амерами, поэтому бомбер и летел без прикрытия. Газета.ру пишет что Путин в интерью сказал что с амерами была договоренность. Кароч, наебали в очередной раз, как с расширением НАТО и базами в Германии
Стратеги, кстати, летели с прикрытием через Европу. У бриттов хватило ума не задействовать ПВО

Wrong again. They said they were shooting at them and one was killed. He has landed dead. Don't forget it happened on the Syrian territory which is controlled by terrorist groups supported by Turkey and USA (NATO) - in fact, the same guys who did the Paris massacre.

Europe sends money in Turkey(erdogan) to stop the flow of refugees(business blackmail).
erdogan work and help isis(oil weapon bissiness) - isis terror ru,eu + neighbors.
erdogan on plans to become oil and gas hub for Europe.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/wo...ary-plane.html

The Kremlin ought to get their stories straight ...

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015...he-latest.html

You should have stayed away and thrown Assad under the bus.

Question is: was this a rogue pilot that violated Turkish airspace during hostile actions or was the pilot acting under ''direct orders''?

The Islamic Terrorist State (ISIS) forces were not at the Turkish border -- the pilots came down over anti-Syrian Government rebel positions and were shot dead by these rebels -- they had been dropping bombs on these rebels -- so what do you expect?

This isn't a Nintendo game:helpme

Не ждал блять :1orglaugh в какую спину, что вы несете? очередное распиздяйство военных

USA must control own sattelites as Turkey

Это не "мы". Это дословная цитата из Вовиного выступления.

No, those are the '' moderate '' rebels, the '' non-islamic'' forces that thew US is backing, financing and arming ...

Heck of a job :thumbsup

Fiddy downed planes

Ну, при Сталине растреляли бы, конечно, нахуй командование операцией, а к Эрдогану чела с лелорубом заслали. Ну так не при Сталине живем, чуть што не так, так Путен хуйло.

lol .... coming from a guy living in a country ( and his allies ) that actually violates Syria`s airspace daily ...

The russians were not bombing in Turkey ( if they ever were in that airspace ) ... So it is open season on any Israeli planes to be shot down over Syria ( they do daily filghts, as well as over Lebanon ) ....

Ну а кто он по факту-то? Нам война в Сирии нахрен не нужна была. Че этот старый мразматик туда полез?

necessary to support the Kurds

be kyrdistan!:2 cents:

https://gmablogdotorg.files.wordpres.../kurdistan.gif

соберись тряпка не ной

time to flush ....

А кто ноет? Я говорю, что гандон твой Путен.

Bah - false flag you sheep.

Not wrong, yet - Different sources are saying different things - We will find out soon I expect...

Хуясее ты не раздупляешь геополитику...а нефтепровод из Катара в Европу, а база в Срелиземном море, а "своих не сдаем", а пиздатые отношения с Ираном (одновременно не давая ему усилиться до критической массы в регионе). Весь смысл в Сирии, она не сегодня-завтра в состав РФ попросится. Кстати, если интересуешься трудами Фоменко-Носовского, то Sur это Rus при обратном прочтении, а арабы пишут не слева направо, а справо налево. Так што Сирия это и есть исконная Русь-матушка:winkwink:

Well that depends if you see Turkey for the terrorist loving haven that it is, or as a respectable non duplicitous NATO country intent on freedom and security for us all.

Never ending cycle for fuel resources :2 cents:

need save of Kurds from the Turkish genocide
the story of the Armenian genocide is repeated with Kurds

Turkey would thank you if you Russians attacked the Kurds ...

Question: If there were hostile governments making overflights of Crimea to attack at 3rd country --- what would you Russians do?

Cry at the UN? :1orglaugh

This whole thing is about advance airbases on foreign soil the USA's in Turkey and the Russian Federation's in Syria. Nobody really gives a shit about the Turkish or the Assad governments -- they are a major pain in the ass.

The Turks are pissed because the USA destroyed 288 oil tankers on the road to Turkey the other day -- they ran out of bombs and bullets and had to return to base to reload. So, the next day Turkey bitch slaps Russia ... This is getting like a 3 Stooges comedy short -- except we are using real missiles, bombs and bullets.

we can repeat
https://pp.vk.me/c630429/v630429344/...AdBhyoTQw8.jpg

турки не ответили за геноцид армян в 1913...куда, блядь, смотрит прогрессивная апчественность?

please do repeat

Turkey's textile trade brings in $15B per year, as opposed to $400M of tourist money.

Where are your Natashka prostitutes going to work now? :1orglaugh

Also, without the perpetually drunk russian savages populating all the resorts, normal civilized people would consider visiting Turkey now.

Constantinople must be a Christian and not a Muslim
http://www.allaboutturkey.com/img/ot...mpire-1580.gif
need assfuked againe

I actually live in Spain. But my current location on GFY is Seattle, so I get it. However what I said in my quote gives you no insight as to my thoughts on the U.S. actions in Syria. Assume what you want though. :thumbsup

Because Putiput is pissing his pants right now and wont do shit, just like back when he didn't do anything when a US sub had torpedoed Kursk.

They have changed the story now - Not for the last time in this latest drama I expect...

That airplane was not threat to Turkey, we all know that. Turkey is helping ISIS for years, as loyal American ally and it is,after Saudi Arabia, most responsible for war in Syria.

This is just a confirmation that they are terrorist supporters. Anyway, Russians must respond brutally, otherwise they will be pussies and will loose their credibility. I guess smartest thing would be to launch rockets and destroy Turkey military and their capability to fly. Turks can't respond, only one who can respond in their name is USA , by bombing Russia. We all know where that ends.

Long term, Ruskies will support Kurds probably and create Kurdistan, Turkey stop to exist and can easily end in terror , and they will loose money from tourists. Not only Russian tourists but also no one normal would go to such problematic country.

Personally, I would nuke that part of Turkey with a pleasure. No one would help them and NATO would fall apart because it is useless.

I would have thought Turkey shot down the plane in Turkish airspace, not after it had left Turkish airspace.

Это наш нефтепровод?

Два сарая и 3 с половиной человека персонала это не база.

С каких пор грязножопый Ассад стал нам своим?

А нафига нам Иран? У нас и своих исламистов до жопы.

Во-первых, никто никуда не попросится. Во-вторых, у нас че, земли мало? Уалком то Сайбериа - там на тысячи киллометров ни одной живой души.

Yeah, that seems a bit problematic. It would seem to have credibility the entire warning to downing needs to take place in your Air space.

Which exactly "story" are you talking about? The story presented by BBC? Russian news haven't reported that. As I said in my morning post, there was no story that the plane was hit from the ground. They just considered it, because the army bombers fly on the low attitude and they are easy targets for surface-to-air missiles.

No, they did it in the Syrian sky. Nobody can say for sure is it has crossed the Turkish border before of that, but we are surly know it was hit over Syria and fell at Syrian territory too.

As about the possible full-scale war. I'll tell you small secret: Russia can destroy Turkey on 70% or so within about 30 minutes using tactical nukes only. The problem is that Turkey is a NATO ally and we have a lot of Russian tourists there.

P.S. Everybody knows how Georgia has ended up when it attacked the Russian forces in 2008. Even w/o nukes and with lesser ground forces.

That's what he said - You always do this, read everything twice FFS...

get your WW3 links up.