200 James Deen Jew dudes allegedly raping porn whores... gigggity

I can't tell if he's a shitty troll or he has Aspergers :2 cents:

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Joanna Angel on SiriusSM in half an hour if you want to listen in. (James Deen topic). she?s going in to the Jason Ellis studio at 1pm PST. Strange choice of venues as he?s a shock jock, be she?s friends with him?..
SiriusXM Channel 41

So just to clarify. If you are going at it hot and heavy and she says, "No. Stop. Get off me." You feel free to continue for how long before you have done something wrong? I think your defense of this guy has made her case. Add in that is was a predetermined safe word that they had set up together and he looks guilty as hell without any evidence at all.
And a heads up to help you never be in the same situation, the answer is about 10 seconds. Any longer and you are committing a felony. Maybe they can't convict you on it but that is what you are doing.
If you were just trolling the whole time, my bad.

Colin, what did Joanna say/reveal about James?

I only know through hearsay so I can't say for sure, but if in fact Bonnie, Stoya, Joanna, the others that have come forward, etc. are all friends and if there is some sort of coordinated attempt to profit from this situation either through gaining notoriety or profiting monetarily, it would be one helluva sad and sick way to do it and certainly a disservice to all victims of rape.

However, Deen more likely than not brought this on himself because something like that wouldn't happen because they all like him so much.

The Salem Witch Trials had plenty of witnesses with no reason to make anything up. From an evidentiary standpoint, that by itself is not enough. The idea that people want to have a 'guilt or innocence' discussion via twitter and for-profit media outlets is stupefying.

Whether you 'think' someone is guilty or not is unimportant. Whether they are guilty and whether they can be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is what matters. That's why we don't have a judicial system based solely upon the question of 'are there any witnesses without an obvious reason to make this up'....

I have no idea if he is or is not guilty of anything. I find it increasingly annoying that so many people are willing to pretend they know without a shred of evidence being presented or an actual trial taking place. We aren't talking about whether someone farted or not... we are talking about a life-altering criminal act (for the accuser and the accused) and it deserves to be given a whole lot more factual inspection than it has been given so far.

At this point, I hope EITHER James Deen or Stoya end up in prison. Either he did it and belongs there, or he didn't and her actions are sufficient to earn her a trip somewhere involuntarily. Th severity of these accusations are not being given anywhere near the amount of investigation they deserve.... whether 100 people on twitter say he is awful or 100 people on twitter say he is a great guy is damn near irrelevant. If they have something to say, they ought to be saying it in court under oath.

I doubt there is a coordinated attempt to mislead for profit, but if that were ever proven, it's likely grounds for a RICO case... :2 cents:

Agree 100% but have to say... the discussion and speculation in the adult industry is a good conversation to have regardless of either party being innocent or guilty. While none of us were witnesses to the events, we are all now victims of its consequences as a spotlight on the industry. For that reason, people should keep talking about it, even if that involves sitting in the court of public opinion and not privy to any evidence, factual or consequential.

That's easy to say when you aren't being used as the example in every post. Im all for a discussion of what No means, or of the difficulties performers face and so on... but when it becomes posts of "I heard this specific person is awful' or "I heard this specific person is a saint' - that is counterproductive and goes against the entire purpose our legal system is intended to serve. :2 cents:

Just because the circus comes to town, that doesn't mean we all need to rush out and buy red noses or floppy red shoes... :2 cents:

It is crazy for web warriors to take sides in this very serious issue.

I know you're confused because while I don't doubt you have reasonable intellect, you have situation comprehension skills even when it's laid out to you in black and white.

So let's agree to disagree and go fuck ourselves independently.

Together or separately? LOL

does james deen love rape?

Porn actress Nicki Blue alleges James Dean sexually assaulted her with horrific acts - in an off-camera attack at a wrap party* | Daily Mail Online

'As he was doing it ? this is the embarrassing part and why I didn't say anything ? he said "oh my God, I have to go to the bathroom" and he p***** in my mouth.

'Then after that, he had the idea of putting the beer bottle up my a**. So that was done.'

Joanna Angel Opens Up About James Deen?s Alleged Abuse: ?He Really Is a Scary Person? - The Daily Beast

She also remembered waking up on numerous occasions to find Deen on top of her. ?More than once I woke up to him choking me in his sleep? He really is a scary person.?

Yikes. Is this going to be what everyone is going to be talking about in January? I hope not :/

Welcome back ...

My thoughts exactly. Six years to figure out he is bad. Yeah, right.

Ashley Fires (or whatever the name was) - didn't she claim he "raped / molested / whatever" on SET? Wouldn't that mean it would be easy to get a proof video?

http://i.imgur.com/eo921vz.png

Frikkin hilarious

I do not know her, but I would question any accusation by anyone that suggested someone else belongs in jail. There is a massive gap between 'blaming the victim' and 'requiring evidence.' Saying "you are claiming someone deserves to lose their freedom and their career, can you prove any of this?" is very different from saying "Well, what were you wearing at the time?"

Some people do not seem to understand the severity of rape while others seem not to understand the severity of unproven accusations. :2 cents:

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How do you guys know there is no police report? You are just assuming that is the case. No where did Stoya ever say she did not file a police report.

I guess I didn't think that all the way through! I love it when things end civilly

is this some joke or this woman knows something?

You know that or are you guessing? Ive hung with her and hubby a few times and she struck me as very level headed person.
There is no benefit for these girls to come out. He is famous in our little world but in the real world he is no one. So there is no book deal or speaking tour. Listen to Joanna angels interview and then tell me its bullshit.

Sadly I dont think if a porn star went to the police, they would be taken seriously.

You can tell dude gets off slapping and chocking bitches. I wouldnt be surprised if he was a rapist.

More Porn Performers Speak Out Against James Deen

Lily LaBeau, who has performed with Deen several times, told Vocativ about an incident in which Deen hit her in the face so hard her jaw locked. She called it “the most traumatic thing that’s happened to me in my career.”

A lot. For 90 minutes.
I did an audio capture of it and have sent in a request to the radio station for permission to re-publish. Just waiting back to hear from them...

If that's the case, keeping that a secret while posting other things on Twitter about the incident is a mistake. Your use of my name on your hate blog and in your first post of this thread is also a mistake. Perhaps one day you'll gain clarity about that.

meh, he is just a colorful text loving faggot :1orglaugh

a triple negative snark. fancy.

Actually I do too, and it is heavier since I am a family guy with two daughters...

About the violence vs sexuality on mainstream TV: this made me remember how awesome movie is the 'People vs Larry Flynt' by Milos Forman, with Woody Harrelson. :pimp

Mark, you're a Great Man and from week to week I realize we have a lot in common.

I've known Ashley Fires and her husband Jack Kona for years, and have known about what James did in the Kink communal shower to her for a long time now. She is a far cry from an attention seeker and just doing the right thing by coming out with her personal story.

Between her account, and the Joanna Angel (another outstanding and sensible woman in adult businesswoman) interview, it's pretty telling that some inappropriate things have gone on. I support both of them for stepping up to the plate and going public with their experiences in this train wreck.

This is a very well written story that gives the other side. And who ever wrote it is a vet and knows both sides of the story. I know this because I was around when Chico was shooting James and crazy scenes and I have never seen anything from James that would seem unprofessional or witnessed any type of rape.


And to add I have know James since the day he started. Been friends with him and worked with him too many time I can't count. I have shot him for rough scenes and vanilla scenes. I have video footage of all talent signing in and signing out with very detailed questions about what the scene is going to be about. I even take one step further(Thank GOD!), I do a 3rd video clip with with with the girls "Dos and Donts" Super detailed usually about 15 minutes long. Me and the male performer ask everything!! I mean everything!! I also have on video girls asking James to pee on them and choke them unconscious. I not a fan of either. Not my thing. Im always in shock with what I hear girls asking for.

One thing you will always see with James and my Vanilla Scenes and My rough scenes: You watch the scene and you watch the video "Dos and Donts" you never see the performer cross that girls personal "Dos and Donts"!

"Donts" are as simple as: Don't put a finger in my pussy, you can slap my boobs, but don't pinch them, Please Don't rub my penciled in eyebrows, my left knee hurts, I cant do doggie on my knees, but i and do standing Doggie, Don't kiss me, No fingers in my butt, Please no lube, only spit, No spit only water based lube, please only use silicone based lube, Don't call me a cunt, don't call me a whore, etc...


As little as some of these are, I respect both female and male talent enough to ask all talent and to document it all so there is never a misunderstanding on set. This is also the best way to get talents trust and get there bast scenes.


I not here to say this or that. I am just sharing my experiences and work flow.


It seems that twitter drama is the new hey look at me I'm on the "Porn Box Cover".


Check this link below out. Its the other side that everyone has been waiting for.



Industry Vet Gives His Thoughts On James Deen As Well As Deen?s Accusers UPDATED



If James "Actually" raped someone, I'm the 1st person to go hang him. But twitter posts from and ex girlfriend with no police report is very suspect.


Just Dave

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But he looks sooooo cute...

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:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh well played!

The photos on her own tumblr blog don't even match up with the story.

why it took that long? why all the girls had to wait for some ex whore to go out with the rape? and why there are no proofs, if that happened on the scene, there must have been other at least five people who have been watching the scene, and there have to be a proof on the video that have been filmed, or nope? i do not know, i see it like old ex whore trying to get some money and the other whores just jumped the train ... :2 cents: