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weedy 12-02-2015 04:29 PM

Thanks for correction, still improve my english.
The name of the bank is Volksbank (not connected to Volkswagen :))

The Porn Nerd 12-02-2015 04:35 PM

Germany is going through some EU tax overhauls and it's the end of the year so maybe this has something to do with it? International wires CAN be tricky. They go through an intermediary bank (usually in the US) but the problem is usually on the receiving bank's end.

jscott 12-02-2015 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20652742)
So how much was the wire?

Why do people have to ask this. The amount is irrelevant to the topic.

It's like when sponsors don't pay. People ask, "how much?", $1 or $100000, they are , or they are not paying is the issue.

Anyways, Jane hope ya'll can get this situation fixed with ccbill

jscott 12-02-2015 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20653783)
Why hasn't CCBill gone to ACH? Everyone else has been doing it for years.

I've always wondered this too. Ccbill is based in USA and ACH would be FREE and nearly instant for all American clients/affiliates, Ccbill, could you please get ACH?

Verotel is Euro based and even they have ACH :thumbsup

fitzmulti 12-02-2015 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 20654768)
I've always wondered this too. Ccbill is based in USA and ACH would be FREE and nearly instant for all American clients/affiliates, Ccbill, could you please get ACH?

Verotel is Euro based and even they have ACH :thumbsup

Agreed! :thumbsup

m26004 12-03-2015 01:27 AM

Missing 3 weeks of payments from them now.. seems this is not an isolated problem.

Ferus 12-03-2015 02:14 AM

Jane. You have some of the best content in europe,but you always come across as a desperat amateur. You should consider hiring someone with better management skills, and you could focus on what you do best. It would generate a bigger profit and less enemies

Coup 12-03-2015 02:25 AM

fucked up if true, OP.

JasonCollins 12-03-2015 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane-Busty.pl (Post 20653898)
Thank You Jason, Verotel is on our short list now. :-)

Drop me a mail and at the least, I can prepare you an offer. I will also be in Vegas if you would like to meet during interNext?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 20654768)
Verotel is Euro based and even they have ACH :thumbsup

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Harmik 12-07-2015 12:22 PM

Jane,
if you need help, setting up an account with Epoch, please reach out to me, I am there almost at all times.

We can help you in many ways.

PornDude 12-07-2015 12:45 PM

I also didn't get a payment in November.

On the top, my friend told me that CCBill (their bank) charged back a payment he got from them months ago via wire!

He even sent me original swift request and this is looking very, very fucked up situation.

Can anybody from CCBill explain what is going on?

Fat Panda 12-07-2015 01:06 PM

looks like this issue is spreading? no comment from ccbill?

NOT GOOD

BigFurry 12-07-2015 01:11 PM

Well I asked CCBILL support last week, just out of curiosity.

What they said is that only one bank is affected, and if the last payments arrived to us, we shouldn't be concerned.

Would be nice if they gave an official response here though, explaining the situation.

Due 12-07-2015 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PikaPoka (Post 20659902)
I also didn't get a payment in November.

On the top, my friend told me that CCBill (their bank) charged back a payment he got from them months ago via wire!

He even sent me original swift request and this is looking very, very fucked up situation.

Can anybody from CCBill explain what is going on?

Bullshit there is no way you can charge back a wire transfer.

cfU 12-07-2015 01:15 PM

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OneHungLo 12-07-2015 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 20659935)
Bullshit there is no way you can charge back a wire transfer.

It can if the funds haven't been dispersed and there is fraud :2 cents:

Harmon 12-07-2015 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 20659935)
Bullshit there is no way you can charge back a wire transfer.

Pigshit.

The only available options for reversing a completed transfer are if the sending bank made a mistake, if the payment order was a duplicate of a previous order, or if the order is for an amount greater than the beneficiary was entitled to receive under the transfer. In those cases, the beneficiary's bank will recover the funds improperly paid to the beneficiary. I have had PLENTY of double deposits (mistakenly done by the payer) that one of them was reversed.

Thankfully it has never taken me into the negative because I don't live off of pennies and food stamps so its never a big deal. I also monitor my bank accounts very closely so I see when it happens and usually I have already been contacted that the error was made.

2MuchMark 12-07-2015 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 20659935)
Bullshit there is no way you can charge back a wire transfer.

Yes there is. Your are your banks customer and if your reason for a chargeback is valid they will work with you to recover the funds.

dyna mo 12-07-2015 01:34 PM

Pursuant to the Universal Commercial Code Article 4A, once credited to the final account, a wire transfer cannot be reversed for any reason.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/4A

The Porn Nerd 12-07-2015 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 20654767)
Why do people have to ask this. The amount is irrelevant to the topic.

It's like when sponsors don't pay. People ask, "how much?", $1 or $100000, they are , or they are not paying is the issue.

Anyways, Jane hope ya'll can get this situation fixed with ccbill

I totally agree. My question had more to do with the OP's hysterical tone. If it was for $352 then I would say she is way too hysterical. Make that amount $32,532 and it makes more sense (and may actually indicate CCBill is having financial problems).

So it does matter. Not in terms of whether or not it should be paid (of course it should be) but as to other aspects.

Due 12-07-2015 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20659958)
Yes there is. Your are your banks customer and if your reason for a chargeback is valid they will work with you to recover the funds.

I had a bank that duplicated a wire transfer before, it was going from our main company to our payroll company. I notified the bank when I saw they took the money twice and they immediately returned the money for the second wire.

On the receiving account both transfers arrived, after a few days the bank contacted me and said they have gotten a request to return one of the transfers, they wanted to know if they could return it or not. If I had said no the money would have stayed in the account, even though it was an obvious mistake, the bank confirmed that to me

Don't confuse "refunds" with "chargebacks" :2 cents:

trevesty 12-07-2015 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 20659935)
Bullshit there is no way you can charge back a wire transfer.

That's what I was thinking. The funds won't be sent if they don't exist in the first place. If there was an error with putting the information in, it can be sent back, but that's about it.

Due 12-07-2015 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20659981)
I totally agree. My question had more to do with the OP's hysterical tone. If it was for $352 then I would say she is way too hysterical. Make that amount $32,532 and it makes more sense (and may actually indicate CCBill is having financial problems).

So it does matter. Not in terms of whether or not it should be paid (of course it should be) but as to other aspects.

Any amounts regardless of size should always be paid, it's a matter of principle. With that said, someone making $50K per pay period probably have a way better understanding of what can go wrong and how to handle it over someone who makes $500 per pay period.

Harmon 12-07-2015 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 20659984)
I had a bank that duplicated a wire transfer before, it was going from our main company to our payroll company. I notified the bank when I saw they took the money twice and they immediately returned the money for the second wire.

On the receiving account both transfers arrived, after a few days the bank contacted me and said they have gotten a request to return one of the transfers, they wanted to know if they could return it or not. If I had said no the money would have stayed in the account, even though it was an obvious mistake, the bank confirmed that to me

Don't confuse "refunds" with "chargebacks" :2 cents:

That's where I think the OP went wrong. He used wrong verbiage

CandidHotties 12-07-2015 01:56 PM

Got my Verotel payout today..just like last week, last month last year..never had any troubles with them.Every Monday payments are sent . got them in my bank account in the same day ( usually) or sometimes the next day afternoon. Maybe you should try them on too

PornDude 12-07-2015 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PikaPoka (Post 20659902)
I also didn't get a payment in November.

On the top, my friend told me that CCBill (their bank) charged back a payment he got from them months ago via wire!

He even sent me original swift request and this is looking very, very fucked up situation.

Can anybody from CCBill explain what is going on?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 20659935)
Bullshit there is no way you can charge back a wire transfer.

You call it bullshit, I will attach you a document now.

Check here: take.ms/i6RQn

You still think it's bullshit?

Harmon 12-07-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PikaPoka (Post 20660092)
You call it bullshit, I will attach you a document now.

Check here: take.ms/i6RQn

You still think it's bullshit?

ATTN INVESTIGATIONS

DUE TO COMPLIANCE ISSUE

See: Learn the compliance lessons from an epic fail in correspondent banking and trade finance

It means it's suspicious. Get it? There are 3 of you in the thread?

Take the hint. :2 cents:

PornDude 12-07-2015 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20660117)
ATTN INVESTIGATIONS

DUE TO COMPLIANCE ISSUE

See: Learn the compliance lessons from an epic fail in correspondent banking and trade finance

It means it's suspicious. Get it? There are 3 of you in the thread?

Take the hint. :2 cents:

What point again is suspicious? Suddenly you became a bank expert? He was getting payments from CCBill for over 5 years and randomly 2 of them get request to be sent back? And next payments came in normally like always.

I don't need a fake nick on GFY if this is what you are asking.

Harmon 12-07-2015 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PikaPoka (Post 20660130)
I don't need a fake nick on GFY if this is what you are asking.

What? You mad or something bruh?

3 people got denied payments. Nobody else did. Are you kidding? I am not saying this isn't a serious issue. I'm saying that it's isolated. Should Cave Creek answer? Yes. Just defining it.

Take a pill, kiddo.

PornDude 12-07-2015 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20660137)
What? You mad or something bruh?

3 people got denied payments. Nobody else did. Are you kidding? I am not saying this isn't a serious issue. I'm saying that it's isolated. Should Cave Creek answer? Yes. Just defining it.

Take a pill, kiddo.

Indeed you don't have problems.

Because you can't sell your gfy signature on CCBill and this is pretty much only money you make in adult business.

JasonCollins 12-08-2015 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CandidHotties (Post 20660002)
Got my Verotel payout today..just like last week, last month last year..never had any troubles with them.Every Monday payments are sent . got them in my bank account in the same day ( usually) or sometimes the next day afternoon. Maybe you should try them on too

Payouts on time since 1997 and still going strong! :pimp:2 cents:

Harmon 12-08-2015 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PikaPoka (Post 20660145)
Indeed you don't have problems.

Because you can't sell your gfy signature on CCBill and this is pretty much only money you make in adult business.

A) I don't have a signature, you mental fucking midget.

B) Yeah. I'm broke. Have never made a dime. :1orglaugh

You seriously have to be one of the dumbest mother fuckers to ever grace this board. I really hope your scamming ass doesn't get paid and your entire family goes hungry for the holidays. You fucking piece of dogshit. :2 cents:

jscott 12-08-2015 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonCollins (Post 20660534)
Payouts on time since 1997 and still going strong! :pimp:2 cents:

I can confirm this :thumbsup

sojproductions 12-08-2015 04:27 AM

We had a payment go missing from the 9th November from CCBill, it took a while to get to the bottom of (received payment after about 3 weeks), eventually we were told it was stopped for fraud checks (confirmed by our receiving bank), and verification paperwork was submitted outside of the deadline and the money was returned to ccbill, once it was returned ccbill were great and went out of their way to make sure it was sent to us that day, we spoke over the phone daily until it was sorted out.

At no point was I ever worried that we would not get paid. We've worked with CCBill for 12 years and this has happened a few times for different reasons and it always ended well. The biggest problem is that when the money gets stopped no one knows where to look or where the money is so it always takes a little while to get to the bottom of.

BigFurry 12-08-2015 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sojproductions (Post 20660614)
We had a payment go missing from the 9th November from CCBill, it took a while to get to the bottom of (received payment after about 3 weeks), eventually we were told it was stopped for fraud checks (confirmed by our receiving bank), and verification paperwork was submitted outside of the deadline and the money was returned to ccbill, once it was returned ccbill were great and went out of their way to make sure it was sent to us that day, we spoke over the phone daily until it was sorted out.

At no point was I ever worried that we would not get paid. We've worked with CCBill for 12 years and this has happened a few times for different reasons and it always ended well. The biggest problem is that when the money gets stopped no one knows where to look or where the money is so it always takes a little while to get to the bottom of.

Thanks. This aligns with the previous information.

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedy (Post 20654396)
Today I was talking with one of my business costumers using CCBill. He received a phone call from his bank. They told him that the german state supervision of banking was inform the bank, all wires from ccbill will be freezed for some time. My costumer asked for the reason: It is confidential, they told.:eek7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20660117)
ATTN INVESTIGATIONS

DUE TO COMPLIANCE ISSUE

See: Learn the compliance lessons from an epic fail in correspondent banking and trade finance

It means it's suspicious. Get it? There are 3 of you in the thread?

Take the hint. :2 cents:

My guess is that someone in Europe got suspicious about all the CCBILL wires coming in to random persons and companies, and they wanted to investigate and make sure it's not fraud/money laundering/etc.

I'm not worried either now. :-)

PornDude 12-08-2015 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20660570)
A) I don't have a signature, you mental fucking midget.

B) Yeah. I'm broke. Have never made a dime. :1orglaugh

You seriously have to be one of the dumbest mother fuckers to ever grace this board. I really hope your scamming ass doesn't get paid and your entire family goes hungry for the holidays. You fucking piece of dogshit. :2 cents:

You are dumb gfy clown posting fake Adsense earnings and stolen pictures of gay fitness models pretending to be you.

C) You are ugly and broke :1orglaugh

pornmasta 12-08-2015 08:23 AM

more i check my affiliates stats with ccbill and more i Wonder if they really accept transactions... seriously

NickBaer 12-08-2015 10:10 AM

Most others pay me by ACH. Amazon. AEBN. HotMovies. A few use PayPal. I hate CCBill Wires. Wires cost $15 to send and $15 to receive. ACH is free. Payoneer is $2-$5 per load. If I recall, Paxum is $5 to withdraw, or less if you pay annually for the card.

bizgoddess69 12-08-2015 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20660808)
more i check my affiliates stats with ccbill and more i Wonder if they really accept transactions... seriously


Check your Approval Declines Report - I am pretty certain that report will show plenty of Activity for recent periods.

If this report is not showing up in your stats contact the fraudulent/risk department and see if they can enable these stats to show on your panel.

Your welcome friend:thumbsup

Due 12-08-2015 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PikaPoka (Post 20660092)
You call it bullshit, I will attach you a document now.

Check here: take.ms/i6RQn

You still think it's bullshit?

That doesn't appear to be a chargeback, its a compliance issue.
Either the beneficiary, the sender, the receiving bank, the country the receiver is located in or an intermediate bank was most likely sanctioned to some extend by the US government.

Normal people can't revert wire transfers. The US Government can't do it neither, but if the bank doesn't comply they will loose the right to perform transactions in USD, so banks normally comply with their "request".


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