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L-Pink 12-10-2015 03:19 PM
50 votes for Trump !!!

Robbie 12-10-2015 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20664592)
unfortunately for that panel, it doesn't work that way. the delegate election process can boil down to local districts within states, there's virtually no way the RNC can set delegate election guidelines at the national level
They said on the panel that they would do it on the floor of the Republican Convention when delegates are supposed to be pledged.

dyna mo 12-10-2015 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20664604)
They said on the panel that they would do it on the floor of the Republican Convention when delegates are supposed to be pledged.
outrageous to claim that's how the party would handle it.

i'm no fan of the RNC, but i find that to be a lot of conjecture. the onus is on the delegate to vote the way of his/her district, not to toe the RNC line. that panel is assuming 100s of delegates would flip flop after getting strongarmed by the party leaders at pledge time.

Barry-xlovecam 12-10-2015 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20664524)
The law already exists since 1952. There would be no need to pass a law that is already there.

And it would only be a TEMPORARY thing to allow the govt. to get serious about this problem.

Many people feel that the Obama Administration hasn't taken this seriously enough ("Isis is the JV team", won't even say "Islamic Terrorists", too much political correctness, etc.)

I think the argument is that if Trump took office he is much tougher than Obama and would put a moratorium in place temporarily and get the security system up to speed and then open it up again.
Don't quote one line of my post and evade answering the questions posed with rhetoric.

When I visited the UK, France, The Netherlands, Greece, Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania and Canada the customs officer didn't require I pass some religious test to be granted a visa. Did you ever consider there might be reciprocation? Maybe, you don't travel or see what the USA looks like to the rest of the world or even give a shit.

The McCarran-Walter Act, 1952 makes no stipulation for temporary or permanent exclusion of visa applicants by religious ''class''.

Code:
barry@[]:~/Documents/path$ html2text american_history_documents_ii.html
|grep --color=always  -in "religious\|faith\|worship"|more
123:(D) an alien crewman serving in good faith
as such in any capacity required for
232:carrying on the vocation of minister of a relig
ious denomination, and whose
233:services are needed by such religious denom
ination having a bona fide
237:of the United States Government abroad, and who has perf
ormed faithful service
979:officer that such application is made in good f
aith and has a substantial
barry@deathstar8:~/Documents/meme-urls$
American History Documents II
U.S. Immigration Legislation: 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act (McCarran-Walter Act)
Spare me the bullshit pleaseeeee ...

Rochard 12-10-2015 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20664482)
Muslims are 100% at fault for terrorist actions. Name me one single non-Muslim jihadist that has committed a terrorist act. Ever. You can't. Guns aren't to blame for mass shootings, the people pulling the trigger is. The last time I checked, a gun didn't get hopped up on meds, walk into a mall, and start shooting people. Guns are inanimate objects that require human interaction. Muslims, aka Islam is a belief system that is a virus, moving from one host to another with it's only purpose is wreaking havoc on the host system. Name one beneficial thing Muslims have done for the world? I mean in the entire history of Islam, name one thing other than maybe the Eastern Architecture of the Ottoman Empire, and even that is ugly and gaudy.

Following YOUR logic, we should temporarily stop all car sales to investigate why so many people die from accidents. We should ban prescription drugs to investigate why there are so many overdoses and cases of addiction. We should ban alcohol to investigate why so many people drive while drinking. We should ban stoves, lighters, gasoline, matches, or anything else that could possibly cause a fire until we investigate why all these wildfires occur, and why so many people die in house fires or arson? Oh, and ban deep fryers until we can investigate why so many people blow themselves up trying to deep fry them.

See how ridiculous that sounds?
I agree. The problem isn't Muslims, the problem is terrorists.

Timothy McVeigh was a US Vet and killed nearly two hundred people. Does this mean we should not allow US Vets back into the United States? What about that guy who shot up that school? Should we start denying Christians permission to enter the country because they might shoot up schools? About the teenagers in at the Columbine shooting - should we stop allowing teenagers into the country?

JJ Gold 12-10-2015 04:39 PM
If Trump has no shot of beating Hillary then Democrats should vote for him in Open Primaries.

Everyone..from MSNBC to Fox News to our own resident Braintrust of **********+Crockett is completely freaked out because they know Trump is real and they know Trump can win.

Enjoy the show. It's just getting started.

bronco67 12-10-2015 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20664561)
Then why are the democrats so afraid of him?



I heard that, going to get interesting



Under President Obama, Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats.

So I wouldn't hold your breathe princess!
Democrats aren't afraid of him.

I would LOVE to see Trump make it all the way to the end, just for the entertainment value alone -- but it's not going to happen. Do you understand that intelligent people are in no way threatened by a blowhard demagogue who spews fear baiting, non-factual nonsense? He's a fucking joke, and anyone who likes him is also a joke.

Vendzilla 12-10-2015 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20664668)
Democrats aren't afraid of him.

I would LOVE to see Trump make it all the way to the end, just for the entertainment value alone -- but it's not going to happen. Do you understand that intelligent people are in no way threatened by a blowhard demagogue who spews fear baiting, non-factual nonsense? He's a fucking joke, and anyone who likes him is also a joke.
LOL, you know intelligent people?

If he wasn't a threat, Obama , Hillary and Bernie wouldn't bring him up. I learned this when I asked the COO of Coca Cola why they never bashed Pepsi. The answer made sense, why acknowledge number 2?

So yes, democrats are afraid of him, they don't know how to attack a candidate that when every time they do, his numbers get better!

RandyRandy 12-10-2015 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20664279)

Keeping in mind that the man who did this was an American citizen born in the United States... .. My wife is Italian and Lebanese. She was born in the United States.
So if your wife was born in the United States (like Trump), wouldn't that make her a US citizen? With Italian and Lebanese heritage?

Robbie 12-10-2015 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20664668)
Democrats aren't afraid of him.

I would LOVE to see Trump make it all the way to the end, just for the entertainment value alone -- but it's not going to happen. Do you understand that intelligent people are in no way threatened by a blowhard demagogue who spews fear baiting, non-factual nonsense? He's a fucking joke, and anyone who likes him is also a joke.
Let me repeat this again since you might not have caught it the first time:

MSNBC (you know the VERY liberal news channel) reported yesterday that the majority of Trump's supporters are MODERATES.

By the way, the tone of your posts make YOU sound like someone who is a "blowhard demagogue spewing fear baiting, non-factual nonsense."

Just saying, your posts (as usual) have a very bitter and angry tone to them. Calm down and discuss things a bit. No need to get all personal with people about it.

And by the way...nobody ever said that normal people are threatened by Trump in any way at all. Why would they be?

The folks who are threatened by Trump are the big campaign donors who own all of the other candidates, the DNC and the RNC, and the media who are bought and paid for.

crockett 12-10-2015 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20664567)
pure rhetoric. even the National Abortion Federation considers it a civil rights matter
Planned Parenthood openly called it a terrorist attack.. You are a fool if you think otherwise..

Rob 12-10-2015 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20664754)
The folks who are threatened by Trump are the big campaign donors who own all of the other candidates, the DNC and the RNC, and the media who are bought and paid for.
Bingo! Super donors have had politicians in their pockets for so long they wouldn't know how to act if/when someone who can't be bought took over. God forbid they actually have to start being accountable.

crockett 12-10-2015 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fitzmulti (Post 20664572)
Sorry if this was already discussed in this thread (I didn't read the whole thread)...

THe one thing that is pissing me off is - seeing all of these 'headlines' that "TRUMP THREATENS TO RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT" {or similar things}...
He did NOT do that, nothing 'threatening' not even close...
~~~~~~

He said an independent run was "highly unlikely" in an interview with CNN's Don Lemon on Wednesday, but declined to completely rule it out, calling the pledge a "two-way street."

"If they don't treat me with a certain amount of decorum and respect. If they don't treat me as the front-runner ... If the playing field is not level, then certainly all options are open," Trump said.

^^ that's not a 'threat'...
Umm hello..yes he certainly did give them a bit of a jab in the ribs. He didn't outright say he would run, but he sure as hell insinuated it and used that as a threat..

https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump...389951165725:0

"A new poll indicates that 68% of my supporters would vote for me if I departed the GOP & ran"

dyna mo 12-10-2015 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20664755)
Planned Parenthood openly called it a terrorist attack.. You are a fool if you think otherwise..
You're so full of shit it's staggering. They've gone out of their way to NOT call it a terrorist attack, simply calling it an attack.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases?ccm_paging_p

Rochard 12-10-2015 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20664181)
Wow, so everyone that thinks differently than you is an asshole, I wonder about you sometime. Watch the polls, he has a 20 point lead and has been in the lead for the long time.

Currently the U6 unemployment rate is 9.9 , people are tired of the same ole thing
The unemployment rate is 5%. Period.

noshit 12-10-2015 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20664795)
The unemployment rate is 5%. Period.
You have a sixth sense

Robbie 12-11-2015 12:01 AM
Why people insist on deflecting from the actual thread topic shows a lack of focus.

Having said that, here is the reality.
Labor force is at it's lowest in 38 years counting people of age to be in the labor force.

The govt.'s own statistics (they changed the way they do the unemployment rate a few years ago to stop counting people who give up on finding jobs):

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

http://data.bls.gov/generated_files/...d_M11_data.gif

The govt. is cooking the books on the unemployment rate by changing how they count it.
If they were counting it the way they always did from the beginning...the rate is double or more what they are claiming. There are over 93 MILLION people unemployed. That's not a good thing.

But again, this isn't a thread about the unemployment rate. It's about media bias.

Paul Markham 12-11-2015 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20664134)
What Trump actually said was the U.S. should have a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the U.S. until our representatives can figure out what's going on
Does that include his Muslim investors, partners, oil-rich sheiks, etc?

bronco67 12-11-2015 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20664795)
The unemployment rate is 5%. Period.
You have to remember...Republicans have their own set of facts.

Vendzilla 12-11-2015 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20665106)
You have to remember...Republicans have their own set of facts.
I'm a libertarian and I posted the U6 unemployment rate was 9.9 % which is correct, if you had half a brain, you would know that's correct.


Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization


Such a moron!

Vendzilla 12-11-2015 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20664795)
The unemployment rate is 5%. Period.
Under Obama, in his first term with a democrat controlled congress generated 1.3 million jobs
Under Obama , in his second term with a Republican controlled congress generated 7 million jobs.
That's a 8.3 million total. You think this is good?

The population when Obama took office in the US was 306.8 million people
Right now it's 322 million

so that's 15.2 million more people and only 8.2 million new jobs, where most of the growth has been in the service sector.

Remember that Obama started in the middle of a recession! Which means he started in a vacuum of jobs needed!

How can anyone think this is a good thing?

But it does show who is better for jobs in the US, the Republicans!

2MuchMark 12-11-2015 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20665322)
Under Obama, in his first term with a democrat controlled congress generated 1.3 million jobs
Under Obama , in his second term with a Republican controlled congress generated 7 million jobs.
That's a 8.3 million total. You think this is good?

The population when Obama took office in the US was 306.8 million people
Right now it's 322 million

so that's 15.2 million more people and only 8.2 million new jobs, where most of the growth has been in the service sector.

Remember that Obama started in the middle of a recession! Which means he started in a vacuum of jobs needed!

How can anyone think this is a good thing?

But it does show who is better for jobs in the US, the Republicans!

Of those 15.2 Million more people, each of them is between 1 day and 7 years old and hopefully, do not have jobs yet.

But regardless, the job creation rate could have been even higher if republicans worked with Obama instead of got in his way. Here's just a sample of what they did: Senate Republicans block Democrats' jobs bill | Reuters

RebelR 12-11-2015 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20665374)
Of those 15.2 Million more people, each of them is between 1 day and 7 years old and hopefully, do not have jobs yet.

But regardless, the job creation rate could have been even higher if republicans worked with Obama instead of got in his way. Here's just a sample of what they did: Senate Republicans block Democrats' jobs bill | Reuters
You are making an assumption that the increase came exclusively in the form of births. You have to make allowances for immigrants


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