Why are you letting them use your software? Is there not some clause somewhere stating that by using nats, they are not allowed to use it to defraud affiliates? Honestly, Ive always done shitty with most nats programs. Even though ccbill sales are not what they use to be, I use to make bank with them and pretty much all other non-nats programs. I'm not saying there is some kind of conspiracy, Im just saying.

From what I remember, programs rent nats, and I could have sworn that when I was looking at using it, I thought I read somewhere that using it to defraud affiliates was against the rules. Someone please correct me If I am wrong, but I think it was Rhinocash that got in trouble for using your software in an incorrect manner and got canned for it.

If its not a clause, it should be, because it doesn't make your software look good. :2 cents:

Several months have gone by, some messages answered saying "check is in the mail." Some requests, not answered at all.

Not to mention other mysterious shit that, quite frankly I am getting too tired of repeating.

Now you find a bunch of fraudulent accounts? Interesting.

That's pretty new in GFY Years :2 cents:

So you say that's okay that someone isn't paying for months and referring this to "NATS software issue"? You are literally covering fraudulent actions right now by not interfering. What you should do is to clearly state whether the issue continues for almost three months already or it has been fixed and everything should have been calculated and paid by now. If it's the latter, then you are indeed not to be blamed and we will solely solve this with the affiliate program holding the payments.

Nats has nothing to do with paying people... the program is responsible.

Unless that was a newly added feature at some point, fairly certain no.

That's obvious. Still, I assume that's reasonable enough to ask for confirmation whether the program owner is lying about your software or not. And that's to your benefit to dig to the bottom of it and sort this out if you are NATS.

There is no single other source of genuine information in this case.

I don't ...

Again, NATS helped us import refunds and charge backs and indeed we found several highly fraudulent accounts.

We received delayed reports from our processors (it always take a while for chargebacks to show up) once these arrived NATS helped us solve the problem within days and import them.

NATS has been nothing but great to and for us and the industry, most programs would not be where they are without them.

We are sorry for any delays this may have caused you, unfortunately there are a ton of fraudulent affiliates out there and without proper imports/refund imports they are getting harder and harder to detect.

If any programs want information about these fraudulent affiliates please contact me
( I am not going to post information as this will only further educate them trying to push fraud into programs )

Now that all has been solved, payouts are going out to all legit affiliates, lots of payouts have already been send out.

If you have check as payout option, they all have been send out.
Paxum has been send out, if you are missing a payout, please contact me
Wires are being processed as well.

I haven't received any notification of a payment. My last payment, is still marked "PAID" from several months ago, but I never received it. I would think that If a check got sent, that PAID date would or should be updated.

As far as I am concerned, this is still unresolved and just another excuse. Haven't seen one person post that they got their PAXUM, or received any notifications that payments have been sent.

My concern is that people that have complained publicly are going to somehow end up on your "fraudulent webmaster" list. I hope that isn't the case, but I received a private message from someone that sure didn't sound good.

It seems kind of strange that all these fraudulent webmasters suddenly appear when people start complaining publicly.

seems that they still are ;)

Payouts have been and are going out, please contact me with your username and all will be cleared up :thumbsup

Again, all legit affiliates will be paid.

I refuse to post how we caught certain fraudulent affiliates as that would only educate them.

Yes we are! just because someone is screaming on GFY, that does not mean that person is legit affiliate.

I will not get bullied into paying a fraudulent affiliate.

so far i remember he started to make threads how they are alive when i posted that better for theit business would be to come out from hiding so they came? maybe they can hire me as business person to tell them what to do, but i would never work for that company, not even as an affiliate, because there was so many ties to shit and scam and whoever say whatever, i will not change my opinion ... but it is just my own opinion of course ... have luck and nice weekend everyone :)

i could send tons of sales a day


but not to this company they can call you a scammer just not to pay you

looking for LEGIT teen sites

Let me rephrase that for you.

Just because someone is finally complaining on GFY after being giving the runaround for several months with no results, does not mean that person is NOT a legit affiliate.

With your comment, you sort of casted a wide reaching net there don't you think?

Let it be known to any, and all that read this, that my account with Teen Revenue is still active and the "check is in the mail" again. Hopefully it arrives and this thread can seep into GFY obscurity.

damn :Oh crap

Payserve.com Your reliable adult partner since 1996 has ClubSeventeen.com :thumbsup

Still haven't received payment. My ccbill checks only take 3 to 4 days to arrive.

I will not get bullied in sending traffic to galleries that are in error
You had all the time to fix it, but you are so busy here, busy in overlooking, busy in avoiding responsibilities, busy with checking every week your email, and busy with calling people a fraudulent, busy cleaning up your program mess that you serve with a big grin on your face to your affiliates. But you`re not busy at all it seems.

Do not hurt the hand that feeds you...

If you are the owner, you are lacking
If you`re a rep, you are a waste of salary.

contact Ben

Didn't help so far.

these dickheads never change man. fuck 'Ben' in the ass.. seriously why you guys still promote the cocksuckers?

Just trying to get the payments. Ben has already confirmed that our account wasn't marked fraudulent and everything should be paid, but no movement in this direction still - all the same postponing excuses.

money is on motion, don't you remember?:winkwink:

good luck on getting paid

interesting

What has it been? A little over 2 weeks now, and I still haven't found a check in my mailbox.

Ok, so, other affiliate programs have just stopped paying out. I remember back in the day when Mellisa Midwest's program said they were just going to stop paying affiliates, and there was outrage, but hey, at least they told you. They didn't continue to play games with you and lead you on thinking you were going to get paid so you would still send them traffic.

Here I am also calling out the enablers. Too Much Media and the Nats affiliate system.

I agree, what is going on is not fair

mate, read their signs... if they don't answer you then they don't want your biz anymore, don't waste your time, TR is officialy a dead program by now, those who you can trust before like Tampa Toker, Dwerck, madeleine, Evil Chris etc are gone now... TR was ok during the Paolo era, regular under Dee and poor now under Ben and the new shady owner

If I remember correctly TR started as a CC BILL program. I do have to say, back in the day, they were a very good program and I never had issues getting paid. This was before Deep took them over, can't say after that.

it's a shame to see good programs go bad like this, because they don't pay what they owe :2 cents:

Oh, I'm not expecting to be paid. There is a bunch of programs out there that are operating like this. What I am concerned with now is the fact that Too Much Media and Nats is allowing TR to continue to use their software. TMM even showed up in this thread, so they are aware of the situation, and at this point, don't seem to care.

I have other accounts that use Nats. If TMM is going to accept this kind of behavior from people using their software, what else are they going to accept?

Evil Chris? He showed up in this thread also and pretty much vouched for them, so is that really someone you can trust?

I have nothing but good things to say about teenrev

I guess you don't mind feeling like you belong to a bro club that is purposefully giving other affiliates the run around and not paying them what they are owed?

That is certainly something to be proud of.

Yeah I see your point about TMM, hope they take note of this. And about Chris he was a good guy back then, he resolved my issues, and now I just guess he still defends that ol'shirt

of course, you guys bowl in the same league.. fucking cocksuckers

- Paxum payouts have all gone out
- Wires have all gone out
- Checks seem to have delays, we are contracting webmasterchecks to help us pick up on this asap.
* Tons of them arrived already, some not yet

I see people posting in this thread that have obvious fraud accounts, once I have more time on my hands I will be exposing them on gfy.


Ben

Just stop with the threats. Expose the motherfuckers now and don't forget to show some fucking proof. Before you said you wouldn't be exposing "them," as to not educate them on how they were supposedly caught and how they did it. Good luck with exposing them and not showing proof.

So far that looks like just another sleazy fucking attempt to pull off this squeaky clean image and not pay people out.

6 fucking months man I have been working on trying to get paid out. Your PR work is shit. One fucking excuse after another.......for 6 fucking months.

Again, my account is still active. You've done nothing to resolve my issue, and if I somehow end up on your fraudulent list of webmasters, you can be assured you will hear from my lawyer. He is on retainer and works very closely with this industry.

Webmasterchecks huh? Interesting.....

I have no idea what your username is based on a GFY nick, if I told you your payouts are going out they will and if you can log into your teenrevenue account I am highly confident you have not been banned :thumbsup

Checks we have delays on unfortunately other than that payouts are going out rapidly.
How can I contact you if I dont know your username?