district 9 is your proposal?

again there are no fraudsters, the EU and USA took away their future by starting shit or colonization...being angry about consequences is silly...building walls will take the problem to other places, other places will suffer and get tired of your shit, and in the end you will have millions of people joining ISIS because its the only job around...

keep pretending that the refugees are the problem LOL they are the reaction to the problem...

want less refugees then walls will not help...not kissing US ass is a good start and denouncing US terrorism...practically every war since ww2 was started by the USA...

it's a security issue not the refugees. don't let them roam the country :2 cents::2 cents: set up secured tent cities with the stores inside them just like nascar does. first rape round up all of them and put them in fenced communities with military security :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

OP - basically it is because of people like Brasshat above.

They claim everything is racist, froth at the mouth screaming everyone is racist, the media grabs hold of it and everyone huddles in their bunkers hoping they don't get the finger pointed at them.

So when a bunch of rapist thugs criminals want to move in under the guise of being refugees, everyone lets it happen so they are not branded a racist.

I agree with the cause of recent upheavals. Yes the destabilization of so many countries in the name of fucking democracy etc. is directly responsible for this crap.
But, again, this thread is NOT about causes. I am asking why western countries have been letting in criminals, fraudsters, murderes and thugs from other countries while making it ever more difficult for educated people to migrate?
This is not something that started in 2015. Look at UK Canada and even USA - How so many bastards from same region/clan/families have ended up here citing filmsy bullshit reasons.
Does it take super human IQ to understand that a person fleeing war in Sri Lanka will obviously run to next neighbouring country or will he fly 20000 kms to a rich country with generous welfare $$ where thousands of his fellow fraudsters are already enjoying the "freedom"?

You certainly have a point, this political correctness has trounced moderate sane voices to a great extent. However in the end, the wrong choices WE make bite will one day bite WHOSE ass? Ours or those of the Chinese? It is beyond my understanding what does all these well wishers/ good hearted persons think - that the person who wasted his youth in studying and becoming highly talented should be strongly discouraged while opening doors to people who jet in across continents, flush passport at the airport and claim they are fleeing persecution?
And yet westerners don't understand it. What is it - A death wish? Achilles Heel of western civilization?

The UK has plans to teach 200,000 Muslim women to English. Also to make Muslim women remove their veil in court, to police, at immigration and other authorities. This is seen as oppressive towards Muslim woman by the PC Liberals.

While it's an established fact the terrorists use the message that Muslims don't "fit in", in the West to recruit.

If by being PC we allow them to isolate themselves, are we protecting them or us?

This is how biased the message being pumped at us is. All I hope is more right wing groups do well in elections.

Some say 7 million refugees more will come.....soon Germans will go Rambo mode!

the real question you should be asking is why is the EU sucking US foreign policy cock?...why are we not making the USA pay for the results of their failed foreign policy?...we should impose war tax on the USA...all US products/companies/citizens need to pay say 50% of everything they make in EU as "US defense budget tax"...

keep blaming the refugees, only more will come....keep healing cancer with cough medicine only more will be needed...solving the root of the problem will solve the problem...

war is too big to fail in the USA...we need to make warmongering non profitable by taxing the people who fund war inc = americans...we also need to send all the refugees to the USA...confiscate US planes and fill them with refugees and send them str8 to the USA...

as long as the EU takes proxy damage for US foreign policy things will never change..."100 beatings over somebody elses ass does not hurt at all" :2 cents: we must make americans responsible :2 cents::thumbsup

if you want to solve a problem, you do not go after the effect, you go after the cause...there is no way around this :2 cents:

Why in the world are we wasting our time in these waste lands? They have been living like rabid animals forever and it is not going to change. If we leave and terror groups set up camp, just bomb the life out of them...

if you go far enough West you get to the East again

Fiddy westerners who live in the East and were born in the North but eat like in the South.

We agree on something... Not sure if this is good or bad.

you do have a point but are mixing two issues. The current refugee flood in EU is caused by what you are talking about.
But the issue I am talking about has been going for more than 25 years

If anyone has doubt about how dumb westerners are, please check the following news snippet......so called refugees stoning vehicles on highway so that they can hitch a ride when vehicles slow down !!
Calais migrants displaced, forced to move deeper into camp | Fox News

I don't blame the fraudsters, they are doing what they have learnt in life.
But what about the westerners?
For Pete's sake why cant they understand and see that these assholes are simply trying to move from one rich country to the more richer?
Why are Westerners still shedding crocodile tears for such blatant in your face criminality?
Someone please tell me W H Y ???

How do you suggest we get rid of Islam?

In the 12th Century Protestantism emerged, it was ruthlessly crushed until the 16th Century. It took a lot of wars before Christianity was able to progress peacefully with different ways to worship.

The split in Islam started in 632 AD, it split along tribal and national lines. And the killing began. With one sect trying to kill the other sect and take their possessions. Saladin, a Sunni Kurd, their great warrior king who fought against the Crusaders. Spent a lot of his time killing Shia Muslims. Also, he was more afraid of being assassinated by a Muslim that a Crusader.

Research of the Ottoman Empire also reveals how they use terror as a means of control.

Of course, the original use of the Jihad was not for fighting the West or Christians. It was to spread Islam at the point of a sword.

After the invasion of Iraq, the Muslims were unable to sit around a table and talk things through. They resorted to killing.

This isn't about a few individuals, or Nations leaders ordering a regular army into battle. It's about people who believe the other side of their faith deserves to die because they worship differently. The leaders just use that belief and the promise of a place in Heaven if they die.

Which takes us back to Christianity and the emergence of Protestantism and the way it was crushed by one side killing the other on the promise of a place in heaven.

what I am talking about has been going on since ww2...more than half a century of US foreign policy and centuries of colonization before this...

it is time to pay for what the US and our forefathers did...is it fair? fuck no...but people have every right to flee from injustice just like the refugees are doing...they have no moral obligation to stay and die, because the US feels like bombing the world left and right...no obligation to fight US bullshit whilst the EU licks the US foreign policy asshole...

you would do EXACTLY the same in their shoes...its not fair to call them fraudsters IMO

next time honest honest bill clinton, or bush or some other member of the US corporate dynasty wants to start a war, you hit the streets in protest and make your government take its tongue out of filthy US asshole...fight for the right to keep your country safe from US bullshit...


Islam has nothing to do with it...nothing at all...I base this on the fact that I have been in many muslim countries, lived in one for 2 years (lybia) and have stayed for longer periods of time in several...also spent 13 years of my life living in 5 other european countries and met many muslims...

there are billions of muslims and if islam preached hate, the world would be a very very different place...

islam has as much to do with terrorism as US bombs have to do with liberation and democracy...

this is more of a case of people feeling the need to gargle the medias islamophobia dildo...the truth does not sell...but FEAR does...

"ISLAM IS OUT TO GET YOU, SHARIAH IN EU!" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fucking sells like hot cakes :thumbsup

That led to the colonization era by Europe. Think about that one for a bit :1orglaugh

Nobody ever comes back from heaven or hell except in the movies ...

Yes indeed. But I am not asking why asylum shoppers are doing it
I am asking
why are westerners so fucking dumb as to not see the writing on the wall?
Lets focus on above question only, Please

As little to do with it as the European Nations expanding Empires under the guise of spreading Christianity.

Religion is the galvanising force that makes people go into unnecessary wars to expand the wallets of a few. And yes Islam does preach hate and spreading Islam by war.

Blaming the West is implying Muslims are unable to stop themselves from killing each other. Much like the tribal atrocities the World over. It's something very basic within us to hate a stranger. And for uss to want to extend their powers, using that instinct.

Yes and colonisation of the world. It starts with the head religious ponchos thinking they can get a seat in heaven, by killing non-believers. Then the non-believers become people who want to worship the same god, messiah but in a slightly different way. The religious wars in Europe are a clear sign of how it works. Even as recent as 1935 Germany waged war on German Jews.

War isn't anything new, doesn't need the West or US to make people start killing each other. They're just a great excuse. It's an age-old culture.

War is as old as time: Cambridge University researchers unveil massacred bodies dating back 10,000 years | Africa | News | The Independent

Once we realise this, we can deal with stopping it.

because ISIS is the only job in syria at the moment...or the other side...because iraq and iran are next...after that saudi will fall...no oil for EU...chaos...collapse of economy...

you would join ISIS too if you had starvation as the other choice...

you just want to cure the cold without treating the cancer...immediate gratification...kick the can down the road for some other generation to solve...

closing boarders and turning our head away from the problem is not a solution...



this is a complete lie...1/4 of humanity is muslim and if this was even remotely true the world would look much different...oh and its a complete lie LOL...if you feel the need to believe that islam preaches hate go right ahead and believe it...all I know is 99% of the worlds terror attacks are done by christians...and by terror attacks I mean US army...

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Well anyone else care to explain to me why westerners are in this shitty "business" of refugees even though it is crystal clear to rest of the world that the so called refugees are economic opportunists, criminals fleeing justice and queue jumpers most of the time??
Anyone????

Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are severe against the disbelievers and merciful among themselvesâ?¦ (48:29)

And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way to triumph over believers [Pickthall â?? â??any way of successâ?�] (4:141)

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (9:29 Jizya is the money that non-Muslims must pay to their Muslim overlords in a pure Islamic state.)

Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)
Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".


Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Do you need more proof?

Of course, if you say it's not Islam. then it has to be the people who claim it as their religion. You certainly hate America. How about Jews, Christians, and Hindus?

Are you Sunni or Shia?

The greatest thing about the Internet is the knowledge it distributes. Someone can say Islam preaches hate. The, Google it to see the truth.

Ok lets take your same logic and use it in another way.. Refugees have committed rapes in hosting countries, therefore all refugees (or most) are dangerous rapists.

It's an extreme but so was your example, but broken logic all the same. I don't think flooding any country with people of extremely different cultures is a good idea either but claiming they are all horrible evil people is just an ignorant step that is unnecessary to prove a point.

It will get much worse in 2016 and Donald Trump will win a landslide victory as a result.

I guess this board is roaring when it comes to "them" but dead quite when it comes to "us"

Glenn statistical evidence shows Muslims are 4 times more likely to break the law including sex crimes.

Google

Rape, in Western terms, is part of their culture. And the evidence proves many turn a blind eye to engaging in these activities.

Can we get back to the topic please?
This thread is not about muslims or anyone else.
It is about WESTERNERS

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Because the refugees are black or brown and Westerners are fed a ton of guilt. Add these;

Black and Brown countries are so fucked up they can't look after themselves. White countries can.

Can you imagine refugees from America, Australia, Canada, etc?

The EU passed a law to make it legal for a poor unemployed Bulgarian, Romanian, etc. To move from a poor benefits system to a better one.

Somewhere, somehow, the government is making money on it. I just haven't figured out how, but eventually it will come out.

Since my partner & I moved to Spain, we have thought about movement of people a lot!

I know a different situation, alas, the area of Torrevieja where we now reside, 15 years past, was the capital of the Spanish tourists. A lovely area full of Spaniards. Now 15 yrs later, the area has been over built with British shops, Irish bars & other nationality restaurants. The area where I live is probably 60% British, which is not something I moved to Spain for.

Have the British people living here created an area like in the UK full of Muslims, Hindu's, like areas of Luton, London, Birmingham, Indians or Pakistanis areas that some British folk moan about?

I know for fact, it is different here in Spain. The people that move to Spain want to & do all work & support themselves!

We, my partner & I have moved from the UK where we was earning up to 18k a year & still having our home of 1k a month, our home tax & £400 a month of 'working mans tax credit' coming into our home, to enjoy living on. This is a usual standard income when you have a child. We didn't con or beg, it is & was given because that's the UK. Now here in Spain, we support ourselves with no extra benefits, we need to have our own medical insurance & much more. Alas, we love living here, it's fun, enjoyable & so nice all year around!

Live where you want, but get a job & earn your own income. Allow refugees into a country, give them help, they didn't ask to be born in a war torn country. But help them get a job & support your country & themselves! :2 cents:

Maybe waiting for nothing left in those countries, so they can take them & drain them.... oil, resources, rock, earth?

Dumb as fuck.they will get almost free ppl for work

paul LOL you just quoted random shit, like if I was to take snippets from the christian bible and claim all christians are so and so...you went on to call it proof...

if islam preached hate, and islam is 1/4 of the world, the world would be a very different place...go to your local mosque and ask if islam really hates infidels etc...

I am not muslim, I come from ex-yugoslavia, I am christian by heritage but an atheist and believe in batman more than I do in god, because batman is a more plausible story than virgin mary LOL

you are free to keep believing islam hates you, you are all digging your own grave LOL I am moving to south or central america soon, have fun with your imaginary enemies and try not to focus on real problems like the USA war mongers but rather try to blame shit on people who have lost everything and are running from violence :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I do understand your guilt theory, never thought of it before.
Okay black/brown get sympathy but then how come highly talented black/browns stand absolutely no chance for immigration even though they are ready to prove themselves, will assimilate without any problems or tax payers' $$$ and will be an asset to the nation they decide to settle in?

Allow refugees but don't allow talented, highly educated, westernized people?
"they didn't ask to be born in a war torn country." But they are the ones who are fighting in the first place.
So we should award people who fight and can not learn to settle their differences peacefully?
Lets bring them here so that they never get to learn what made western civilization what it is today but rather let them retain their culture and carry on their 18th century ways?

You are mostly right but forgot to add one little point - people who have lost everything and are running from violence TO RICH COUNTRIES OF THEIR CHOICE, sometimes over thousands of kms away
Right?
There are no other countries in between for these poor souls?
After all Australia is just across Indian Ocean from Sri Lanka
Western Europe is right next to Syria and Pakistan

I didn't mention not allowing talented or highly educated people into any country, so I don't understand why you've said that & the whole country are not fighting, maybe first, people should stop stereo typing :2 cents: