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Barry-xlovecam 01-27-2016 03:53 PM

Maybe it is better said: "a rotten chicken for every stinkpot" :2 cents:

noshit 01-27-2016 04:09 PM

Get the Fuck out of here with your politics Redcoat.
You represent the same insanely power-hungry redcoat traitors who once tried to disarm, enslave and rule over colonial America.

So Trump is in; and you're out. Deal with it :2 cents:

L-Pink 01-27-2016 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by noshit (Post 20712732)
Get the Fuck out of here with your politics Redcoat.
You represent the same insanely power-hungry redcoat traitors who once tried to disarm, enslave and rule over colonial America.

So Trump is in; and you're out. Deal with it :2 cents:


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :thumbsup

dyna mo 01-27-2016 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 20712697)
That analogy likely works really well when aimed at those lacking either the intellect, time or desire to consider it's validity. It's a nice little catchy 'soundbite' for a talking head to blurt out in interrupting another talking head while attempting to gain 'control' of a 'conversation' and cause drooling viewers to focus on his face for a few flighting seconds at which point some other talking head will attempt to successfully repeat the very same process. Seems like it would also work well as 'click bait'. So nice work if you're the one who actually came up with it as it does have some value. :thumbsup

Unfortunately it's flawed as achievements should be measured relative to goals.

When Trump got his money his goal was to make a splash doing real estate in Manhattan and beyond.

I don't know much about Blizerian but from what I gather it's entirely possible that becoming 'internet famous' and fucking as many Instagram hookers as humanly possible were two of his primary goals.

You can judge their goals all you want but the fact is both have been extremely successful relative to their goals, maybe even equally, so the analogy is total bullshit. Sorry.

cool speech but wrong.

nowhere at any point ever did i claim bilzerians accomplishments are not in line with his goals. the point i did make is one hires strippers and posts pics of them on instagram, the other is running for POTUS.

jimmycooper 01-27-2016 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20712745)
cool speech but wrong.

nowhere at any point ever did i claim bilzerians accomplishments are not in line with his goals. the point i did make is one hires strippers and posts pics of them on instagram, the other is running for POTUS.

it was implicit.

I mean surely something caused you to write the post, right?

could it have been the fact that 4 of the 6 previous posts had discussed Trump's inheritance? maybe not but if you can't see how it would be reasonable to assume that most people would believe otherwise and think it was in reference to what i said it was then you need to work on your communication skills.

Paul Markham 01-28-2016 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20712053)
I am beginning to think that Donald Trump just wants your vote and will tell every voting block he wants to vote for him what they want to hear.

An angry chicken for every disillusioned voter's cooking pot.

Some of his statements and proposed policies are so audacious or ludicrous I think I am watching a sitcom on TV with The Donald in the starring role.

Trump and Cruz are just saying whet the audience wants to hear. An audience too dumb to think.

One scream he will send in the troops to kick ass. Isn't whet they did in Afghanistan, Iraq twice and Libya? So what's the plan after tow two week invasion and $100 billion dollars plus lives lost?

The other screams he will carpet bomb ISIS. For every member of ISIS, that will kill 10-20 innocent civilians who are likely to become terrorists.

One screams he will stop Muslims entering the US. Does that include EU born Muslims? And how does he tell who is a Muslim?

Paul Markham 01-28-2016 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20712343)
Actually his father was rich, and more importantly he had connections <-----huge huge advantage

trump "got rich" by being a puppet son, his father even bailed out his casino-s by buying chips and not cashing them in...

what you said about trump using illegal imigrants and fucking over everybody he could is true...its just that he did not get rich, he got born rich...

Then he went bankrupt and was only saved because he was too big to fail. Even his claimed wealth isn't as big as people think. He's in debt up to his neck and should he hurt the 1% who stay at his hotels and buy his expensive goods. He goes broke.

And he was the first "Too big to fail." In fact he has said that if you borrow a lot, the debt becomes the banks problems.

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In order to avoid having to file for bankruptcy, Trump met with four of his major lenders: Citibank, Bankers Trust, Chase Manhattan Bank and Manufacturers Hanover, and told the banks that if they foreclosed on his properties they, too, would lose tremendous amounts of money. By his own lights, Trump was too big to fail. In the end, he convinced the banks to loan him an additional $65 million, which he'd use to keep his businesses afloat. The banks also agreed to defer, for five years, the interest and principal payments on Trump's outstanding loans. As Trump would say, â??â??It came out that the banks really liked me a lot and they respected me and they respected what I had done.â??â??

Read more: How Donald Trump Survived Near Bankruptcy | Investopedia How Donald Trump Survived Near Bankruptcy | Investopedia
Sound familiar?

Paul Markham 01-28-2016 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 20712394)
Trump polls well for 3 reasons:

A lot of people like his non-political-correctness approach.

A lot of people (surprise surprise) are also very 'no shit' in their attitudes on a wide range of issues, thus they feel akin to Trump's like-minded direct take on things.

And lastly, a lot of people actually LIKE the idea of Trump's wall, one that keeps out illegals and forces them to enter the country legally or not at all.
Trump's the only one taking these hard line stances, and even people who don't really like him are buying in because, well, he's the only one taking those stances. The rest of the pack on the Republican side are all taking softer more tactful approaches, some trying to appease the religious right, others trying to make basically everyone happy. Trump doesn't give a shit about making "everyone" happy. He's all about eliminating everything he sees as nonsense and BS out there, which as I've said is something that appeals to a great many Republican voters.

Absolutely. Yet these are the people they have been voting for, for the last 50 years.

The Wall is just one issue the voters can't see beyond the soundbite. There's a far easier way to stop people coming into any country. Take away all financial benefits and hit those supporting illegal migrants with huge fines and/or prison.

Sending in troops, imports from the Third World, bringing jobs back to the US, etc. Are all great sound bites. Has he spelt out how he will do it and the after effects, such as prices in the shops doubling or trebling?

Paul Markham 01-28-2016 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20712430)
he's done 100s of big deals and made big mistakes along the way and kept going.

As President he makes mistakes, you suffer.

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Trump is one example of the American dream.
If you're Daddy's very,very rich it is. It's not for you though. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 01-28-2016 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20713124)
Quote:

Trump is one example of the American dream.
If you're Daddy's very,very rich it is. It's not for you though. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And that says it all.

When a European sees dirt poor farmers in the Midwest scream adulation for a far right business owned politician who is so reliant on businesses to fund them. We are amazed, confused, bewildered. In Europe the political divide is very firmly based on income, poorer blue collar workers vote Left, better off white collar workers vote Right. Simply because they know where their best interests lie.

Blaming the politicians for being no good, is missing the point. Millions vote for them.

We have an organisation that's set on turning Europe into a Federal State and there has been no EU wide referendum.

The US system is so cast in stone, no one without $millions can get into office.

These aren't democracies Lincoln would have been proud of. As for the UK, we have been trying to get away from an elitist ruling class for centuries, now sleepwalking into an new one.

Finally, for now, what happens in the US has huge effects on this industry and the world. I have every right to comment. I never comment on the way Togo runs its affairs.

bronco67 01-28-2016 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 20712697)
That analogy likely works really well when aimed at those lacking either the intellect, time or desire to consider it's validity. It's a nice little catchy 'soundbite' for a talking head to blurt out in interrupting another talking head while attempting to gain 'control' of a 'conversation' and cause drooling viewers to focus on his face for a few flighting seconds at which point some other talking head will attempt to successfully repeat the very same process. Seems like it would also work well as 'click bait'. So nice work if you're the one who actually came up with it as it does have some value. :thumbsup

Unfortunately it's flawed as achievements should be measured relative to goals.

When Trump got his money his goal was to make a splash doing real estate in Manhattan and beyond.

I don't know much about Blizerian but from what I gather it's entirely possible that becoming 'internet famous' and fucking as many Instagram hookers as humanly possible were two of his primary goals.

You can judge their goals all you want but the fact is both have been extremely successful relative to their goals, maybe even equally, so the analogy is total bullshit. Sorry.

Honestly...Dan Blizerian's life is the more desirable achievement. Who doesn't want to just have sex with beautiful girls, whether you paid them to or not?

dyna mo 01-28-2016 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 20712769)
it was implicit.

I mean surely something caused you to write the post, right?

could it have been the fact that 4 of the 6 previous posts had discussed Trump's inheritance? maybe not but if you can't see how it would be reasonable to assume that most people would believe otherwise and think it was in reference to what i said it was then you need to work on your communication skills.

If you can't figure it out, then its your job to ask, not my job to assume you can't figure it out.

dyna mo 01-28-2016 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20713138)
Honestly...Dan Blizerian's life is the more desirable achievement. Who doesn't want to just have sex with beautiful girls, whether you paid them to or not?


I've never stated otherwise. I did, in fact, state they both inherited the same amount, one spends his inheritance partying and one turned his into running for Potus.

It's not difficult to see the point.

gnawledge 01-28-2016 07:41 AM

People love Trump because.

They are tired of lying snakes like what's currently in office.

People are seeing the light; how bringing in Muslim refugees into the USA is detremental to our way of life.

We are tired of being misled with personal agendas.

Trump brings arrogance and carisma.

Make America a business model? He's successful in his business ventures. Get people to work, get free loading scum off their fat assess.

It's cheaper to outsource. But we would spend more money as "Americans" knowing our "iPhone" was made in Florida or Washington State.

All of the bullshit aside. It's time for something different. Transparency is at it's best. The common folk understand.


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