i have a home in Los Angeles and i've also researched police violence in-depth. Locally, i'm more likely to get shot (and killed) by LAPD than by a non-police person. the militarization of the police nationally is well-documented. police on citizen violence is more than fully-documented, it's been acknowledged as very real by even the police forces being scrutinized, both in the public and by the feds. cities as varied as chicago and albuquerque have recognized their own similar cop problems. those are not exaggerations and they certainly are not my opinion. those are simply SOME of the facts.

i'm not trying to sell you on the cop problem in America, because there is simply no need to, it doesn't matter if you realize it or not. i'm simply pointing out it's been fully realized by many of us.

If white people don't know what it's like to be poor, why does Bernie think they need free college and a higher minimum wage?

Poverty is much more than a lack of money in one's pocket.

If Bernie was giving me that talk personally he would have said this instead :

"You can be broke as hell my friend but you will never be poor."

He means that I'm

- well mannered
- highly educated
- tall, good looking
- articulate
- cultured
- experienced in fine dinning, clothing
- well traveled
- outgoing, interesting
- etc

And all those things combined means that when I'm broke I'm still employable and
will not be broke for long.

He only broke it down by race because poverty is higher in minority neighborhoods.
He's saying the awareness of poverty is higher in those neighborhoods.
His statement was slightly hyperbolic and not to be taken exactly literally.

Think of his statement in the same way as if a pornstar told us that we don't know what pussy is.

:1orglaugh

You have to live in a ghetto to be poor?

What about rural areas without ghettos, people there cant be poor because nobody built them a ghetto yet?

WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS TO BACK UP YOUR STATEMENT ? POST THEM IF YOU HAVE THEM BUT YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXIST. HERE ARE SOME FACTS TO BACK UP WHAT I SAID.

5 Devastating Facts About Black-on-Black Crime - Breitbart

FACT 1. Over 1,400 more black Americans murdered other blacks in two years than were lynched from 1882 to 1968.

According to FBI data, 4,906 black people murdered other blacks in 2010 and 2011. That is 1,460 more black Americans killed by other blacks in two years than were lynched from 1882 to 1968, according to the Tuskegee Institute.

FACT 2. Black People (mostly men) commit a grossly disproportionate amount of crime.

In 2012, white males were 38 percent of the population and committed 4,582 murders. That same year, black males were just 6.6 percent of the population but committed a staggering 5,531 murders.

In other words: black people?at just a fifth of the size?committed almost 1,000 more murders than their white counterparts.

The figures above highlight a horrific truth that black racialists and white liberals routinely ignore: Lawbreaking black Americans, young black males particularly, put themselves in close proximity to (mostly white male) police officers at rates sometimes five to 10 times higher than whites. This is a recipe for disaster. Thusly?.

FACT 3. Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks committed half of homicides in the United States for nearly 30 years.

DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, black people committed 52% of homicides.

In 2013, black criminals committed 38% of the murders. Whites accounted for just 31 percent.

There are five times fewer black people than white people in America and, yet, they consistently carry out a larger share of the crimes? Given this rate, it?s no wonder that there aren?t more assistances where cops kill black criminals.

FACT 4. Chicago?s death toll is almost equal to that of both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, combined.

There have been almost as many deaths in one American city as there have been in the two major wars carried out by the U.S. military this century.

Chicago?s death toll from 2001?November, 26 2015 stands at 7,401. The combined total deaths during Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003-2015: 4,815) and Operation Enduring Freedom/Afghanistan (2001-2015: 3,506), total 8,321.

FACT 5. It would take cops 40 years to kill as many black men as have died at the hands of others black men in 2012 alone.

University of Toledo criminologist Dr. Richard R. Johnson examined the latest crime data from the FBI?s Supplementary Homicide Reports and Centers for Disease Control and found that an average of 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012.

Professor Johnson?s research further concluded that 112 black men died from both justified and unjustified police-involved killings annually during this same period.

you're obviously reading more into my statement than it is. What i stated is we have a cop problem in America, regardless of black on black crime.

again, i'm not here to sell you that fact and i certainly do not need you to agree with me.

To paraphrase Chris Rock.... I don't think a single poor white person would rather be middle class and black.

I understand what you're saying but your statement is simply not true and you have no concrete evidence or facts to back it up PERIOD...THE END. If you want to talk about real problems talk about the black on black crime. That is the REAL problem in the black community not the cops but nobody wants to talk about that. Not even Al Sharpton or Obama will touch that with a 10 Foot pole.

problems aren't mutually exclusive. i happen to think the cop problem is a bigger problem that black on black crime.

and it is a fact that LAPD kills more people that people kill people. it is a fact that police departments across the country are becoming militarized, fuck, my alma mater University , UC Berkeley has a bomb squad and one of those military transports from Iraq.

personally, and this may seem selfish, but i couldn't give 1 single fuck about black on black crime. that sort of crime impacts me not 1 fucking iotta. i am concerned about shit head cops being shit heads. that does, and has, impacted me. i am concerned about pot smokers getting felony sentences to fill up for-profit prisons. i am concerned about fuckwad politicians that support all of that. those are many of the reasons why i've picked Sanders to be my guy. not because of his [socialist] ideals, but because of where he stands on certain issues that are important to me personally, not saying you should also have the same concerns. i am saying i don't identify as a socialist and never have, although i rather identify as a socialist these days than a liberal and there's a big difference between the two.

LOL..what the fuck are you talking about? Did you even read your post before you clicked "submit" ? Explain what this means "and it is a fact that LAPD kills more people that people kill people" What are you basing this so called "fact" on? Back it up with some evidence or stats not just your opinion but first clarify that sentence if you even can.

You can think whatever you want but the Facts are the Facts and cops killing black people isn't a significant problem. The stats are the stats and your opinion is not reality.

As far as Bernie Sanders goes...#1 He will NEVER get elected THANK GOD and #2 If he did Corporations would Flee America and we would become Venezuela. Are you even aware of what happened in Venezuela ? If you want to live in a socialist country move to one. Enjoy paying 90% in Taxes. It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about :error

and by the way pot smokers are NOT getting felony sentences. Jesus Christ.
Where do you get this crap?

Racism is how people are treated and how analysis is used in regards to them. The analysis itself it not racist if it is factual. Do you really think that the white and black experience in the U.S. are equal? If so you would probably be in a very small minority.

Bingo! :thumbsup

Stop posting things that make me agree with you. :thumbsup

No it would make him right. The statistics prove it.

That's not what he's saying. He's saying it's worse if you're black.

Agreed with all your facts. What we need to be doing is looking into why these figures are like they are.

Classing people by colour is not representative until it's compared to income and circumstances. Could it be White people in the same income bracket, environment, education level commit a similar number of crimes?

What are the odds a black lawyer in a top range car will be pulled over more often than a white lawyer in the same car?

What are the odds a black upper-middle-class college student will get lower degrees than a white Student with the same background?

And so on.

The circle jerk here is hilarious, as always.

There's a vast difference between growing up poor in the rural Illinois and growing up poor in Cabrini Greens.

You can grow your own food, fish in the creek, hang your laundry out on a line, burn your trash, walk around in a yard, nearest neighbor is 1/2 mile down the road, he has a shotgun instead of a 9MM ......

Although that was 40 years ago .........

Nowadays if someone's shed goes up in flames there's a good chance it was a meth lab.

Bernie means Hell in Topeka. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No need to go out there its only white people

sure is hack

Eat shit hack -- good bye.

Surprised he's never been to or heard about some of the areas in the The Appalachian Region. Those are some of the poorest people I've ever seen in the USA

it is spelled "too" you dipshit, second, it was just incongruous, because it is uncommon. Most poor whites are rural.

Racist shitstain, you seem to think I give a fuck about you. Heads up, i dont. you're nothing more than a piece of shit that can't figure out I don't owe you jack fucking shit. You have a problem with my view while I do not give 1 single fuck about your view.

Ooo spell check 5000. I'm sure with your 3 credits in English class from your community college means you understand the world!

Most poor whites are rural? Are you fucking dumb? With millions in population living in the cities you think majority of poor whites live in rural areas? You liberal idiots are hilarious.

You defend a guy who says whites dont know what its like to be poor. And the best argument you have is spell check.

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You defend your own inability to spell? You don't have any fucking idea where people live. Nor do you remember your last five posts. You first stupid response was to me saying I found it strange to drive through a white ghetto in Baltimore, not saying white people weren't poor. There are actually MORE poor whites than there are poor blacks. Son, I have spent extensive time in West Virginia, where poor whites skin and smoke internet tough guys like you. One minute your 1990 civic breaks down on the side of the road, and the next you're prime dickhole jerky.

Yup, you told us how you really feel.

Go back to Israel.

LOL im the internet tough... you're rambling about your homo tendencies and how people get skinned and smoked in your white West Virginia ghetto.

"spent extensive time in West Virginia" that's because you still live there! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Well they're all idiots, trump is interesting cause the rest are completely rotten and filled with lies, corruption and contempt towards voters. We call them the establishment.

Least to say this will be the most intriguing political campaign since many years. "Regular" people are just fed up with the lies and manipulative strategies that just don't seem to stop. They want someone that speaks straight.

What concerns me is how much or little Trump is playing people though, he is smart, he knows what people wants to hear. I do hope he means what he says.

Don't know how Trump would perform as president and how much america he will get back on track but I like him cause he is on the other side of everything and that side I won't touch for anything in the world.

Voting for Trump is also a vote against the others, and everyone being shocked or surprised that Trump is hauling that many votes that he does, don't have much insight what's really going on among voters and america today.

Let them have their panic attack, it's about time.

You sure seem to be an expert on gayness. You bring up homo tendencies a lot - nothing for you to be ashamed of bro. I live in Manhattan, but I do get around, unlike some folks who just sit in their basement and post angry, stupid shit.

Lives in "Manhattan". Admits to "getting around". Admits to understanding what it takes to be an "expert on gayness". Admits to spending extensive time in "West Virgina" where he knows they do things to peoples "dickhole".

I think i know where this is going. While im flattered. Im not gay. And im not interested. Thanks.

:2 cents::2 cents:

takes little brain power to come to the conclusion that a poor minority would have a much harder time than a poor majority. it's a difficult subject to discuss, especially when it can be perceived as trivializing what it's like to grow up poor, period.

I can't believe that a Socialist is actually a contender in an American presidential election. How the fuck did we get here?

Anyone with a brain can look up all of this shit. I have lived a life I wont even waste your time filling you in on, but there was a time when I and my 2 brothers bathed only in a river, had no electricity, no bathroom facility, but were fortunate enough to find a 1950s 12ft camper to be in from the rain, at least the corner that didn't leak. Compared to a third world country just having the damn river is beyond riches, and the fact that we could go to the church and get food on sunday is like heaven compared to the starvation that is happening around the world, but to say that I don't know what poor is compared to a black person who grew up in this country? Bernie can fuck himself. I do agree, when guys like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet continue to pile up billions when they didn't need anything after the first hundred million at least, it's ridiculous and an embarrassment in the eyes of so many in this world that just want some clean water and a fucking stalk of celery. There has top be a middle ground, and Bernie, outside of this comment which I have not gone and verified myself for context yet, he seesm to have the most common sense out of this group of candidates, but he still is oblivious to the hornets nest he thinks he can shake up. Go after the big banks and kill our economy? That won't help a damn person in the end, and certainly will increase his chances of leaving office like Kennedy did.

:thumbsup 2 cents: :thumbsup

Trump will redefine the meaning of Lame Duck President. Because he's just the President, not a dictator. The opposition will be from Republicans and Democrats.

Big business has bought and paid for them. So they won't allow any laws that lead to fewer migrants, lower imports from the Third World, less spending, lower debt, reduced prices for drugs, etc.

And anyone who thinks he can do what he promises. Should be banned from voting on account of being insane.

If Americans want to see change, they have to force politicians who are owned by their donors, out of a job. And that won't happen.

The problem is going to get worse as jobs go and populations increase. And then even the people here will find themselves poorer or poor. Because their customers won't be able to afford their goods. Even if you sell outside the US, it's a trend that's worldwide.

Imagine a small sector of an industry getting rich by destroying others ability to make a living. They don't care about the people who lost their jobs, a few got richer. And they bought the industry.

Immigration And The Labor Force | Bipartisan Policy Center

I just want to throw this out there to debunk a lot of the immigrant phobia in the USA about immigrants being the cause of employment and work force participation decline.


If you can read -- read it -- it took me just a few minutes and its very well documented -- not popular media bullshit.

That said, there is a problem will illegal immigration that should be addressed but building border walls with armed men guarding them is just admitting defeat. Fact is; much of the world wants to come to the USA and the other part despises the USA for one reason or another -- concrete walls won't stop that and are a folly and a waste.

The Mexican ''terroristas'' are not invading the USA for political purposes en masse.

Same in certain areas in N. Carolina, we drove through many white ghettos 3 years ago when heading up north.

yeah completely unprecedented ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal

Bernie Madoff, Bernie Ecclestone ... cursed name, out of this world :D