Yes, those jobs are rushing back. Look at how the deficit is being eliminated.

http://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/...TS_GRAPHIC.jpg

http://www.economicpopulist.org/file...ficitasgdp.jpg

Stop swallowing the spin. We all know why imports dropped in 2009 and why they're climbing again.

With so many companies sending money to tax havens, ether ban the tax havens or Corporation tax and apply a modern way of collecting money. Import taxes and limits would be sensible. Just make consumers pay more at the till for the imported goods.

Paul, when you start paying taxes here you will be entitled to an opinion. Until then shut the fuck up already. Holy shit.


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Markham, you of all gfyers should know life is the gray area between black and white. But yoy seem to think in b&w. The fact is reshoring is trending. Is it a fucking whirlwind panacea, of course not.

You also seem to think the trend would have a direct and immediate reflection on the deficit.

US debt is 100% of GDP. To halve it in 10 years needs a 5% cut in spending. Go find that money without increasing unemployment. Every lost job lower tax revenue.

Cutting taxes in the hope every gets back to work, is gambling. And once enough is made in the US to get 30% back to work. Prices will rise and consumerism will falter.

Agreed about governments being bought and paid for.

you fucking ding dong, your graphics don't even match up with the right years.

Even if China and others didn't call in the loans. Once China economy drops, it won't be buying US bonds. Which means the US has less to borrow.

What Trump knows and what he tells people aren't the same. Nice to see you believe him though.

But that's exactly what a Government does with taxes, it builds things, employs people, safeguards the population. Why do you think otherwise?

To me the tariff thing is actually a bigger deal than the cooperate tax rate. Many companies hire a squad of accountants and lawyers to get them the best tax deal possible, but that doesn't matter if they have 5,000 employees and they have to pay them all $16-$20 per hour when they could take the manufacturing part of their business offshore and pay those 5,000 workers a couple of bucks a day.

Perhaps a combination of the lower tax rate and tariffs will keep companies from leaving and entice other companies to return. It's going to be a tough thing to turn around. We have had 30+ years of shitty trade deals and laws passed that make it very appealing to companies to go offshore. Reversing that trend will not be easy.

yea, cause basically stealing some assets for pennies on the dollar during privatization in some corrupted 3rd world country is any better than just simply inheriting the $$$... cool story bro... :thumbsup

The problem is that it makes him look like a hypocrite. With millions of people watching he denounces companies that move offshore and use offshore labor, then he turns around and does it himself.

it was an open privatization absolutely anybody could have made a bid...one man and a donkey...I did not say he was better did I? but he is better because he went bankrupt 0 times compared to trumps 4...so I am saying it now: he is better :1orglaugh

trump played business on easy mode with cheat codes :2 cents:

pretty much all government work/project/etc involves shady deals, cronyism, etc... why would you want to support that kind of activity?

What would you rather have.... $1000 given to some random person, who will then buy for example a computer with it? or give $1000 to the government who will then buy a $10 hammer for $1000 from some politician buddy's company?

so...

high taxes=more $10 hammers getting bought for $1000
lower taxes=more $1000 computers bought for $1000

So find graphics that prove your point.

The West imports far too much from the Third World and sells too little. So the West needs to get together to work towards balancing trade. Not just with China, India, Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines, etc.

To make it even worse, the West imports far too much cheap labour, Eastern Europe and South and Mid Americas. Taking jobs from native workers, lowering tax revenues, sending money home and raising benefits.

All this goes on courtesy of the 1% who profit enormously from it. They spin that they bring wealth to us. Truth is they take it away and then rely on us to buy their goods. The comment about Nike shares was right. If Nike Products, and other such imported goods, were taxed 5% at the port. Their shares and the company would lose a bit and the 1% would lose out. Who here would suffer?

The debt would lower year by year.

And yet people blame the Government. That's being run by the 1%. Which includes Trump.

Serbian coward spewing bullshit. Someone ban this national cuckold already.

I would rather it go to a Native Worker of the country than an imported computer.

You're using an extreme example as an excuse. Yes, there are examples of people buying goods that could be cheaper. walk into most Government offices, look at the quality of the equipment and the pay of the staff.

The $1,000 is more often someone wages. Who will then spend in their area.

jtfc markham, i already posted 4 articles including 1 study that studied the studies that show reshoring is trending up, which was and still is my point. i didn't say it is anything more than trending up. and that was only in response to the ding dong serb's illogical premise that capitalism is an absolute and total roadblock to jobs returning to America

what makes you think that government would spend the money any more "wisely" than you or I can? You give me a $1000 and maybe I'll spend it on hiring a carpenter to remodel my house a bit, or maybe I'll hire some person to help me grow my business? maybe this hiring of one person, will lead to growth in my business and will lead to additional 10 people getting hired down the road? what's wrong with that approach?

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Heart: $1 million
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Lung: $550,000
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Pancreas: $290,000
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Kidney/Pancreas: $475,000
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Liver/Kidney: $1 million

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its funny you should call me cuckold LOL cause the US gov cuckoled your asshole so deep it is almost wearing you like a diving suit...they entered your asshole, and you are now a full body condom...like a sock with hands and legs...they didnt fist you they "bodied" you LOL you are literally a skin full body suit :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

wheres your business acumen? corporations dont pay for anything. customers pay for everything. The cost will be passed on to them. How do you miss this?

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Dude Trump doesn't know JACK SHIT. You gotta stop thinking Trump is some business genius. LOL He is not. I am a New Yorker and apparently ONLY we New Yorkers remember/know what a fool and charlatan the man is.

But aside from that there's this fact no one wants to acknowledge: America doesn't want its' jobs back. If it did there would be endless protests in the streets. See any? Nope - now get back to being distracted and stare at those smart phones all day long while life passes you by sheeple.

Coward Serb finance lectures. Too funny.

Im Bringing Americans Back To America... Not Indeviduals but the Right..

Sorry Porn Nerd... I like you. But if it came to choosing between you and Trump when it comes to business knowledge...you aren't even in the same league.

He breathes rarified air. Something that you and I don't even get a whiff of.

So you telling me the Trump doesn't know shit is like you telling me that Floyd Mayweather doesn't know how to box.
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Apparently not. It seems that people DO understand how business works.
He's winning big again today at the polls.

I disagree about the jobs. Back when the economy was roaring people were working and were happy to do so.

The problem is that the jobs that are being created today are mostly low paying service and retail jobs. Jobs, many people don't want. Take, for example, a friend of mine. Back during the recession his wife lost her job. They have two young kids so she became a stay at home mom. She could go out and get a job now, but if it only pays $9-$10 per hour it makes no sense for them. By the time they pay a babysitter and her cost of gas to drive to this job they would barely be breaking even. Now, if she could go out and find a better job that paid more and offered her a chance to move up in the company it would be a different story.

I think we are not seeing protests because there are enough low paying jobs to accommodate those who are desperate. Not to mention they can also get help from the government in the form of food stamps etc. Those who aren't desperate are looking for the right opportunity, but they can get by without working.

I think it makes him a hypocrite, but I also think a lot of people don't really care.

If he sweeps the primaries today he will be almost impossible to stop. I actually read that it would be better for him is he lost Ohio to Kasich because Rubio is likely to drop after losing Florida so if Kasich sticks around as the establishment guy it gives those Rubio supporters somewhere to go other than Cruz (although some would likely go to Trump as well) and they felt he would do better in a three person race with Kasich not really a threat, but leeching enough voters to pull Cruz down.

I'll concede that he didn't start from nothing. His dad did give/loan him a good amount of money, but to turn it into billions takes some serious knowledge. You don't just happen across that kind of thing.

Bla bla bla bla bla I too can talk like a Serb.

I like you too Robbie but you are doing here what many people do to try and win an unwinnable argument: throw false equivalencies around. Did I say that I, the great and masterful Porn Nerd, know more about business than Trump? No I did not, nor did I say Trump was incompetent when it came to business. But thinking he breathes 'rarified air' is nonsense. He's a celebrity and a genius at branding and marketing HIMSELF (and nothing more). To wit:

It's called the Peter Principle. Or, failing upwards. Give ME $20 mil to start with (and back when that was akin to $200 mil today), a blustery ego, a hungry New York media and WHAM watch me soar like Peter Pan. Trump was bankrupt many times, played with casinos and real estate (both dirty, unethical businesses here in NYC) and would pick fights with celebrities just to coattail on their PR juice.

Again, we New Yorkers "get" this while many others (Robbie included) are blinded by the word 'billionaire'. Trump is here for one thing only: to get Hillary elected. Make no mistake.

Think what you want Porn Nerd. But you're 100% wrong.
You just don't personally like Trump.

I never understand why so many people can look at a situation and if they don't like it, they don't seem to be able to give the devil his due.

Trump will win New York in the Republican primary easily. He might even be able to bring it into play in the general election. So I don't buy your New Yorkers know better story. New York has always been Democrat.

It's institutionalized there.

But the Democrat Party of today is NOT the one that New Yorkers grew up on.

And I'm not "blinded" by a man being successful. You however are being "blinded" by your own personal feelings about Trump.

By the way Porn Nerd...here is the latest polling on your "New Yorkers know better" claim:

Hillary could lose to Trump in Democratic New York | New York Post

Perhaps, but my "feelings" are based on journalistic evidence. Remember, I was a working mainstream journalist during the eighties/nineties and had several dealings with Trump and his crew. He was always willing to fudge this or that for whatever publicity he could get. So my "feelings" are based on personal experience, facts and objective evidence.

This isn't about feelings. It's about not wanting the fool from The Apprentice with his finger on the button.

PS: America should not be run like a business. Business only cares about profit. America's needs go far beyond Wall Street, international trade and the tax code. America also should be about people, immigrants, the needy, sick and poor. Do you think Trump gives a flying fuck about any of these people? LOL

Yes...when you make the statements you make about Trump with all that vitriol..it IS about feelings. You are denying it. But you simply don't like Trump personally.

No big deal.

But you are dead wrong if you don't think Trump travels in a high place of rarefied air and lives a lifestyle that most people will never know. And his business is giant.

To declare that he doesn't know what he's doing is just dumb.

I think "America" is the PEOPLE. Not the federal govt.

And the ONLY thing the Feds should be doing is making sure that there is an environment for business to thrive. It shouldn't be in the business of "taking care" of people or any of the other thousand things it does so badly.

That's just the way I see it. Just my opinion.

No one has ever mentioned Monkey Party and you guys are soposed to so political here..

I thought corporations are people. Why are their taxes so low and why are we trying to get them way lower?

Capital gains tax is already such a scam, valuing money over actual work...

That dynamic tension between thinking Government should provide a safety net and thinking Government should only be about business and defense is what makes America great - and very scary. LOL But I defend the right of both of our opinions to be expressed. That we can agree on I think. :)

No I don't like Trump nor do I like Hillary so I ask again: Is Hillary and Trump the best America can do for President? It like choosing between a turd sandwich and a shit burger.

Keep in mind that what we are electing is merely the head of the Executive Branch. It's very important. But we always refer to them as "the leader of the western world".

No their not. They are just one branch out of three.

Between Hillary and Trump...I'd say that Trump is the better choice without a doubt.
I base that on Hillary's incredibly horrible track record in office and the way she has used her power to take out enemies and bolster her own checkbook.

And that would be something I would kind of admire in the private sector. But she did it all as the wife of a Governor...then the wife of a President. And then as a Senator and a Secretary Of State.

I just listened to her Victory Speech a few minutes ago.

I was struck about how she talked about how we need a President to help all the people without jobs, to help all the people being discriminated against, to get this economy going again...etc., etc.

And I thought to myself: "Why don't you just call up Pres. Obama and get him to do all these things?"

She's talking about how terrible things are in this country as if Pres. Obama hasn't been in power for the last 7 + years!

Why DOESN'T she just call him up and say: "Barrack, I've discovered all these problems I want to fix as President. But instead of waiting on all this...why don't you just go ahead and fix them now?"

The answer? Because she has no intention on fixing any problems or standing up for people.
And if she really DOES mean all of that sincerely...then she must be totally incompetent since she brags about how she's been doing it all of her life.
And yet the problems are still there...and according to her, worse than ever.

trump will solve the flaws of capitalim! just vote for him and do not worry :thumbsup

big capital will, somehow, cease to conspire...global interest will change its mind once trump starts using the best words, because he has the best words...

corporations will return to intrinsic values, investors will totally understand and not drop a single share, buyers will want expensive shit again, china will take it like a champ...

because a politician said so :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://i.imgur.com/DnrgATY.jpg

Like I said, you really should take the time to learn more about the subject on which you are expounding. I urge you to read those books I posted the downloads for. What you are talking about is cronyism, not capitalism.




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Why do people keep saying it is impossible to make profitable clothing in the USA? I guess these guys are doing the impossible then:

America Clothing factories in the USA




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