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Paul Markham 03-23-2016 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20792487)
So people come to Trump's rallies with the intention of stopping free speech and the people who try to stop them from stopping free speech are the storm troopers?



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The people who go to the rallies to protest are not the ones throwing punches.

EonBlue 03-23-2016 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20794746)
The people who go to the rallies to protest are not the ones throwing punches.

Really? So you've been to one I take it?

Anyways, so what? If you show up to a private rally, with the intention of stopping free speech and generally act like a total asshole you deserve to get punched. These douche bag protesters are doing everything they can to make sure they get punched so they can run crying to the media like little babies about how bad Trump and his supporters are.

You are being sold a bag of rotten goods and you smile while handing over your money for it.

Watch the video I posted above for an actual unbiased first hand account.



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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20792880)
The one where he will go against the Chinese currency manipulation or whatever. Experts are saying investors money will dry out. Stock exchanges will go down.

I think everyone should have the right to do business wherever they want. Overseas or not. As most companies will still pay taxes on their profits in the U.S.

I found this on YouTube by simply doing a search.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuWG9AWagF0

How is that racist? The guy was interrupting a speech and not waiting his turn. After being told several times to wait his turn he was then kicked out

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20794746)
The people who go to the rallies to protest are not the ones throwing punches.

Yes they are you dumb fuck

They are illegally disrupting a peaceful event, swearing, flipping people off, pushing people and swinging

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20792865)
weird,

?When Mexico sends its people, they?re not sending their best. They?re not sending you. They?re not sending you. They?re sending people that have lots of problems, and they?re bringing those problems with us. They?re bringing drugs. They?re bringing crime. They?re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people,? Trump said at his campaign announcement. ?But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we?re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They?re sending us not the right people. It?s coming from more than Mexico. It?s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it?s coming probably? probably? from the Middle East. But we don?t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don?t know what?s happening. And it?s got to stop and it?s got to stop fast.?

Donald Trump's Presidential Announcement Speech

ahh, i see what you mean. He did say some were good, he assumes. and not just mexicans.

Talking about illegal immigrants...over 80% of women illegal crossing the border are raped according to one US study

How is that racist?

maxjohan 03-23-2016 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20795433)
How is that racist? The guy was interrupting a speech and not waiting his turn. After being told several times to wait his turn he was then kicked out

Well. The things he said about Mexican immigrants, are certainly racist tendencies in my opinion. "They are not bringing the best"

And you will probably say: It's true, it's true.

Personally, I just can't see the greatness with Trump. He speaks to nationalists, and those who live in the past. "Make America Great Again."

Personally, I had prefered to see Bloomberg getting the pres post. If he had run for it.

But anyway, I am in Europe. So I shouldn't really care that much. And I quit following news, and reading newspapers. Like 7-8 years ago.

Robbie 03-23-2016 09:11 AM

I just don't see how saying that ILLEGAL Mexican immigrants are rapists is "racist". It's an exaggeration, but it's not racist.

As for being a nationalist...yeah, I think Trump is. And I'm no fan of nationalism. But it seems that most politicians are.

I don't think he's "living in the past" on his "Make America Great" again campaign slogan.
That is all about doing new international trade deals to reverse the cronyism in Washington D.C. that has led to hundreds of billions of dollars in trade deficits.
And he is 100% right on that. It has destroyed our economy and jobs.

If anything he represents a true political revolution. Which is why the OLD Establishment and Media are doing everything they can to stop him. They are the past.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 09:16 AM

So we're supposed to make who great again? Why shouldn't americans come first?

_Richard_ 03-23-2016 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20795442)
Talking about illegal immigrants...over 80% of women illegal crossing the border are raped according to one US study

How is that racist?

what?

8char

_Richard_ 03-23-2016 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20795634)
I just don't see how saying that ILLEGAL Mexican immigrants are rapists is "racist". It's an exaggeration, but it's not racist.

As for being a nationalist...yeah, I think Trump is. And I'm no fan of nationalism. But it seems that most politicians are.

I don't think he's "living in the past" on his "Make America Great" again campaign slogan.
That is all about doing new international trade deals to reverse the cronyism in Washington D.C. that has led to hundreds of billions of dollars in trade deficits.
And he is 100% right on that. It has destroyed our economy and jobs.

If anything he represents a true political revolution. Which is why the OLD Establishment and Media are doing everything they can to stop him. They are the past.

because he isn't talking about illegal immigration? he states 'Mexico doesn't send her best'

Obviously Mexico doesn't have an official policy of 'sending the US illegal immigrants', THAT, obviously, is common sense. So it must be referring to an official Government aspect, which is immigration.

Unless you care to explain why he would feel some illegal immigrants are good? With the references he makes to refugees, the entire dialogue is based on legal aspects of immigration.

unless, you know, the mans a moron.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20795676)
because he isn't talking about illegal immigration? he states 'Mexico doesn't send her best'

Obviously Mexico doesn't have an official policy of 'sending the US illegal immigrants', THAT, obviously, is common sense. So it must be referring to an official Government aspect, which is immigration.

Unless you care to explain why he would feel some illegal immigrants are good? With the references he makes to refugees, the entire dialogue is based on legal aspects of immigration.

unless, you know, the mans a moron.

Jesus fucking christ how many times does the context of the quote need to be stated before it gets through your stupid, thick skull? He was talking about ILLEGAL immigration. of course there are lots of rapists, murderers and criminals who illegally come in from mexico. By definition, they are ALL criminals!

What the fuck part don't you get about legal vs illegal?

Robbie 03-23-2016 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20795676)
because he isn't talking about illegal immigration? he states 'Mexico doesn't send her best'

Oh so you mean that you didn't grasp it was ILLEGALS he was talking about when he was talking about border security? Understandable given your history of mental clarity.

Of course...since that time he has been asked about that and repeated OVER AND OVER that he was referring to ILLEGAL immigrants. But I suppose that you can't quite comprehend that.

By the way...one of Trump's biggest detractors is the Huffington Post. Here is a story they ran a year before Trump announced:
80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

Matter of fact there were several stories on the Mexican Human Smugglers raping the women trying to cross the border on CNN as well BEFORE Trump announced.

The hypocrisy of the media is startling. Almost as much as your ignorance on the whole thing.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20795724)
Oh so you mean that you didn't grasp it was ILLEGALS he was talking about when he was talking about border security? Understandable given your history of mental clarity.

Of course...since that time he has been asked about that and repeated OVER AND OVER that he was referring to ILLEGAL immigrants. But I suppose that you can't quite comprehend that.

By the way...one of Trump's biggest detractors is the Huffington Post. Here is a story they ran a year before Trump announced:
80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

Matter of fact there were several stories on the Mexican Human Smugglers raping the women trying to cross the border on CNN as well BEFORE Trump announced.

The hypocrisy of the media is startling. Almost as much as your ignorance on the whole thing.

Thank you, Robbie

But of course whenever Trump points out the own media's articles...they deny it or retract it! Or call him a racist! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 03-23-2016 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20795724)
Oh so you mean that you didn't grasp it was ILLEGALS he was talking about when he was talking about border security? Understandable given your history of mental clarity.

Of course...since that time he has been asked about that and repeated OVER AND OVER that he was referring to ILLEGAL immigrants. But I suppose that you can't quite comprehend that.

By the way...one of Trump's biggest detractors is the Huffington Post. Here is a story they ran a year before Trump announced:
80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S.

Matter of fact there were several stories on the Mexican Human Smugglers raping the women trying to cross the border on CNN as well BEFORE Trump announced.

The hypocrisy of the media is startling. Almost as much as your ignorance on the whole thing.

really. he talked to the border guards. about the 'illegal immigrants we're getting'. even tho 'some are good'.

seriously. i beg you. elect him.

please.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20795742)
really. he talked to the border guards. about the 'illegal immigrants we're getting'. even tho 'some are good'.

seriously. i beg you. elect him.

please.

Not an argument

I am voting for him and millions of others are. You half wit!

So your argument just got DESTROYED. And you resort to nothing!

_Richard_ 03-23-2016 09:53 AM

very.. good.. that was definitely not an argument. You see, arguments require the belief that someone would actually be convinced of anything. I have just outlined how the man is racist, and how you are incapable of seeing it, and forced to resort to child-like name calling in order to feel.. anything positive about a conversation you barely understand.

happy voting.

maxjohan 03-23-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20795634)
I don't think he's "living in the past" on his "Make America Great" again campaign slogan.

Nah. I think what I meant. Was that he want things like the good ol' days. Like the 1950s or so. That's my feeling on what it means.

L-Pink 03-23-2016 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20795742)
really. he talked to the border guards. about the 'illegal immigrants we're getting'. even tho 'some are good'.

seriously. i beg you. elect him.

please.


I have a good friend, ex-employee, who is now with the border patrol in El Paso. The stories he tells me about illegals are unreal.

Why wouldn't those people with first hand day-to-day interaction with illegals not have opinions worth listening to?

L-Pink 03-23-2016 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20795778)
Nah. I think what I meant. Was that he want things like the good ol' days. Like the 1950s or so. That's my feeling on what it means.


Nope.


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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20795775)
very.. good.. that was definitely not an argument. You see, arguments require the belief that someone would actually be convinced of anything. I have just outlined how the man is racist, and how you are incapable of seeing it, and forced to resort to child-like name calling in order to feel.. anything positive about a conversation you barely understand.

happy voting.

You are saying he is racist, so YOU need to prove he is racist. Illegal immigrants and muslims are NOT a race. You fail

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20795778)
Nah. I think what I meant. Was that he want things like the good ol' days. Like the 1950s or so. That's my feeling on what it means.

Nope....

maxjohan 03-23-2016 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20795634)
I just don't see how saying that ILLEGAL Mexican immigrants are rapists is "racist". It's an exaggeration, but it's not racist.

I think it's racist. Because, most people certainly aren't rapists. But of course you are going to get a few bad apples if you bring people in from other countries. Almost impossible not to.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20795817)
I think it's racist. Because, most people certainly aren't rapists. But of course you are going to get a few bad apples if you bring people in from other countries. Almost impossible not to.

He didn't say they are all rapists. But a lot of them are. How in the fuck can that be racist?! That makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever :1orglaugh

maxjohan 03-23-2016 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20795799)
Nope....

Well. "Make America Great Again". Means that it has been great. So it must mean that he is going to run the Country in a way or similiar way, which it has been run in the past?? No??

maxjohan 03-23-2016 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20795832)
He didn't say they are all rapists. But a lot of them are. How in the fuck can that be racist?! That makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever :1orglaugh

Because most are not rapists. That's why it is racist.

1 rapist. 20 non rapists.

Or are your numbers more like. 20 rapists, 1 non rapist. ???

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20795856)
Because most are not rapists. That's why it is racist.

1 rapist. 20 non rapists.

Or are your numbers more like. 20 rapists, 1 non rapist. ???

A lot are rapists

How the fuck is that racist?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 10:18 AM

So out of the thousands of statements Trump has made, you think 1 or 2 are racist, which are not, but you call him a racist?

plaster 03-23-2016 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20795838)
Well. "Make America Great Again". Means that it has been great. So it must mean that he is going to run the Country in a way or similiar way, which it has been run in the past?? No??

What he is talking about is the industrial revolution. Jobs booming and sustained economic growth. Of course he can't say that or he would be laughed at for citing something 200+ years ago. He did say Reagan was a great president and alot of job growth occurred during his presidency.

maxjohan 03-23-2016 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20795859)
A lot are rapists

How the fuck is that racist?

Well. You don't get it. And probably never will.

maxjohan 03-23-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20795865)
What he is talking about is the industrial revolution. Jobs booming and sustained economic growth. Of course he can't say that or he would be laughed at for citing something 200+ years ago. He did say Reagan was a great president and alot of job growth occurred during his presidency.

Yes. That was my feelings too. Wanna bring it back to the good ol' days. I just didn't know when.

maxjohan 03-23-2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20795862)
So out of the thousands of statements Trump has made, you think 1 or 2 are racist, which are not, but you call him a racist?

I mentioned, racist tendencies earlier. I can't know for certain. As I don't know the guy personally. But I do think the one with "rapists", and "not bringing the best people" are racist. Because most people are not bad people. Or rapists.

L-Pink 03-23-2016 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20795871)
Yes. That was my feelings too. Wanna bring it back to the good ol' days. I just didn't know when.


Well ... he did write a book entitled ... ?Crippled America: How to Make America Great Again.?


Trump details plan ‘to make America great again’


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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2016 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 20795880)
I mentioned, racist tendencies earlier. I can't know for certain. As I don't know the guy personally. But I do think the one with "rapists", and "not bringing the best people" are racist. Because most people are not bad people. Or rapists.

What racist tendencies does he have? He hires thousands of people and has had a lot of black people endorse him. Quit listening to the lying mainstream media

Illegals by definition are criminals and of course they're not the best people

maxjohan 03-23-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20795907)
What racist tendencies does he have?

Those that I mentioned about. Rapists and "not brining the best people". Be it Illegals or not. I don't think the majority of Illegals are even rapists.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 20795907)
Illegals by definition are criminals and of course they're not the best people

Yes. Illegals are criminals because they are illegals? But that the majority of them are rapists or bad people. I don't believe in that. The majority of them are probably just normal people, looking for a better life. In the good ol' USA.

Robbie 03-23-2016 12:06 PM

I agree with you maxjohan.

But what Trump was talking about in his speech a year ago was that he feels the Mexican Govt. is purposefully turning a blind eye to criminals coming over the border to the U.S.

He basically said that they are getting rid of their undesirables by not having any border security of their own.

It's a valid point. But political opponents of Trump pounced on it immediately as him being "racist". That is just not the case.

EonBlue 03-23-2016 02:08 PM

Racist - a word so overused and misapplied that it has lost any relevant meaning and value toward intelligent conversation.



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Robbie 03-23-2016 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20796360)
Racist - a word so overused and misapplied that it has lost any relevant meaning and value toward intelligent conversation.

And that just goes to prove you are a RACIST! :1orglaugh

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_Richard_ 03-24-2016 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20795790)
I have a good friend, ex-employee, who is now with the border patrol in El Paso. The stories he tells me about illegals are unreal.

Why wouldn't those people with first hand day-to-day interaction with illegals not have opinions worth listening to?

i believe they would provide valuable insight into aspects of both illegal and legal immigration.

Trump needs to specify he is speaking solely of illegal immigration. Or, you have misunderstandings (if there is one), that he believes an entire people are rapists, 'except some good ones'.

Robbie 03-24-2016 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20797532)

Trump needs to specify he is speaking solely of illegal immigration. Or, you have misunderstandings (if there is one), that he believes an entire people are rapists, 'except some good ones'.

Which is why if you were paying attention over the last year you would have seen him say hundreds of times that he was referring to ILLEGAL aliens and that he is proposing to make it EASIER for LEGAL immigration so that MORE Mexican people can enter the US.

That is what the media pundits conveniently leave out and why YOU should educate yourself.


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