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Grapesoda 03-29-2016 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20801822)
Watched the program and the clearest thing to come from it is his love affair with himself. Second was his belief in simple solutions that everyone with something to lose will accept.

For instance, his solution to terrorist attacks, like those in Paris and Brussels, is for everyone to carry arms. Stating Muslims don't do this in the US because everyone has guns. How many mass shooting in the US were stopped by well-armed citizens and how many were committed by well-armed killers?

If you can't find it online, I have a copy you can watch.

no body gives a fuck about piers :2 cents:

Yanks_Todd 03-29-2016 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20803625)
zero

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2016...2-s900-c85.jpg

this is shortly before they blew themselves up - you want to shoot all passengers with a luggage cart now?

besides that: every EU airport now has police with machine guns already - you can see how helpful that is

but hey, let's give people more arms - maybe if Trump would have been there he could have shot them

Wow how does MaDalton taste?

Paul Markham 03-29-2016 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20806529)
Stop exporting cheap ammunition and firearms from the Czech Republic to the world market -- including the USA.


Armament industry

One of the reasons Hitler took the Czech Republic was to control its very large arms industry for his war production.

Fabbrica d'Armi Pietro Beretta of Italy can stop making handguns in the USA any time they want to ...
Beretta breaks ground on $45 million Gallatin plant

This is like the drug dealer preaching the evils of drug addiction :2 cents:

Where's the biggest arms dealing country in the world?

Dvae 03-29-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by paul markham (Post 20806313)
laws don't stop crime.

? :1orglaugh

Guns don"t kill people!

Barry-xlovecam 03-29-2016 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20807564)
Where's the biggest arms dealing country in the world?

according to the BBC

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The 10 largest exporters of major weapons
Country Share of global exports 2010-14
US 31%
Russia 27%
China 5%
Germany 5%
France 5%
UK 4%
Spain 3%
Italy 3%
Ukraine 3%
Israel 2%
EU countries together 20%

China becomes the world's third largest arms exporter - BBC News

Pot meet kettle.

Barry-xlovecam 03-29-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20807921)
according to the BBC



EU countries together 20%

China becomes the world's third largest arms exporter - BBC News

Pot meet kettle.

More Specific to handguns

11 Biggest Gun Producing Countries in the World - Insider Monkey

Small armament manufacturing stats
Small Arms Survey -Industrial Production

Paul Markham 03-30-2016 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20807798)
Guns don"t kill people!

They kill more people easier than knives. So a limit on who owns one and the power of the gun is sensible.

Barry, it's more about gun ownership.

http://eosmith.com/wp-content/upload...6184284418.jpg

Guns per capita
United States 112.6

Firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population per year
United States 10.54

If Trump wants to keep Americans safe, he should address their biggest risks. Like gun ownership. Not say Americans are unsafe in Europe. When they're less safe in America.

Unless he advises them to not visit California, Texas, Florida, etc. Gun violence in the United States by state.

pimpmaster9000 03-30-2016 02:56 AM

@paul

most americans have never been anywhere and they do not believe you when you say that europe is much much safer than the USA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it simply does not compute with them...its like telling a north korean that north korea is not the light of the world...

trump logic: a terrorist is not afraid to blow himself up but he shits himself when he sees a fat guy with a gun :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Dvae 03-30-2016 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20808380)
They kill more people easier than knives. So a limit on who owns one and the power of the gun is sensible.

Knives don't kill people either.
Both are inanimate objects.

Mutt 03-30-2016 05:11 AM

Most of these 'mass shootings' in the US are drug/gang related that take place in the ghettos - sad but there's nothing that can be done. it's not a white problem, it's a black problem and only they can solve it, by taking back their communities from the thugs, and more than anything stop their young men from impregnating females by the dozens and abandoning them to raise those kids on their own at 15 years old. the problem would go away if there was a father involved in their lives who set a good example and when the kid said 'I don't gotta go to no damn school ima be in the NBA or a rapper' the father slapped the idiocy out the kid.

As the 1st black president that's something Barack Obama actually could have tried to tackle head on where a white president can't but he's been a total disappointment, blacks don't even think of him as black now.

Mutt 03-30-2016 05:20 AM

Black Rednecks and White Liberals

The title essay is based on Sowell's thesis about the origins of the "black ghetto" culture.

Sowell argues that the black ghetto culture, which is claimed to be "authentic black culture", is historically neither authentic nor black in origin. Instead, Sowell argues that the black ghetto culture is in fact a relic of a highly dysfunctional white southern redneck culture which existed during the antebellum South. This culture came, in turn, from the "Cracker culture" of the North Britons and Scots-Irish who migrated from the generally lawless border regions of Britain.

Sowell gives a number of examples that he regards as supporting the lineage, e.g.,

an aversion to work, proneness to violence, neglect of education, sexual promiscuity, improvidence, drunkenness, lack of entrepreneurship,? and a style of religious oratory marked by strident rhetoric, unbridled emotions, and flamboyant imagery.


Sowell further argues that this "culture" did not exist uniformly among blacks, especially those considered "free persons of color", those trained in schools operated by people immersed in New England culture (who were, in turn, passing that culture to black students, specifically the need for a strong work ethic), and black immigrants from Caribbean islands (where slavery also existed). His essay argues that, among those groups, educational statistics were on par with similarly-trained whites (and higher than southern whites in general), and continued on an upward trend until the advent of multiculturalism.


Barry-xlovecam 03-30-2016 05:52 AM

No, it is not about gun ownership. Firearm deaths that are the result of violent disputes or criminal activity are the problem. Mentally unstable assholes and wack-jobs are the problem. Accidental shootings are the exception to the rule.

Cain beat Able to death by crushing his skull with a rock. Rocks are dangerous --we should ban them.

The Islamic Terrorist State cuts off peoples' heads with a sword ( a long knife). The worst terrorist terrorism involves suicide bombing. We have had a run of mass shootings by knucklehead teens and gang-bangers. We need to better identify them and put them in isolation where they can't get at a gun.
  • How many American made weapons were used?
  • How many Klashnakovs or other foreign made weapons were used?
  • Where is the country of the ammunition's origin?

Why did Barreta come to the US to build gun factories?
Why is the Glock semi-automatic pistol so popular in the US?

Do you live in a bubble?

Paul Markham 03-30-2016 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20808596)
Black Rednecks and White Liberals

The title essay is based on Sowell's thesis about the origins of the "black ghetto" culture.

Sowell argues that the black ghetto culture, which is claimed to be "authentic black culture", is historically neither authentic nor black in origin. Instead, Sowell argues that the black ghetto culture is in fact a relic of a highly dysfunctional white southern redneck culture which existed during the antebellum South. This culture came, in turn, from the "Cracker culture" of the North Britons and Scots-Irish who migrated from the generally lawless border regions of Britain.

Sowell gives a number of examples that he regards as supporting the lineage, e.g.,

an aversion to work, proneness to violence, neglect of education, sexual promiscuity, improvidence, drunkenness, lack of entrepreneurship,? and a style of religious oratory marked by strident rhetoric, unbridled emotions, and flamboyant imagery.


Sowell further argues that this "culture" did not exist uniformly among blacks, especially those considered "free persons of color", those trained in schools operated by people immersed in New England culture (who were, in turn, passing that culture to black students, specifically the need for a strong work ethic), and black immigrants from Caribbean islands (where slavery also existed). His essay argues that, among those groups, educational statistics were on par with similarly-trained whites (and higher than southern whites in general), and continued on an upward trend until the advent of multiculturalism.


It's Ghetto Culture and has nothing to do with race. Look to the Mafia for an example of White Ghetto Culture. Where some turn to crime and violence as a way to earn money.

Paul Markham 03-30-2016 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20808623)
No, it is not about gun ownership. Firearm deaths that are the result of violent disputes or criminal activity are the problem. Mentally unstable assholes and wack-jobs are the problem. Accidental shootings are the exception to the rule.

Cain beat Able to death by crushing his skull with a rock. Rocks are dangerous --we should ban them.

The Islamic Terrorist State cuts off peoples' heads with a sword ( a long knife). The worst terrorist terrorism involves suicide bombing. We have had a run of mass shootings by knucklehead teens and gang-bangers. We need to better identify them and put them in isolation where they can't get at a gun.
  • How many American made weapons were used?
  • How many Klashnakovs or other foreign made weapons were used?
  • Where is the country of the ammunition's origin?

Why did Barreta come to the US to build gun factories?
Why is the Glock semi-automatic pistol so popular in the US?

Do you live in a bubble?

You can say the same about Muslims because a minority want to kill others. And apply the same rule to many crimes.

As for where Arms are produced, what's that got to do with where they're used and used to kill?

The only way to stop nutjobs and whackos getting guns is to control who owns guns. That would include the family with "troubled" children.

Barry-xlovecam 03-31-2016 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20809994)
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As for where Arms are produced, what's that got to do with where they're used and used to kill?

The only way to stop nutjobs and whackos getting guns is to control who owns guns. That would include the family with "troubled" children.

Are you serious?


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