The establishment isn't going anywhere people will just become disenfranchised and do nothing. People in this country are more worried about making their payments on their mc mansions and 60 month car loans than what happens in DC.

Look at Iceland as a prefect example of what this country isnt. When it came out their PM was hiding money, the people took to the streets and ran him out of office last week.

People in this country are more worried about their new iphone than getting fucked by the govt from corrupt political system. People here are fat and lazy..

They've already been doing it for years. It's not like they needed Trump or Cruz's help. I'd say Trump or Cruz isn't the problem -- they're more of a symptom of the problem.

Good news is it makes people want to vote for Trump. Bad news is it shows how out of it the RNC really is.

Or we have it so good that we don't care.

Exactly. Trump or Cruz didn't just appear magically. And Bernie's popularity didn't just happen either.

Not one of those people are what we have been spoonfed into believing is supposed to be President. Not one.

But people are sick and tired of electing the chosen candidates and then watching them do none of the things they were elected to do.

If I were a Republican...I would leave that party immediately. Think about it: they are opposed to abortion, they also want a smaller govt. with less spending.
Bush was in office for all those years with a fully controlled Republican House and Senate.
So why isn't abortion illegal? Why did Bush spend MORE money and make govt. BIGGER?
Because he was NEVER going to do what the voters elected him to do.

If I were a Democrat...I would leave that party too. Obama has been President for almost 8 years now. Why aren't taxes a lot higher? Why isn't the govt. a LOT bigger? Yeah, I know he has a Republican legislature to deal with...but the first two years he had FULL control with a super majority in the House and Senate. And all we got was ObamaCare?
He never had any intention on doing what the voters elected him to do.

People want someone who isn't owned by special interests and will just do what they say they are going to do. Or at least try to do it. And if Congress won't work with them...guess what? They are gonna get voted out too.

We KNOW what Trump wants to do. We KNOW what Bernie wants to do.

Jeb? He would have said anything to get elected. And then obey all the people that donated those hundreds of millions of dollars to him.
Hillary? Same exact thing.

People are tired of it.

Obama said he would do Obamacare and he did. He made lots of measures to get us out of the recession, food stamps expanded, cash for clunkers, first time home buyers. He got us out of the wars. So far, he has been ok as far as what he said he would do. He did not cure all of our ills.

Bernie seems pretty straight up. Nuts but he seems to have a plan.

Trump has said he wants to rebuild the gutted military but wants to make it smaller. He wants troops on the ground and wipe out Isis but wants to stay out of the middle east. I tend to like his flexibility as that is what a good business person needs. If it is not working then go the other way and try that. It is less good for telling me what he is for before an election. He did lose me when he was a birther and re enforced that with the ban Muslim thing. He tends to speak first first and evaluate second.

That's not true at all. The middle class has been gutted and now the average person is working 2 jobs to stay afloat or attempt to get ahead. Not only that but both the man and the women have to work in order to maintain their lifestyle which wasn't required of the middle class back in the 50s for example.

People are enslaved by debt and passified with new toys.

Quoted for truth!

I didn't say anything about what the people want. I didn't say anything about him becoming president. I said he would be the next republican nominee. Funny how you read things that aren't even there. And you have the fucking nerve to call me "low information". Funny how you like to insult people every time they prove you wrong, and funny (or sad) how you blame new and science sources for misinformation any time what's [resented doesn't fit your view of the world.

Here's some stuff for you to read:

Top Republicans: Paul Ryan will end up with GOP nomination - Business Insider
Forget Trump. Paul Ryan is the likely GOP nominee—commentary
We choose the nominee, not the voters: Senior GOP official
Paul Ryan Won't Rule Out Accepting GOP Nomination at RNC Convention - Fortune
Charles Koch Is Privately Committed To Getting Paul Ryan Nominated In Cleveland: Source

Oops wait, "the media" is not to be trusted. LOL.

If you think that women want to stay home or that we want the lifestyle of the 50's then that is on you.

The middle class has been gutted my whole life, and everyone has it pretty good. Look at us sitting around doing nothing and we are fine.

Sure Mark, whatever you say:

Fifty Mark Prince's lying about what they just wrote earlier in the thread.

rubio hasn't dropped out yet. his campaign was just temp suspended until the convention.

http://media.breitbart.com/media/201...AP-640x480.jpg

I guess Mark Prince may be suffering from memory loss in his old age and didn't remember typing this earlier in this same thread:

That's okay Mark...being so sensitive and emotional as you are it probably puts a strain on your memory.
You just kick back and relax and keep on believing in the shit you are fed by the media. You trust them so much! :)

I mostly agree with you...but Donald Trump isn't the answer. He's an inarticulate, classless clown. And I don't believe for one second that silver spoon in mouth motherfucker gives a single fuck about anyone but himself.

Added to this, he wants to fuck his own daughter if she wasn't his daughter. He's a disgusting pig.

and there's also this, which tells you all you need to know about the man.

Donald Trump turned his back on his closest friend when he heard he had AIDS

LOL a thread about paul ryan becomes a thread about the usual libby whiners, whining about trump.

hate trump all you want. the dems rallying around hilary is your sides kiss of death. you can thank her when he wins.

It's not about Trump specifically. It's a movement in the country.

I actually heard Harry Reid complaining a couple of years ago that voters have access to too MUCH information now! WTF?
He was angry that people could now fact check candidates on the internet, and see what they said and did to compare to what they lie about during their campaigns!

At least with Trump and Sanders...people know EXACTLY what they are going to do.

With Hillary, Rubio, Jeb, etc., they will just spend the campaign saying the "right" things and then go into office and fuck the country over while funneling money back to their donors.

I don't agree with much of anything that Trump says about social issues. And I don't agree with much of anything that Sanders says about economics.

But I would rather have either of them than Paul Ryan or Hillary Clinton and more of the "business as usual" of getting our country into more wars and more debt.

Even without the Hitler imagery, he still looks and sounds like bad news. Who is listening to his garbage and saying "yeah, more of that"....?????

People I don't want to know, and hope I never meet.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/11/us...aign.html?_r=0

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#ryan2016 #uniteamerica

No where in this thread did I say that Ryan is who the people want.


Prove to me that I said Paul Ryan is who the people want to be president. You can't. You are lying to yourself, or you are lying to everyone on GFY, or both.


"The GOP" is not "The People". LOL! Read what I said again, clown: I think that Ryan is the GOP's best hope of winning the whitehouse

As for relaxing, well, you're the one losing his marbles here. You are so sure that you are right about everything that you read things that aren't there, and make up lies to support your ideas.

Peace.

There is reasonable comeback of Ted Cruz that is chipping away at what everyone predicted to become Trumps delegates, if Donny wont reach the 50% mark, I also think that Romney or Ryan will be taking the nomination.

He looks like he wants to fondle someone's nuts. One of the Koch brothers, probably.

WTF are you talking about? Nobody ever said that you said that. I pointed out that you said Ryan was the best hope to win the Whitehouse:

Then when I showed you that he has NO chance of winning the general election you said:

The I quoted you (as above) saying EXACTLY THAT:
And NOW you are trying to spin it into me "lying" and saying you said Ryan is who the people want?

Man...you have become as pathetic a troll as crocket is. Lying, spinning...just pathetic.

But there are YOUR words quoted for everyone to see. If Trump were on this forum he would have to nickname you "Lyin' Mark"

https://gfy.com/20829080-post36.html

boop!


I'm not spinning anything. You said I said something that I didn't say. You lied. Now you are trying to double-down on your lie. Pathetic.

Going to have to side with robbie on this one. The only mention of lying is mr. Prince stating robbie was lying, but an opinion and past public knowledge of candidate failures is not a lie.

Carry on ladies.

Mark, I don't see anywhere in my post that you linked to where I said anything about you saying Ryan was for the "people" or whatever nonsense you are trying to spin.

That was NEVER the discussion we were having. YOU said Ryan was the best hope to win the WhiteHouse. I showed you that you were WRONG (as you always are).

Now you are spinning. Nobody is lying. You are just either trolling or stupid. Or both.

Whatever you say Robbie.

robbie just admit you were wrong already.

Robbie I will break it down for you again and make it as clear as possible for you.

The title of this thread is "Paul Ryan will be the republican nominee".

In message #5 I said:
"I predict a brokered convention with delegates picking Ryan over everyone."

In message #17 I said
"Paul Ryan on the other hand is probably the smartest of the entire bunch on the republican side. I think that Ryan is the GOP's best hope of winning the whitehouse, or at the very least, saving the republican party."

You with me so far?

Now, In message 36, you said

"You certainly (as usual) have NO idea about what people in this country want."

So not only did you completely lie about what I said, you insulted me at the same time.

I then tried to correct you in this post but again, the truth doesn't fit in your world, so you lashed out at me again here, and then lashed out again while trying to lie your way through your own mistake here

Ok now?

Because YOU said he was the "GOP's best hope of winning the Whitehouse".

That means in your tiny brain that people would vote for him. You are WRONG and stupid.

By the way, I keep trying to tell you that since you aren't in the porn biz but just have a service that people can use...you need to stop this shit.

I was on XBiz a few weeks ago looking for cam software for Claudia Marie's members area. Had a ton of recommendations...nobody mentioned yours.
That's not a good thing.

Robbie:

Did I say "Paul Ryan is what or who the people want?" No, I did not. What I said isn't even close to that. What I MEAN is what I SAID. It is you my friend, who took what I said and completely misinterpreted it, and then even misquoted it, and tried like hell to justify your mistake, just like you are doing right now.

You made an error when you replaced what I said, with what you thought I said. You made a second error when you did not correct the first error. You made a 3rd error when you did not self destruct. (Star Trek TOS reference? Anyone? Anyone? sigh..)

We don't produce porn. We service the porn industry.

Our solution would not be a good match for you. I have been to your site. What you want is a white label like streammate or similar. We're not a white label.

Wow, you are not hearing me are you? You said he would be the best to WIN THE WHITEHOUSE. I showed you that "no" he isn't. Nothing to do with you somehow dreaming that I said you thought he is the people's choice or some such nonsense.

Secondly...I JUST SAID YOU AREN'T IN THE PORN BIZ AND ONLY SERVICE IT...and then you repeat me saying that? WTF?

Third...you don't KNOW what I need in the members area. And neither did the people replying to me on XBiz. But they did bring up quite a few cam software solutions in the course of the thread.
Yours was not mentioned by anyone in the industry.

That is a sign Mark...a sign that you need to stop trolling and start using an industry board to promote your services to people like me instead of pissing everyone off.

That's free advice. Take it for what it's worth.

Show me exactly where I said that Robbie. I didn't. But now why are you changing your argument? The original argument came from this post of yours where you said "You certainly (as usual) have NO idea about what people in this country want.".

I didn't say he was the best to win the whitehouse, and I didn't say anything about what the people want.

Yes, I repeated what you said. I clarified it. You said we aren't in the porn biz. We are, we just don't produce it. Did I disagree with you? No, I clarified it.


I don't need to know what you want in your members area. If have seen your site, and your site is just not a good match for us. Robbie if you and I were the best of friends and asked me for advice, I would tell you that in your case, our products would not be a good match for your site. I would then respectfully refuse your business, but recommend another that could work with you.

So let me get this straight. You completely misrepresented me in this thread by taking something I never said and tried to pin it in on me. I pointed out your "mistake" several times but you won't admit you made a mistake or apologize for it. Now you are so butthurt that you are trying to steer towards something else completely.

Like I said Robbie, our solution and your site would not be a good match. I am not trying to insult you or your site the way you are insulting me non-stop and my product. I am am just telling you a fact, that is all.

You lied about what I said, you lied to everyone else about it, you failed to correct or apologize, and now you are doing your best to misdirect. Your "advice" has no value.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfR8zYkWQAAiBy-.jpg

#ConfidentAmerica #Ryan2016

You are delusional Mark.

I quoted what you said already about Paul Ryan. There is no argument about that.

And NO....you have no idea what I'm looking for in the members area.

And yes...if you were presenting yourself in a positive manner to the industry your software solution would be coming up in conversations on a site with actual industry leaders in it.

I never lied about anything. I quoted you over and over. You are trolling. Hope this helps you with your business. I know for a fact it is not.
#norespect

Mr. Robbie: You didn't quote me, you misquoted me. Why not use the GFY / Quote feature and or point directly to the message I posted that you are referring to? You can't because it doesn't exists anywhere except in your noggin.

If there's "no argument", please include a link to the post in this thread in question.

Robbie: LOL! I didn't say I know what you wanted in your members area. I've never seen your members area. I don't care whats in your members area. Can you even read? I said specifically **YOUR SITE** is not a good match for us.


Tell you what - I'll meet you half-way on that. I've said some dickish things here on GFY fighting with people about politics. I won't be doing that anymore, but I will still be defending myself against people like you who lie about me or what I say. I hope you understand.

Yes, you did.

No, you didn't. You mis-quoted me. Worse than that, you just made stuff up. Please post a link to a message where I actually said what you think I said.

I promise you that I am not. I'm defending myself against your lies.

Ditto!

Mr. Prince, in order for the Republican candidate to win the whitehouse, he must be voted by the people. So you are saying that Paul Ryan is the best option for Republican nomination by the people... period. Now, as I read your words, you are playing the word game. You are saying GOP's best hope (eluding that democrats would easily win), and not sure your meaning behind saving the republican party. Republican party would be so shattered if a non candidate was elected nominee.

Mr. Prince, you did say what the people wanted because you said Paul Ryan would be best hope for whitehouse. How would he get there without the people's vote?

Robbie, I do believe you owe an apology to prince... just because. :2 cents: