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Bladewire 05-05-2016 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20877605)
Literally delusional? Is it possible to be figuratively delusional?
Dude, seriously?

romeo22 05-06-2016 10:54 AM
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bronco67 05-06-2016 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20877734)
Here is a little look into the uphill battle Trump has ahead of him. I took this from electoral-vote.com

"As the Washington Post's Chris Cillizza points out, there are 19 states plus D.C. that the Democrats have won in every election from 1992 to 2012. Together they add up to 242 of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House.A new general-election poll of a Clinton-Trump matchup shows Clinton ahead by 13 points in Florida, a state with 29 electoral votes. A simple sum shows 242 + 29 = 271. Game over."

This means for Trump to win he either needs to take some democrat strong states away from Hillary or he will basically have to win all of the battleground states. Neither are easy prospects.

So far nothing has gone as expected with this election so there is no reason to think that things can't change and strange things can't happen, but it is pretty clear, if Trump wants to win he has a major uphill climb ahead of him.
What this means basically is there aren't nearly enough, angry, bigoted whites to put Trump in office. It looks like there's enough while inside the Republican primary bubble, but I have faith there's a lot more people who are feeling ok about the economy, and actually have half a brain to not vote for that orange haired ego-maniac con artist.

Sarn 05-06-2016 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by romeo22 (Post 20878844)
good plan :1orglaugh
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Paul Markham 05-06-2016 02:08 PM
Trump was a no hoper and he ended up winning the nomination.

So nothing would surprise me.

Sad thing is Americans will vote for people like him.

Rochard 05-06-2016 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20877734)
Here is a little look into the uphill battle Trump has ahead of him. I took this from electoral-vote.com

"As the Washington Post's Chris Cillizza points out, there are 19 states plus D.C. that the Democrats have won in every election from 1992 to 2012. Together they add up to 242 of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House.A new general-election poll of a Clinton-Trump matchup shows Clinton ahead by 13 points in Florida, a state with 29 electoral votes. A simple sum shows 242 + 29 = 271. Game over."

This means for Trump to win he either needs to take some democrat strong states away from Hillary or he will basically have to win all of the battleground states. Neither are easy prospects.

So far nothing has gone as expected with this election so there is no reason to think that things can't change and strange things can't happen, but it is pretty clear, if Trump wants to win he has a major uphill climb ahead of him.
That seems to be a pretty fair assessment.

And I agree. Keeping in mind a lot can happen between here and now, but this seems to be an uphill struggle for Trump all the way until election day.

The Republican party has been trying to paint Hillary as bad, evil, and "crooked". Ten investigations into Benghazi have turned up nothing, and even if she is found guilty of charges with her email stuff it will be very minor.

It just slays me that one side is saying "Hillary is crooked" while you have Trump saying "I have bought candidates before".

ilnjscb 05-07-2016 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20877734)
Here is a little look into the uphill battle Trump has ahead of him. I took this from electoral-vote.com

"As the Washington Post's Chris Cillizza points out, there are 19 states plus D.C. that the Democrats have won in every election from 1992 to 2012. Together they add up to 242 of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House.A new general-election poll of a Clinton-Trump matchup shows Clinton ahead by 13 points in Florida, a state with 29 electoral votes. A simple sum shows 242 + 29 = 271. Game over."

This means for Trump to win he either needs to take some democrat strong states away from Hillary or he will basically have to win all of the battleground states. Neither are easy prospects.

So far nothing has gone as expected with this election so there is no reason to think that things can't change and strange things can't happen, but it is pretty clear, if Trump wants to win he has a major uphill climb ahead of him.
I quoted that same article in another thread. The electoral college is 50 points towards democrats. In the primaries, as a democrat, you want big wins. In the general, you want to win by 1000 votes and collect all the electoral votes. Only two states don't use that method.

Florida
Ohio
Virginia
Colorado
Pennsylvania
New Hampshire
Iowa
Nevada
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Maine
Michigan

are the states that Obama won by less than 10%. In particular Florida he won by <1%, Ohio by 3%, and Virginia by 4%. Trump could win all those and still not win. He'd also have to win Colorado, at 6%.

Obama won the popular vote by 4%. If Trump was equal, he might win the first three, but perhaps not Colorado.

He'd need to be up by 3% at least in the popular vote to be assured of winning.

bronco67 05-07-2016 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20879381)
That seems to be a pretty fair assessment.

And I agree. Keeping in mind a lot can happen between here and now, but this seems to be an uphill struggle for Trump all the way until election day.

The Republican party has been trying to paint Hillary as bad, evil, and "crooked". Ten investigations into Benghazi have turned up nothing, and even if she is found guilty of charges with her email stuff it will be very minor.

It just slays me that one side is saying "Hillary is crooked" while you have Trump saying "I have bought candidates before".
I love that they're trying to nail evil crook Hilary because she sent and received emails. The desperation factor is hilarious.

ITraffic 05-07-2016 12:27 PM
wouldn't be surprised if some mind controlled mk-ultra sleeper agent gets triggered and tries to assassinate killary klinton to clear the way for american fascism.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

Rochard 05-07-2016 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20880623)
I love that they're trying to nail evil crook Hilary because she sent and received emails. The desperation factor is hilarious.
They've been trying to paint Hillary as being "crooked" and or a "liar" for the past two years; The Republican party knew she was going to run and the Republican party knew they would have to beat her. And I am sure this tests great with Republicans, but for the rest of the world... She's never been charged with anything.

Instead they put up Trump, who couldn't be more crooked. He claims he can buy politicians, he has built entire buildings illegally using non union members from out of the country, and he's about to be dragged into court again in one of four lawsuits over Trump University.

It's just silly.

Horatio Caine 05-07-2016 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20880707)
They've been trying to paint Hillary as being "crooked" and or a "liar" for the past two years; The Republican party knew she was going to run and the Republican party knew they would have to beat her. And I am sure this tests great with Republicans, but for the rest of the world... She's never been charged with anything.

Instead they put up Trump, who couldn't be more crooked. He claims he can buy politicians, he has built entire buildings illegally using non union members from out of the country, and he's about to be dragged into court again in one of four lawsuits over Trump University.

It's just silly.
And guess who is in how water with authorities?

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016...-master675.jpg

noshit 05-07-2016 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20879168)
Sad thing is Americans will vote for people like him.
What's predictable is that a cradle to grave Redcoat Serf never would.

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Paul Markham 05-08-2016 01:36 AM
How will Trump reply to the obvious questions?

What will you do if countries don't do as you tell them?

He seems to think that he holds all the cards when it comes to negotiating. And his walking away from the table will worry other countries. Islamic Leaders, Kim, Putin, Jinping and others don't give a fuck if he walks away. With the biggest armed forces in the world what happens when his bluff is called?

Bankers can be added to the list. They can stop selling US Bonds or up the Interest Rates.

Paul Markham 05-08-2016 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by noshit (Post 20880929)
What's predictable is that a cradle to grave Redcoat Serf never would.

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If you look at European election results you will see we have far more Democracy this side ot the pond. The UK has Tories, Labour, UKIP, Liberal, SNP, Plaid Cymru, Sinn Féin, Social Democratic and Labour Party, Ulster Unionist Party, Greens.

US has big business running politics.

If someone stood in a European election and said they believed in Creationism. He would get laughed at.


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