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blackmonsters 05-23-2016 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20914922)
My experience has been completely different. I own several macs now (and a PC), and I can say that my experience with Apple has never been short of perfect.



I've never tried Ubuntu but I'm guessing that it won't let your Mac communicate with your other apple products, and I'm pretty sure the level of support is not the same either. With Mac running OSX, you get instant support by phone.




I think maybe you misunderstood the rep. Assuming you mean the Macbook, it is touted as a "wireless computer" (see MacBook - Apple (CA) "Fully equipped for a wireless world.". If you want to use a Mic for things like skype and phone calls, you can use a bluetooth headset. If you want to connect a Mic to record your singing voice, you can use a wired USB mic, etc.





That's not true. You can use your Mac without ever entering your credit card. But if you want to buy things from the app store, then of course you pay by credit card.



No, it's great. Buying software from the app store is just the beginning. It is also used to to inform you when your apps require an update. This is much more efficient than the usual way. Plus the app store has tons of free stuff too.




Wow you're really pissed! Sorry you had such a bad experience. I would have been happy to help you out. I have 3 macs on my desk + a macbook.

-----

Anyway, before anyone screams "Apple Fanboy", I also have a PC (Alienware Area 51 with Windows 10). It works well and is fast enough, but I find that I am much more productive on my Macs.
You make good points for people interested in those things; but none of what you said is of
interest to someone like me.

I don't call motherfuckers for help; I am the fucking help.
I don't buy apps; I fucking write them.

Take that "Fanboy".

:1orglaugh

Disclaimer : I like your points but I don't need them and I can't change from being an angry asshole in a thread meant for that purpose just because you are nice.

Dvae 05-23-2016 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20914865)
You were stupid to try that bullshit with me and now you're backtracking, so I must be angry because the truth hurt your feelings.

:pimp

:1orglaugh
You really should make an appointment with your psychiatrist. You have serious anger management issues!

blackmonsters 05-23-2016 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20915006)
You really should make an appointment with your psychiatrist. You have serious anger management issues!
Yo mamma!

:1orglaugh

Horatio Caine 05-23-2016 03:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20914877)
That you attempted to imply that I was as stupid as your post.

:1orglaugh
You better watch out or Boris will post some pictures of Russian rockets and his favorite wall rugs :1orglaugh

yuu.design 05-23-2016 03:57 PM
i'm on mac since 2009 and was the best thing i do

MrMaxwell 05-23-2016 03:59 PM
Can you write some apps, for me?
I don't know how to write apps :(

blackmonsters 05-23-2016 04:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 20915027)
Can you write some apps, for me?
I don't know how to write apps :(
Sure thing.

$2k for most apps; therefore $1k up front before I start.

:thumbsup

Horatio Caine 05-23-2016 04:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yuu (Post 20915024)
i'm on mac since 2009 and was the best thing i do
He is a programmer, you crop pictures of naked girls. Hope that helps.

Coup 05-23-2016 04:43 PM
Dual bootin Linux and OSX on a Hackintosh fo lie

just a punk 05-23-2016 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20914877)
That you attempted to imply that I was as stupid as your post.
Stepping down to your level it really is. No problem, bro. Move on.

Struggle4Bucks 05-23-2016 04:54 PM
50 hipsters with shitty imacs

blackmonsters 05-23-2016 05:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20915147)
50 hipsters with shitty imacs
:1orglaugh

AdultKing 05-23-2016 06:54 PM
Serious Questions for the OP

1. What languages do you code in ?

2. Do you use Unix command line tools ?

The reason I ask is that many developers these days use Macs, every developer conference I go to is mostly Mac users, it's rare to see a PC laptop amongst all the Macs.

blackmonsters 05-23-2016 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20915309)
Serious Questions for the OP

1. What languages do you code in ?

2. Do you use Unix command line tools ?

The reason I ask is that many developers these days use Macs, every developer conference I go to is mostly Mac users, it's rare to see a PC laptop amongst all the Macs.
It's not really about programming on the mac; I use a web server where the code is going to run. That's the definitive test; to make it run on the platform it has to run on.

I use every language ever invented and none of them do anything different that would be significant.
You might as well just ask me what type of latex paint I use on a wall.

At the developer conference :

Oh, I sooooooooo believe that because the money people they work for buy the mac for them because that's what they use.
Or, who wants to show up with a "cheap" computer and not look successful.

I didn't buy my mac; it was purchased for me so I would match.

Note : I made this thread because I hate the iMovie app with a passion; so it's not about me being a programmer.

The Porn Nerd 05-23-2016 07:52 PM
Mac is style over substance.
It's also a cult.

To me a computer is about efficiency and getting shit DONE - then walking the fuck away from it. Macs are about spending as much time as you can sucked into the Apple Universe. No thanks.

Shedevils 05-23-2016 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20914922)
My experience has been completely different. I own several macs now (and a PC), and I can say that my experience with Apple has never been short of perfect.
I can't fathom what is going on either. We use both Mac and PC and in some cases they are hooked up to the same monitor with the same color profile loaded in both machines so it matches.

I can use pretty much either machine interchangeably, they both do the same things. The big advantage with the Mac is that if you are using an iPhone or iPad you have access to your text messaging through iMessage. As well you also have a native bash shell and can do ssh natively. Video rendering can be a bit faster on the Mac at times as well.

And oh yeah you don't get that weird feeling Windows is trying to spy on you and monetize your private data. That is the main thing that I dislike about Windows and Android. Anyways enjoy your computers.

Colmike9 05-23-2016 10:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shedevils (Post 20915456)
As well you also have a native bash shell and can do ssh natively. Video rendering can be a bit faster on the Mac at times as well.
When I worked at Apple, Terminal was disabled on all of the work computers. Anything you opened that used Terminal would open it, give a warning then close. Except /bin/bash, that stayed open for some reason.. :upsidedow

2MuchMark 05-23-2016 11:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20915309)
Serious Questions for the OP

1. What languages do you code in ?

2. Do you use Unix command line tools ?

The reason I ask is that many developers these days use Macs, every developer conference I go to is mostly Mac users, it's rare to see a PC laptop amongst all the Macs.
Exact same experience here. Most of the developers I know all uses Macs.


Quote:
Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20915357)
To me a computer is about efficiency and getting shit DONE
My thoughts exactly. I was done with endless OS updates, pop-ups, security vulnerabilities, incompatibilities, slow boot times, blue screens of death and no support. I want computers that work, dammit!

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20915357)
Macs are about spending as much time as you can sucked into the Apple Universe. No thanks.
Windows / kettle / black.

XMaster 05-24-2016 12:06 AM
I bought an iMac few months ago and I'm selling it right now. It's complete bullshit.

CurrentlySober 05-24-2016 12:46 AM
Bad workman blaming his tools...

johnnyloadproductions 05-24-2016 01:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20914562)
Split the partition and put Windows on the other half, then.
You could listen to me, because I know the best solution and always have... :)

If you spend so much on a Mac get parallels.

For $99 a year use parallels and run Linux, Windows, and other linux distros all at the same time. Even drag and drop.

Copy and OS multiple times, trash it, delete it, make another copy.


Same reason to use Vagrant (which works in tandem with virtual box) create a local virtual environment that you can run a specific kind of server. Whether it's a specific web technology or whatever.

Virtualbox works ok for linux distros but they aren't nearly as smooth, plus can't drop and drag.

http://i.imgur.com/bouw1Lt.jpg

johnnyloadproductions 05-24-2016 01:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20915357)
Mac is style over substance.
It's also a cult.

To me a computer is about efficiency and getting shit DONE - then walking the fuck away from it. Macs are about spending as much time as you can sucked into the Apple Universe. No thanks.
I'm no purest. Most computers get the job done and that's all you need, as long as you don't go crazy on random installs and then don't know how to fix your computer.

Macs run smooth as everything is tuned on their devices between the software and hardware. Same reason why a Galaxy S5 has a 4 core processor running around 2.5 GHz with 2800 mAh battery that is only a little faster than a iPhone 5s that has a 1560 mAh battery and a dual core processor humming along around 1.4 GHz.

Most PCs are just slapped together, some hardware is better tuned when you buy it out of the store but I'm typing this on an iMac 2010 and it still runs great.

johnnyloadproductions 05-24-2016 01:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20915336)
I didn't buy my mac; it was purchased for me so I would match.
That sounds like developer affirmative action. :thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 05-24-2016 02:56 AM
3000-4000$ for a mac pro :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

AdultKing 05-24-2016 04:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20915336)
It's not really about programming on the mac; I use a web server where the code is going to run. That's the definitive test; to make it run on the platform it has to run on.
I use a Mac for software development because it's quite simply the best platform for coding and development.

It's a native UNIX machine, you can drop straight into bash and have the whole of UNIX at your fingertips. If you need extra packages you can install Homebrew and pull in any packages you want

Homebrew ? The missing package manager for OS X

I use Sublime Text 3 & Atom for text editors.

Git command line tools and the Git GUI

If you run VirtualBox and Vagrant then you don't need to leave your machine to do development, you can fire up whatever native platform you are developing web apps for right on your machine.

You can test all your code locally - regardless of where your end product will go - set up a dev server on Digital Ocean or Vultr etc and quick deploy git changes to that on your dev branch for immediate remote testing and auto deploy your master branch to a production server.


Quote:
Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20915357)
To me a computer is about efficiency and getting shit DONE - then walking the fuck away from it. Macs are about spending as much time as you can sucked into the Apple Universe. No thanks.
That's why I use a Mac, because it's quite simply the most efficient tool there is to get shit done. Development on a Windows machine, especially web development sucks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20915498)
Exact same experience here. Most of the developers I know all uses Macs.
Every solo developer I know uses a Mac.

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20915546)
If you spend so much on a Mac get parallels.

For $99 a year use parallels and run Linux, Windows, and other linux distros all at the same time. Even drag and drop.

Copy and OS multiple times, trash it, delete it, make another copy.

Same reason to use Vagrant (which works in tandem with virtual box) create a local virtual environment that you can run a specific kind of server. Whether it's a specific web technology or whatever.
Parallels is great when you want to fire up a desktop OS and either integrate it or isolate it from your Mac for work or just testing.

The beauty of VirtualBox & Vagrant is that you can have your entire codebase local and test it as if it were on a production server. So you can have a Centos 6 Instance using CPanel and your code base on your local machine and test that your App will run properly in that environment. Or run Ubuntu, Fedora or whatever other production environment while keeping your code local.

nico-t 05-24-2016 05:17 AM
people defending mac overpriced shit always mention the support, you can call them, blablabla.

In my whole life i have never even thought about calling some support phoneline when i had PC issues. That's what the elderly do (85+) and chicks with an IQ of 70.

blackmonsters 05-24-2016 05:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20915768)
I use a Mac for software development because it's quite simply the best platform for coding and development.

It's a native UNIX machine, you can drop straight into bash and have the whole of UNIX at your fingertips. If you need extra packages you can install Homebrew and pull in any packages you want

Homebrew ? The missing package manager for OS X

I use Sublime Text 3 & Atom for text editors.

Git command line tools and the Git GUI

If you run VirtualBox and Vagrant then you don't need to leave your machine to do development, you can fire up whatever native platform you are developing web apps for right on your machine.

You can test all your code locally - regardless of where your end product will go - set up a dev server on Digital Ocean or Vultr etc and quick deploy git changes to that on your dev branch for immediate remote testing and auto deploy your master branch to a production server.




That's why I use a Mac, because it's quite simply the most efficient tool there is to get shit done. Development on a Windows machine, especially web development sucks.



Every solo developer I know uses a Mac.



Parallels is great when you want to fire up a desktop OS and either integrate it or isolate it from your Mac for work or just testing.

The beauty of VirtualBox & Vagrant is that you can have your entire codebase local and test it as if it were on a production server. So you can have a Centos 6 Instance using CPanel and your code base on your local machine and test that your App will run properly in that environment. Or run Ubuntu, Fedora or whatever other production environment while keeping your code local.

But none of that has to do with me hating the iMovie app bad enough to rant in this thread.
The only people who brought up programming only did so because they know I'm a programmer.
I never said programming was a problem.

I was trying to make a video for a job application and porn kept getting stuck to it.

:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 05-24-2016 05:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 20915516)
Bad workman blaming his tools...
Wow, even when you don't type poo your post is still pure shit.

:1orglaugh

AdultKing 05-24-2016 05:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20915804)
I was trying to make a video for a job application and porn kept getting stuck to it.
User error :winkwink:

LouiseLloyd 05-24-2016 05:56 AM
If you can't use a mac and within the first 10 mins realise the huge advantages, the main one efficiency, then perhaps you need to look at something more appropriate to your aptitude.

http://argos.scene7.com/is/image/Arg...id=312&hei=312

blackmonsters 05-24-2016 05:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20915813)
User error :winkwink:

And how does that stop me from being enraged?

:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 05-24-2016 06:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 20915855)
If you can't use a mac and within the first 10 mins realise the huge advantages, the main one efficiency, then perhaps you need to look at something more appropriate to your aptitude.

http://argos.scene7.com/is/image/Arg...id=312&hei=312
Only an under educated jackass would post what you did about someone like me.
I hope you use you GED well.

:helpme

AdultKing 05-24-2016 06:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20915861)
And how does that stop me from being enraged?

:1orglaugh
Honestly, I don't like iMovie, it does suck.

However Final Cut Pro is ok.

blackmonsters 05-24-2016 06:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20915885)
Honestly, I don't like iMovie, it does suck.

However Final Cut Pro is ok.
Ok, I will have to try that.

:thumbsup

Colmike9 05-24-2016 06:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20915798)
people defending mac overpriced shit always mention the support, you can call them, blablabla.

In my whole life i have never even thought about calling some support phoneline when i had PC issues. That's what the elderly do (85+) and chicks with an IQ of 70.
I've trained their tech support back in the day. They seriously just go to support.apple.com and read off what that says to do.

Porko 05-24-2016 07:07 AM
I used PC from 1992 to 2010. Now I have 3 mac computers and I can't be happier.
It just works. Never had an issue and design and quality's materials are supreme. I have a partition where I have Windows too. Can't be better.

:2 cents:

nico-t 05-24-2016 08:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Porko (Post 20916032)
It just works.
Repetition of Apples marketing slogan, subconsciously saved in your brain to repeat. Coincidentally alot of Apple users who defend the brand all repeat this marketing slogan word for word.

AdultKing 05-24-2016 08:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20916122)
Repetition of Apples marketing slogan, subconsciously saved in your brain to repeat. Coincidentally alot of Apple users who defend the brand all repeat this marketing slogan word for word.
Probably for the reason that for most Mac users, things just work.

I'd slit my wrists trying to do web dev on Windows :2 cents:

For example, who was the genius that decided that Control - C on Windows should be copy and not break like every other platform ?

2MuchMark 05-24-2016 09:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shedevils (Post 20915456)
I can't fathom what is going on either. We use both Mac and PC and in some cases they are hooked up to the same monitor with the same color profile loaded in both machines so it matches..
Hi Shedevils,

Can I ask you a question? Are you using one of your Macs as a monitor for your PC? Can you tell me how you did that?

I currently have 3 iMacs on my desk as 1 giant extended desktop. 2 of them are connected through the firewire / video port thing, and the 3rd one uses the network for video. This works, but its slugish - I will probably swap for a proper cable soon. Anyway, I'd love to hook up my PC to this so that both computers can share all 4 monitors as an extended desktop. How did you connect your PC?

Colmike9 05-24-2016 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20916317)
Hi Shedevils,

Can I ask you a question? Are you using one of your Macs as a monitor for your PC? Can you tell me how you did that?

I currently have 3 iMacs on my desk as 1 giant extended desktop. 2 of them are connected through the firewire / video port thing, and the 3rd one uses the network for video. This works, but its slugish - I will probably swap for a proper cable soon. Anyway, I'd love to hook up my PC to this so that both computers can share all 4 monitors as an extended desktop. How did you connect your PC?
You can plug in a PC to an iMac to use as an external monitor if your PC video card or motherboard has a mDP output. Then target display mode should come up on boot. :upsidedow

(Adapters might work, but I'm not 100%)
Oh, and the iMac should be around 2013 model or newer for the mDP ports..


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