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Barry-xlovecam 05-31-2016 08:13 AM

Google has something neither you or I have -- $Billions of cash reserves -- they can afford to flood the .xyz registrations with cheap introductory pricing for years.


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Totals,,1,874,719,117444,139777,558,220,4,117,0,0,1,0,36,3959,87,24 ,8,19,1,0,1,2,0,370,2,427,2,0,0,0,55,60330,0,5,0,0 ,0,134396770
Google has registered almost 2 million names in 24 months most in the last 6? months. What is interesting is the 'attempted-adds' 13,4396,770 -- cybersquatters?

**I meant MM (millions) and not K above ^corrected : " in the other 134MM+ .com"

Google could give index value to some of those .xyz domains in a year -- a gambit? -- then what is .com really worth in SEO? The domain string may not mean squat soon. The semantics of the TLD string may. You may end up writing off a lot of .coms held in speculation all of the marginal crap anyway. I have let most of my marginal .com and other EMD domains just expire not being worth the effort and time to MAYBE get a few hundred dollars -- I would rather walk away and work on things with greater potential.

A lot of 'ifs' but stranger things have happened -- how much was the Euro worth in 1960 -- the Euro changed the whole world currency exchange foundation. The new gTLDs will disrupt the overall domain market. Maybe close to $2 billion dollars is being spent on the new gTLDs.

VeriSign Sarl operates as a subsidiary of VeriSign, Inc.
VeriSign Sarl bought 14 new registry delegations -- 12 of then foreign language names. Verisign, the registry for .com, .net , et. al, is butt-hurt over this and hedging their bets in local language domain strings. A lot of 'ifs' but stranger things have happened -- better have a plan 'B' or you may be butt-hurt too :2 cents:

BlackCrayon 05-31-2016 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20929916)
Google has something neither you or I have -- $Billions of cash reserves -- they can afford to flood the .xyz registrations with cheap introductory pricing for years.




Google has registered almost 2 million names in 24 months most in the last 6? months. What is interesting is the 'attempted-adds' 13,4396,770 -- cybersquatters?

**I meant MM (millions) and not K above ^corrected : " in the other 134MM+ .com"

Google could give index value to all those .xyz domain in a year -- then what is .com really worth in SEO? The domain string may not mean squat soon. The semantics of the TLD string may. You may end up writing off a lot of .coms held in speculation all of the marginal crap anyway. I have let most of my marginal .com and other EMD domains just expire not being worth the effort and time to MAYBE get a few hundred dollars -- I would rather walk away and work on things with greater potential.

A lot of 'ifs' but stranger things have happened -- how much was the Euro worth in 1960 -- the Euro changed the whole world currency exchange foundation gambit. The new gTLDs will disrupt the overall domain market. Maybe close to $2 billion dollars is being spent on the new gTLDs.

VeriSign Sarl operates as a subsidiary of VeriSign, Inc.
VeriSign Sarl bought 14 new registry delegations -- 12 of then foreign language names. Verisign, the registry for .com, .net , et. al, is butt-hurt over this and hedging their bets in local language domain strings. A lot of 'ifs' but stranger things have happened -- better have a plan 'B' or you may be butt-hurt too :2 cents:

google doesn't own .xyz. some guy named Daniel does. He seems to be doing well but lots of shady shit has been done for example stuffing network solutions accounts with free .xyz domains. google has no reason to favor .xyz. if you ever want to get a few bucks for your marginal .coms instead of letting them drop send me an email.

Barry-xlovecam 05-31-2016 08:47 AM

I stand corrected; I thought that was one of Google's registry front corporation's 142 applications
https://www.icann.org/sites/default/...05dec13-en.pdf
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This REGISTRY AGREEMENT (this “Agreement”) is entered into as of ________________ (the “Effective Date”) between Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, a California nonprofit public benefit corporation (“ICANN”), and XYZ.COM, LLC, a Nevada limited liability company (“Registry Operator”).

DELEGATION AND OPERATION
OF TOP–LEVEL DOMAIN; REPRESENTATIONS AND WARRANTIES

1.1 Domain and Designation. The Top-Level Domain to which this Agreement applies is .xyz (the “TLD”). Upon the Effective Date and until the earlier of the expiration of the Term (as defined in Section 4.1) or the termination of this Agreement pursuant to Article 4, ICANN designates Registry Operator as the registry operator for the TLD, subject to the requirements and necessary approvals for delegation of the TLD and entry into the root-zone.
Well, that registry is selling the domains for 2 cents, for less than the cost of the ICANN fees and the operational overhead -- you cannot make up a net loss on the volume. So, why are they flooding that namespace? Doesn't make sense then.

You buy junk? I don't want to take and hour to make $50 LOL after the loss on the registration fees --recapture the domain sales for tax purposes and pay the long term capital gains taxes on $50 -- better to write it off ... It's different if the sale were for $1,000s -- that is one reason why domain prices are so ridiculously high. <the original topic.

BlackCrayon 05-31-2016 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20930015)
I stand corrected; I thought that was one of Google's registry front corporation's 142 applications
https://www.icann.org/sites/default/...05dec13-en.pdf


Well, that registry is selling the domains for 2 cents, for less than the cost of the ICANN fees and the operational overhead -- you cannot make up a net loss on the volume. So, why are they flooding that namespace? Doesn't make sense then.

You buy junk? I don't want to take and hour to make $50 LOL after the loss on the registration fees --recapture the domain sales for tax purposes and pay the long term capital gains taxes on $50 -- better to write it off ... It's different if the sale were for $1,000s -- that is one why domain prices are so ridiculously high. <the original topic.

If its junk, why did you buy it? It takes you an hour to push a domain? Anyways, whatever you think is best for you. There are a lot of new gtlds you can get for 1-2 dollars. They want to inflate the numbers so they can show "demand" to their investors. Demand is lower than expected for new gtlds at this point and a lot of companies are disappointed. Donuts, the biggest new gtld holder *was* posting renewal rates stating they would stay above 70%. When they dropped below 60% they stopped posting the rates..


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