Agree. The problem with migration is ideological. The UK has become so PC it's afraid to stop mass migration of fear of being called racist. Which implies most migrants who have low skills or need benefits or a different colour.

As for no effect on your children. Unless they can earn 6 figures, odds on they will not own their own home, pay a high rent and will find it harder to get a job with a decent wage.

This is how stupidly PC it has become.

EU referendum: Corbyn urged to be 'bolder and braver' in making case for immigration | Politics | The Guardian

We now have the represents of the working classes, being told that they have to suck up what has reduced their living standard. And accept it will get worse.

As for Unions, they've become less powerful due to mass migration.

No it will not. In 20 years at the present rate of power. The EU will be the Government of the UK or the UK will be sidelined. The power balance of the EU will favour Germany and the smaller nations. The UK will be out-voted every time.

I suggest you research the facts. Such as foreigners, Muslims, Migrants, second generation migrants. In prison.

Especially Muslims in prison for sex crimes. Do it on percentiles. Of course, you don't know where your children will live, find a job, or where migrants will decide to live. Try doing some exploring.

So fucking what? My life will be exactly the same: earning a living, aiming to better myself and my then current situation, moving if necessary, changing careers if necessary, overcoming any obstacles as necessary... exactly like it has been for the last 20 years. The world might be different (just as it is now from 20 years ago), but seems people aren't grasping that just like everyone else, I've adapted as needed. That is a given, and won't suddenly become unnecessary just because we are either in or out of the EU... and let's not forget according to the other side, all this disastrous shit would happen should we leave. Again, the world would change - sometimes for better, sometimes worse, but *my* situation in as far as my 2nd sentence here will remain.



who gives a fuck that the prison system is full of rapists, murderers, and thieves? Do you really think there is any kind of good chance that outside of some shithole, females have a good chance of being raped? murdered? These crimes will suddenly stop and that the chances go from 0.001% to 0.0001%? That immigration will stop entirely... is that what people think is going to happen... surely they aren't that fucking dumb?

My kids.. I know they won't be living in a shithole, or scrabbling around looking for a job at a drive-thru, and I instil in them the same principles of: if you are in a situation you don't like, do what you need to, to get out of that situation... whether it's a relationship, a job, a place, a shitty friendship, whatever. The only duty here is the one you owe yourself to change any situation you don't like by getting off your ass and doing something about it, not waiting around thinking the fucking government, of all things, is going to do any damn thing at all for you. They never have, and they never will - their bottom line is how much cash they can get out of you, and what carrots they can dangle to stay in, or get in, power.

Posting in this thread is now as futile an exercise in real terms as voting, so adios, and good luck everyone on making an actual 'change' in your lives by putting an X on a ballot paper :1orglaugh

:) well, I get that it is a joke :)

Latvia had to fight the battle of its own to get out of Russia (who was hiding behind a brand USSR) and we all understand how important it is to feel independent (even though that is utopia in this global era).

+ Latvians aren't really afraid of consequences what happens after.. and even in the worst scenario - we are just 48hours drive away from home.

personally I support this desire even though it might be an economical suicide, but that is a different topic :)

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... the London mayoral elections just add fuel to the fire..

.. it almost feels like a classic chess sacrifice before making the main move..

http://yalibnan.com/wp-content/uploa...don-mayor-.jpg

Where is freddythedog?

you had no immigration before joining the EU?

We had no wide open borders without any checks before joining the EU. The immigration was controlled, so that is correct.

Without the EU, Europe wouldn't have been overrun with the latest masses of people. They wouldn't even think of going here in such huge numbers like they do now. Completely different world.

Thought this was pretty interesting... There was a poll from the biggest newpaper in the Netherlands about Brexit today...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkBXHTqXAAEVU9c.jpg:large

Wat is says is:
"Brits should stay in EU" - 80% DISAGREES
below that:
"Should Holland have a referendum about EU membership as well?" - 88% says YES

Good to see more and more people are waking up here... UK, you should wake up as well!

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