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dyna mo 06-05-2016 08:04 PM

it was revealed from emails that:

the Democratic front-runner also has an array of connections to the for-profit education industry that some observers have said raise questions about the type of influence for-profit colleges would enjoy under a Clinton administration.

Most prominent are Clinton’s ties to the global for-profit education behemoth Laureate Education, for whom her husband, Bill Clinton, worked directly, earning $16.5 million between 2010 and 2014. The former president stepped down from his post as honorary chancellor for Laureate International Universities last year, after making a handful of trips to various countries on behalf of the company.


In Chile one of the company's campuses was criticized by its accreditor over academic quality issues and also ran into trouble with government regulators.

For-profit education is technically illegal in Chile. Laureate has legally circumvented the ban, it says, by acquiring seats on the boards of colleges and then selling services such as building management and online courses to those schools.

The company used the same tactics to establish a presence in Turkey, where for-profit colleges are also banned.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...tion-companies

dyna mo 06-05-2016 08:08 PM

high 5?


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dyna mo 06-05-2016 08:12 PM

rochard, care to comment:

as secretary of state, Clinton pushed for the inclusion of Laureate at a higher education policy dinner that was hosted at the State Department.
She wrote in a 2009 email to a top aide that Laureate was “a for-profit model that should be represented” at the closed-door event, which also included the leaders of several research universities as well as a community college. Describing Laureate as “the fastest-growing college network in the world,” Clinton said the company was “started by Doug Becker, who Bill likes a lot.”
A senior vice president at Laureate was subsequently added to the guest list of the dinner, according to Clinton’s emails, which were released by the State Department last year under a court order.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...tion-companies

Hannes 06-05-2016 08:59 PM

I'm just here to see the comments...

Rochard 06-05-2016 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20942288)
Ok, genius what would you do with damaging emails?

How come the Republican party isn't going over her emails and using them to make her look bad?

Paul Markham 06-06-2016 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20940830)
That's only half of it. It seems Trump also practices in bribery.....



Texas Gov. Abbott Received $35,000 Donation from Trump After Dropping Trump University Investigation

Remember Pam Bondi, the Florida Attorney General who failed to open up an investigation into fraud charges against Trump University in 2013, only to have it discovered that in September of that year, the Donald J. Trump Foundation had donated $25,000 to her PAC?

Yeah. She wasn?t the only one, but she got short-changed, it appears. Maybe she could have held out for more.

The Associated Press is reporting that Texas Governor Greg Abbott received a $35,000 donation to his gubernatorial campaign from Trump, sometime after dropping a probe into Trump University, back in 2010, when Abbott was still the Texas Attorney General.

The Supreme court says it's every American's right to buy politicians. Everyone with $10 million or more. The rst can :321GFY

Paul Markham 06-06-2016 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20941871)
So Trump gave $35k to a Republican Attorney General in Texas to get his fraud cash hushed up?

LOL.

Ya know.... With Hillary Clinton and her email thing, well, tens of thousands of emails were released and not one smoking gun. On the other hand we have "teaching materials" explaining how to separate poor people with their money.

Why isn't anyone calling for Trump to go to jail?

Is it possible to get jailed for fraud?

Imagine a President being walked out of the White House in handcuffs. :1orglaugh

lock 06-06-2016 01:33 AM

So much more dirt to dig up.

Bladewire 06-06-2016 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20942561)
Is it possible to get jailed for fraud?

Imagine a President being walked out of the White House in handcuffs. :1orglaugh

Some have been fantasizing about that every day for the last 8 years :1orglaugh

Rochard 06-06-2016 09:23 AM

This morning I was reading articles saying Trump might be charged with RICO violations...

Donald Trump's Desperate Attacks on Judge Gonzalo Curiel's Integrity? - The Atlantic
BREAKING: Trump Faces RICO Charges Over Trump University Scam, Could Face Massive Prison Sentence

SuckOnThis 06-06-2016 10:00 AM

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Bladewire 06-06-2016 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20943299)
This morning I was reading articles saying Trump might be charged with RICO violations...

Great find! Interesting.

The facts so far that show this is entirely feesible:

1) 10/2014 Supreme Court Judge Kern rules that Trump was so personally involved in running the operation that the corporate vail is pierced and Trump is personally liable for any case involving Trump U.

2) In 2005 the New York Department of Education warned Trump that using the term University with his operation was illegal and misleading, and to cease & desist, for 5 years Trump continued to receive warnings but still use the term until being sued by the attorney general, and losing in 2010.

3) Under deposition Trump stated that everything he knew about real estate was in his published books, nothing different in the Trump U seminars.

4) Playbooks for Trump U were submitted as evidence and they give step by step instructions to the employees on how to stall law enforcement and manipulate their investigations, if they were to investigate.

5) Trump U playbook goes into extreme detail on how to juice prospects for more and more money to take more seminars, for tens of thousands of dollars, that teach nothing you couldn't learn from his books.

So Trump was warned he was breaking the law, continues to do so, is sued by the AG, loses, changes the company name, instructs Trump U franchises across the country on how to stall/manipulate law enforcement/state ivestigators, and still continues to run the operation. RICO?

"RICO stands for the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (18 U.S.C. § 1961), a law that increases the severity of penalties for crimes performed in conjunction with organized crime."

Far-L 06-06-2016 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20942240)
I sensously doubt Trump is Far-L's guy.

The only good thing I could possibly see to Trump being prez would be selling "tribute" photos of his wife/wives.

When life gives you lemons... make daiquiris, get super drunk, and watch the whole damn place go up in flames while you whistle Garryowan.



woj 06-06-2016 11:49 AM

it's comical watching you guys call Trump U a scam/fraud/etc... if he had an affil program that paid 20%... everyone here would signup and magically the students that paid $30k for seminars/consulting would no longer be called "victims", but would be described as "whales"... :error :1orglaugh

Bladewire 06-06-2016 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20943632)
it's comical watching you guys call Trump U a scam/fraud/etc... if he had an affil program that paid 20%... everyone here would signup and magically the students that paid $30k for seminars/consulting would no longer be called "victims", but would be described as "whales"... :error :1orglaugh

Not everyone thanks

Rochard 06-06-2016 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20943404)
Great find! Interesting.

The facts so far that show this is entirely feesible:

1) 10/2014 Supreme Court Judge Kern rules that Trump was so personally involved in running the operation that the corporate vail is pierced and Trump is personally liable for any case involving Trump U.

2) In 2005 the New York Department of Education warned Trump that using the term University with his operation was illegal and misleading, and to cease & desist, for 5 years Trump continued to receive warnings but still use the term until being sued by the attorney general, and losing in 2010.

3) Under deposition Trump stated that everything he knew about real estate was in his published books, nothing different in the Trump U seminars.

4) Playbooks for Trump U were submitted as evidence and they give step by step instructions to the employees on how to stall law enforcement and manipulate their investigations, if they were to investigate.

5) Trump U playbook goes into extreme detail on how to juice prospects for more and more money to take more seminars, for tens of thousands of dollars, that teach nothing you couldn't learn from his books.

So Trump was warned he was breaking the law, continues to do so, is sued by the AG, loses, changes the company name, instructs Trump U franchises across the country on how to stall/manipulate law enforcement/state ivestigators, and still continues to run the operation. RICO?

"RICO stands for the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (18 U.S.C. § 1961), a law that increases the severity of penalties for crimes performed in conjunction with organized crime."

This is gonna be bad.

Tubthumper 06-06-2016 12:03 PM

Too many anti-Trump phaggots on GFY.

Rochard 06-06-2016 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20943632)
it's comical watching you guys call Trump U a scam/fraud/etc... if he had an affil program that paid 20%... everyone here would signup and magically the students that paid $30k for seminars/consulting would no longer be called "victims", but would be described as "whales"... :error :1orglaugh

I disagree. All of us have had programs that converted well, but you got complaints from members saying it was a rip off or not worth it. When that happens, you pull links.

Rochard 06-06-2016 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20943404)

So Trump was warned he was breaking the law, continues to do so, is sued by the AG, loses, changes the company name, instructs Trump U franchises across the country on how to stall/manipulate law enforcement/state ivestigators, and still continues to run the operation. RICO?

"RICO stands for the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (18 U.S.C. § 1961), a law that increases the severity of penalties for crimes performed in conjunction with organized crime."

RICO was meant to take on the Mafia - and make sure they stay in prison for a long time.

The best part is Trump University gave specific instructions on what to do if the attorney general came around asking questions. What kind of company has to give it's employees instructions on how to handle law enforcement, the FBI, or the Attorney General?

Yet Trump is walking around claiming Hillary is crooked. LOL.

woj 06-06-2016 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20943680)
I disagree. All of us have had programs that converted well, but you got complaints from members saying it was a rip off or not worth it. When that happens, you pull links.

says the guy that used to work for an adult dating company? a type of business that isn't exactly known for honest practices? :helpme

I don't blame you, we all have kids to feed, and I'm sure you had nothing to do with any shadiness if there was any, but don't kid yourself, if you could put up Trump U links on your site, and collect few thousand per day, you would do it... especially considering Trump U ran a 10x more honest operation than most adult dating sites... :2 cents:

dyna mo 06-06-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20943698)

Yet Trump is walking around claiming Hillary is crooked. LOL.

hillary is crooked. Trump has nothing to do with that.

Bladewire 06-06-2016 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20943758)
hillary is crooked. Trump has nothing to do with that.

Has she ever lost a lawsuit or been convicted of a crime?

dyna mo 06-06-2016 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20943767)
Has she ever lost a lawsuit or been convicted of a crime?

you're one of the smarter GFYers. i know for a fact you can grasp how politicians can be crooked and yet not been convicted.

Jigster715 06-06-2016 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20943767)
Has she ever lost a lawsuit or been convicted of a crime?

Not yet...but its probably coming.



https://youtu.be/r7e6gLht6OQ

flashfire 06-06-2016 01:35 PM

no matter who wins the election (its Hillary FYI spoiler alert)

the butt-hurt is gonna be awesome!

Bladewire 06-06-2016 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20943776)
you're one of the smarter GFYers. i know for a fact you can grasp how politicians can be crooked and yet not been convicted.

Like I've said before, Trumps offensive strategy is to put the opposition on the defensive by labeling them with your own weaknesses. When they hit back, its reactionary and is less likely to stick. Politics sucks and way too many variables all around to even know if the GOP will stick with Trump after the RICO ruling that comes the day before the convention.

Rochard 06-06-2016 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20943752)
... but don't kid yourself, if you could put up Trump U links on your site, and collect few thousand per day, you would do it... especially considering Trump U ran a 10x more honest operation than most adult dating sites... :2 cents:

No, I wouldn't. And I've pulled links when I believe a company is shady.

You have some warped image of the adult industry.

We had a leak in one of our bathrooms and it cost thousands of dollars to fix. I think plumbers are shady.

woj 06-06-2016 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20944184)
No, I wouldn't. And I've pulled links when I believe a company is shady.

You have some warped image of the adult industry.

We had a leak in one of our bathrooms and it cost thousands of dollars to fix. I think plumbers are shady.

except maybe aggressive salesmanship, which is far from a "scam", I don't see anything shady about Trump U... which part do you consider shady? that he was selling a dream that only perhaps 10% will achieve? How is it his fault that 90% don't have what it takes to be RE investors? Shady because there were upsells? that's common practice in many businesses...

where exactly was the scam?

pimpmaster9000 06-06-2016 05:59 PM

Trump was so broke he went WSO with trump U har har har!

crockett 06-06-2016 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20943758)
hillary is crooked. Trump has nothing to do with that.

..and of course the judge is a Mexican hater.

crockett 06-06-2016 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20944199)
except maybe aggressive salesmanship, which is far from a "scam", I don't see anything shady about Trump U... which part do you consider shady? that he was selling a dream that only perhaps 10% will achieve? How is it his fault that 90% don't have what it takes to be RE investors? Shady because there were upsells? that's common practice in many businesses...

where exactly was the scam?

Yes, I'm with you, obviously a company that was forced out of Texas due to fraud is totally legit!!

woj 06-06-2016 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20944229)
Yes, I'm with you, obviously a company that was forced out of Texas due to fraud is totally legit!!

thanks for clearing things up... so you don't know where the scam is yourself? you are just assuming it must be a scam because you read on some news site that they were "forced out of Texas"?

crockett 06-06-2016 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20944235)
thanks for clearing things up... so you don't know where the scam is yourself? you are just assuming it must be a scam because you read on some news site that they were "forced out of Texas"?

Yes, obviously Trump is just a victim here. Damn those Mexican haters. I bet it was Hillary that put them up to it..

Horatio Caine 06-06-2016 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20944199)
except maybe aggressive salesmanship, which is far from a "scam", I don't see anything shady about Trump U... which part do you consider shady? that he was selling a dream that only perhaps 10% will achieve? How is it his fault that 90% don't have what it takes to be RE investors? Shady because there were upsells? that's common practice in many businesses...

where exactly was the scam?

aggressive salesmanship my ass :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh They had manuals specifically instructing how to target elderly people. Good lord. Entire TV show American Greed on MSNBC is dedicated to this sort of aggressive salesmanship :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Far-L 06-06-2016 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20944199)
except maybe aggressive salesmanship, which is far from a "scam", I don't see anything shady about Trump U... which part do you consider shady? that he was selling a dream that only perhaps 10% will achieve? How is it his fault that 90% don't have what it takes to be RE investors? Shady because there were upsells? that's common practice in many businesses...

where exactly was the scam?

Start with calling it a "University" and take it from there.

Just like previous educated and intelligent minds did. :2 cents:

woj 06-06-2016 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20944286)
aggressive salesmanship my ass :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh They had manuals specifically instructing how to target elderly people. Good lord. Entire TV show American Greed on MSNBC is dedicated to this sort of aggressive salesmanship :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

so what that they had manuals? car dealers have manuals too... young couple shows up, you pitch them car A while highlighting x, y and z features.... mid-life-crisis male shows up, you pitch him car B highlighting n, p and q features, etc...

same with Trump courses, you use different sales pitch based on potential customer's age/gender/etc... nothing shady about that at all, it's just aggressive salesmanship like I said...

Horatio Caine 06-06-2016 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20944295)
so what that they had manuals? car dealers have manuals too... young couple shows up, you pitch them car A while highlighting x, y and z features.... mid-life-crisis male shows up, you pitch him car B highlighting n, p and q features, etc...

same with Trump courses, you use different sales pitch based on potential customer's age/gender/etc... nothing shady about that at all, it's just aggressive salesmanship like I said...

Right, thats why multiple DAs filed charges. Just because they are all mexican and hate great USA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Cut the shit.

Documents show aggressive sales tactics at Trump University

They were selling air.. Emotions. Not knowledge.

Quote:

"You don't sell products, benefits or solutions ? you sell feelings," according to the sales playbook.
Quote:

For those who have hit credit limits, employees are told to suggest they dip into savings or identify other "seed capital."
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

plaster 06-06-2016 07:15 PM

Trump is going to crush polls tomorrow even though nobody is running against him.

He's going to get more individual votes then both hillary and Bernie and then in general election half Bernie voters are going to vote for trump.

Write that down boys and girls.

noshit 06-06-2016 07:22 PM

Yet Another Upside Down Nolt Thread.
These Bushwackin' Castration Lovers want you to live Fucked and Yet More Fucked than you have been... Just like them..!

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dyna mo 06-06-2016 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20944226)
..and of course the judge is a Mexican hater.

You're taking correlation to a whole another level!

High5!


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