It's only an insult if you have thin skin, I'm sorry you get easily offended by every comment. I'm really really sorry you go through life like that :(

I'm trying to sound smart so coup will stay and talk to me after sex next time. :(

markham, you're not even aware of the difference between sales and marketing.

markham, you're not even aware of the trite expression you're screwing up, it's "sell the sizzle, not the steak", it's not "sell the sauce, not the burger".

markham, you've been banned repeatedly for being a troll here, not me.

markham, you've been perma-banned here for being a troll, not me.

markham, if what you know is so special and a gift, then why are you not living it, instead living in a hut in a village screwing up self-help slogans trying to tell everyone else how to do it.

heads up: you're a stalking faggot. of course i don't give psycho mental freak stalking faggots my info.

Problem is that porn used to be a rare commodity and suddenly everyone can produce it with their smartphones. There is no reason to pay for it...ESPECIALLY...commercially produced crap that is clearly made with disinterested whores who do a bad job "acting" and have really bad fake tits.

Not hot.

People still pay for porn they like soooo

I said you insulted people then ask for their knowledge, that's stupid. It's a pussy move to apologize to someone then in the next sentence try to piss them off.

I did not say I was offended. Your stupidity is your own and doesn't affect my life one bit :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm really sorry you keep replying to me. I'm sorry I make it easy for you to not care and type that on an internet forum but you do end up typing back to me and caring. I'm sorry that happens to you. :(:(

Agree with the last part. :thumbsup

Netflix has heaps of content and exclusive content. They charge like $10 a month and you guys want $20+ a month for your disinterested whores.

Someone on gfy explained exactly what to do to have a successful site in the tube era. It had nothing to do with hamburgers or any other analogy. Sorry paul. I know you're the oldest but that doesn't automatically make you the wisest. :winkwink:



Oh, and PS. I ain't gay. Coup comes over and fucks my wife, not me! :)
But he still leaves without saying goodbye. :(

Yes. I have sold from them. I would assume most people would take it for written that Youtube and Vimeo help sales. Even Pornhub has sold porn memberships.

Probably a loser who takes out his depression on GFY.

That's the good part of this. It flies over the heads of a lot of people.

Spot on. So don't try to sell it like we did in the 90s and 2000s. Package it differently, show that your porn has that extra special something. Bottled Water does it.

Disinterested actresses aren't a problem. Tell them to go home. The problem is for people who don;t get this, can't handle models or think shooting the same scene over and over again of Russian teens, then packaging it as if it's different. Is the way to sell. Once a member has downloaded one lot of their stuff, why join any of the others to get more of the same?

Pornstars with fake tits can be used to do this. They just have to be managed properly or not given the work.

That's the only reason I'm on the internet.



Porn spokesmodels aren't that hard of a a concept to grasp. But, if we aren't shooting our own content it doesn't help.

yet, you have those faketaxi, facedoctor sites or czechcash sites with girls who cant speak a word of english and with subtitles selling really well.
the last thing that i would ever imagine is going to sell well, is the porn with subtitles..

I prefer schnitzels ...

Good point! :thumbsup

The problem is that you're whining about a topic you havo 0 knowledge and experience about: selling paysite memberships. Aren't you a retired not-successful content shooter?

Why the fuck you cry all the time on this subject? I guess your old buddies with outdated marketing/sales 'knowledge' cry rivers about this.. and you come here and annoy the shit out of ppl.. retire oldready!!!!! FOR REAL!!!

If pornsites or camsites, even less than mainstream dating sites could buy advertising on youtube videos -- then there would be something to talk about. Putting up a video on youtube and getting a few hundred views is nowhere.

Search 'xlovecam' on youtube and you will see; we and our affiliates have uploaded many videos -- with less than 'outstanding' results. You need to get better than 100,000 views with no nudity. Granted, our models are not great actresses without using their fingers or dildos.

Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, other social media are guerrilla marketing -- you cannot use your money budget to brand or get impressions. They simply do not want your money -- it's bad for their overall business strategy for mainstream and family entertainment.

I have a big mainstream move coming up that can utilize, and we plan to utilize, social media and Youtube -- but it is not porn and it is "G" rated. There we can throw money and personnel at it in an effort to get some top-of-mind branding advertising. I can get much better returns advertising our camsite in paid media more cost efficiently.

You have to remember-- you have no editorial control in social media -- you can have your account closed at any time for any TOS violation reason.

I was talking about the other troll.

This isn't the only way to make a product more attractive to some, these days.

You hit the nail on the head with the models. Those kind of models or producers are left behind. This is about getting surfers interested in the models.

This isn't for affiliates. They can only use the content that's given to them.

I counted the first ten scenes of Fake Taxi on Pornhub, they have 500 videos on Pornhub alone. 31,221,461 views and all enough to satisfy the most ardent fan of girls no one knows fucked in the back of vehicles, could ever hope for.

Did 31 million views lead to 1,000 sign ups or what?

Let's assume it was that many. Over 31,200,000 didn't like, weren't hooked or were satisfied enough to not buy. And there are some interesting scenes there.

The problem is some must like it a lot, but wth 500 to choose from and more going up all the time. Why buy?

31,220 have a very good answer to that. We won't while you give us no reasons and keep adding to the lack of need to buy.

However they can change this by giving people a reason to buy.

Which one of these are about your webcam models or sites? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=xlovecam

If any, you're doing it wrong. Should you want more advice. Let's sort out a pay deal. However, it works best with girls who can speak to your main customer base.

Yes we know the problems with social media, at no point do I think this should be stuck with social media.

OK Paul, I'll can pay you 35% of the revenue you create and and I'll let you negotiate and pay for the content. You can create any content you want as long as it is acceptable to us as not defamatory and you have the model's consent with broadcast copyright.

You can make written offers to our models for any of their exiting VIP clips or exclusive (your script) -- we have 1000's of them. You don't have to pay them cash, you can offer trade for services if you like, read; traffic to the model. I can format the model's clip in MP4. Try selling a model on the idea LOL PAY ME! PAY ME! Cannot wait to see you try to negotiate with a cam model -- she may eat you alive like a tiger.

I pay for performance at 35% you get the lion's share of the profit. I know I am doing it all the wrong way we gross millions a month :2 cents: We don't know what we are doing :1orglaugh

I don't think the cost of production in advance for a "advertising" venue I cannot control, nor can I have editorial oversight over, is an acceptable risk. It's not like we don't have $10K to spend -- we spend that much in a matter of days on ads. If you want a guarantee -- buy a kitchen appliance.

I am not going to pay for my ticket to ''row the boat'' of the social media or porn tube slave ship. I would be a fool to do that. I don't work for Google or Tubes other than to buy their traffic popunders and Adwords (Paid SE ads we do Bing ads also). Tube traffic is not that productive -- they have many here buffaloed. Tubes, including Youtube, have the lowest converting traffic and are really for branding -- not conversion nor directive advertising.

Porn Tube roll out video ads don't work well either -- we tried that.

I am not stopping you from investing $5K or $10K in your great idea that you believe in.
When we pay an affiliate 35% we make very little of the 15% left after paying operational costs. So the money is there and there are all kinds of adult websites that offer you similar profit splits. I know we are good for the money you might make -- many others are good of the cash too.

Put YOUR money on the wood and show us.

Grays Law: 65% of the time you are wrong -- make sure the 35% of the time you are right that you are long on profits.

Markham, you're the troll that been banned repeatedly not me.

Markham, you're the troll that got permabanned not me.

Markham your the troll that is troll of the year not me.

Markham your the troll that tells everyone they should be doing their thing your way not me

Think seriously about the meaning of this: They don't build casinos because they lose money :2 cents:

Mr Burns on casinos: Fools come in and empty their pockets then leave.

Excellent.

''exactamundo''

If anyone can prove a stratagem, beyond some statistical anomaly, in a PROVEN profitable advertising media (that I am not currently doing) I could find $20K immediately to execute the strategy.

Show me a 30% net return within 12 months (30% per annum) I can possibly arrange high six figure+ financing for that in a VERY short period of time.

Show me the money FIRST!

Show me your books and your bank statement if you want investment money -- or collateral that is attachable.

Yeah he seemed cool at first but he's gone off the deep end turning very negative & creepy. Best blocked. I think him & JasonG are the same "anonymous" non industry person.

right. i'm the creep because i respectfully declined your aggressively pursuing me to go elsewhere to chat with you and for asking you respectfully to respect online privacy, while you lash out at others claiming they're me/i'm them.

if that makes me a creep, i'm totally fine with that.

You clearly do not get this. As shown by the clips on YT.

It can't be done by bored Third World Models who can't speak English. It has to be taught to the models and studio owners.

And if you think webcam girls aren't making money on Social Media, I have news fo you.

However if you have models who want to make more money, speak English and willing to learn. Get them to hit me up on Skype. paulmarkham1

The ads work perfectly. You get traffic from them. They have done their job. What's wrong is 1,000s land on your sites and none are interested enough to spend money.

Everyone knows advertising works very very well. If it didn't there would be no Tubes, TV, magazines,etc. The job of an ad to get people aware of a product. In the ads that are paid by clicks buyers only pay for the clicks. People are landing on your site, the problem is your site, the lack of training the girls get, the lack of girls who can inspire 1-1,000 to buy something.

99.9% of the people clicking your ads don't want to buy what you offer. If you can't see that, I'm not investing my money in your product.

I ca prove my success by being in business for so long.

Can I sell a product that can't convert well enough to make ads pay?

As for webcam girls not making money on Social Media. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The problem is can I make it work with your girls and set up if you can't?

Exactly. Google didn't build to what it is because ads don't work. Tubes don't exist because none of the ads work.

The problem isn't the ads of the traffic, the problem is the product and the way you market it.

Posting as a nobody is easy on forums like GFY.

I exist, videos of me doing business are online, 7 years after retiring I show up at shows. Anyone can find me and chat to me on Skype.

The problem for these guys is if we find out who they are, we find out they're not to be bothered with. My biggest stalker is now unemployed, on benefits and nothing is going to change.