The leads are weak.

No one is buying.

The traffic doesn't convert.



Truth, the selling is weak, no one is selling, the traffic does convert, social media marketing works great.

Two salesmen went to a tropical island. One phoned home and said, no one here wears shoes so I'm coming back. The other phoned te office and said, send a container full of shoes. No one here has any.

The problem with a lot of online porn is it doesn't sell the product, it just hopes people will buy what they off which in most cases isn't very good. Many hope that if 30,000 see their ad or clip, enough will click on the link and someone will buy. More worried about the colour of the button, telling people to click here. Than making people want to see more.

If 1,000 see a clip and don't buy. The problem is with the system and product.

Too late to change the system, online porn was determined to give away so much the need to buy was destroyed for most. So change the ad and the product.



The traffic isn't weak, the problem is she's boring. OK she's pretty, but so what?

Now tell me someone will like it and prove my point.

I offered you 35% of the sales -- not a blank check -- deal with it ...

I turned it down because I'm not sending traffic to a site that doesn't convert very well.

Deal with it and more will send more traffic that converts better.

If you can't then put me in touch with the people who can deal with it.

OK

LMAO

Spend you own money with a better sponsor then ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfdr9bvXEAAfSrg.jpg

There are 10,00s of people sitting around and waiting for someone to buy. Blaming other factors for the lack of buyers.

And 100s out there making money by selling their product to people who don't want to buy, don't want to pay, don't want to pay so much. While others were taking orders for chipboard furniture at a couple of hundred pounds. I was selling top of the range furniture for £1,000s.

While some sites can't convert ad traffic others can. While some can sell on social media, others claim social media doesn't work.

The difference is the approach. A positive attitude, a conviction that people will buy, all it takes is having something that allows salesmen to turn them from browsers into buyers.

Webcam girl, porn girl, content creator, producer, director are the people who can start that process. Shoot girls not at work looking bored, doing what every other girl does. If with the 20-year-old samples I showed. Those who don't get it, never will unless they employ people who do get it and can train others to do it. Saying throw traffic at what I have and hope if someone buys it, isn't marketing and never selling.

Giving away the finished product in the hope someone will pay for it, isn't marketing and never selling.

Marketing is creating a product with attributes others don't have, so salesmen can emphasise those attributes and instead of hoping someone likes it, making people like it. Even making people want it and willing to pay.

Webcam companies that rely on Third World Studios with Third world bored models will find this tough. Which is why in the West so many girls won't work for studios. They work independently and don't give away 35% to someone throwing mud at a wall. They sell themselves. The people in the webcam studio business know how it's done it's no secret. They're unable to change. So no rubbishing a concept that's working for others.

The present Third World studio system will continue to decline as more girls go freelance and convert more surfers into buyers. Just like the paysites that threw up crap content and hoped someone liked it.

Sure, but unfortunately snuff films are illegal.

Paul BLA BLA BLA

Visit the Affiliate sign up page on xlovecash and you can prove it to me; OR if it's more to your liking,

Sign up on another camsite or any type affiliate site for that matter -- do your thing and give me the log in to your stats pages there -- I'll tell everyone the truth.

I like to see new things that really work any make money. But getting lucky and making hundreds is not impressive -- tens of thousands is interesting ... Show me were this really works and makes money and I may PERSONALLY bankroll it. But I see no ''proof of concept'' just emphatic words. There is lots of venture capital chasing few money making ideas especially now with the digital disruption going on.

As you don't understand this thread. Why keep replying?

Clearly your site doesn't convert very well, you admitted it in the thread you started about traffic. No matter how much a person tries a busted car isn't going anywhere. https://gfy.com/20969428-post8.html you don't have the inclination to improve your site.

The proof is everywhere in girls not working for studios like the ones you use and preferring to go freelance.

A product with little to no difference to its competitors is hard to market. A different bedsheet doesn't make a scene unique, nor does a different girl doing the same action. It's about as different as a Red Ford Focus or a maroon Ford Focus.

Waiting for a whale to bite on a hook, that has no difference to all te other hooks. Is losing money. To those who sit and think it through.

Back in the day shooting for magazines a days shoot could cost $1,000. Get the right girl, setting, lighting, focus and I was guaranteed a very profitable day. Getting it wrong and I was guaranteed to lose $1,000. There was no slinging mud at a wall and hoping.

Same when I was selling, I didn't waste my time to chase people who would never buy, with a product they didn't want.

Today many here do. I say did, as now they're gone. No matter what your site does it's paramount to make it different from the rest. Gspotproductions is different in that it's about an individual with a personality. No matter about looks, Natalie will convert better than all those cloned girls who are only doing it for the money doing a 30 scene with no emotion anytime.

Take her commitment, personality, fun, desire, empathy with fans of her niche and put it into a good looking girl and you have a winner. For a different type of site.

We see this all the time. Surfers don't want Amateur because they want a badly shot scene. They want to see models fuck for the fun of it and not the money. They want to believe this is a girl they could meet, lives in their town or she's just like the girls they know, just revealing a secret side.

Some pornstars have the ability to open themselves up. No matter how jaded they are, a creative producer can get something out of them. The uncreative ones just point a camera and hope.

https://vimeo.com/home/myvideos

See me at work.

We bought a new TV 2 weeks ago. Went to one shop and it was clear the no one gave a shit if we bought. So I went to a different shop and bought. The TV we bought had all the attributes we wanted and they were all displayed clearly. And if you need proof my system works. You shouldn't be involved in selling, even oranges by the on-ramp to a freeway.

I have the money to do this and you don't -- end of discussion.

BLA BLA BLA wall of text -- Social media -- and Mainstream Tube sites (for adult content) are are places where you have no editorial control and they can delete your work at any time. That is Guerrilla for small timers -- like you I guess.

Time is money for real businesses.
You don't see this in a real world context -- just in your fantasy land.
Paul, ACwebconnecting sells millions a month not one fucking TV ... My largest personal lifetime sale was $285,000 in one transaction -- not one fucking TV for a few hundred. I don't need sales lessons -- trust me.


Put your money where you mouth is -- PROVE IT! You can't or won't which is it?

My offer stands -- Put up or STFU already

This isn't about money, it's about skills of the producers.

It's not reliant on Social Media, it's reliant on skills. Social Media is full of girls using the system.

I'm not spending money on a product that can't compete with others buying the same traffic.

One sale that makes a lot is null and void if to get that sale costs as much because the people who didn't buy cost more.

Barry, you refuse to see how this works, you ask for evidence when it's all around you. Ask me to send traffic to your site that lacks the elements I'm writing about. The question is why do you refuse to see it?

Are all your sites already using this system, do so many of your girls lack the skills to do this, maybe you have no control over the studios, or what? I suspect it's the last two.

https://www.xlovecam.com/en/#SpicyCrystal she looks bored.

https://www.xlovecam.com/en/# show me where these girls are marketed as individuals with something to offer, off the camsite. And we can go from there.

I'm having trouble finding new posts in this thread because they're all starting to look the same.

You cannot do it with your own money or you won't risk your own money to try it.
I offered thar you refer to ANY place where you could prove the concept to make money -- you answer with total bullshit. If you don't think you can convert xlovecam do it with a porn or cam site that you like and PROVE your idea to everyone, Show us dummies how to do it the Markham way -- I don't think you can -- Prove me wrong -- you could make millions and be able tell us : "I told you so!".
Everybody is wrong and Paul Markham is so smart :1orglaugh

1 in 5000 camgirls have a great personality. Hire a professional actress and pay her $20K to get semi-naked, write a great script for $5K = spend $25K to make $2K net profit? Think you can do better PROVE it to me with YOUR money. Then we will all want to invest. No one is interested is losing money on bullshit.

Now, if you want to use social media, including Youtube for top-of-mind branding and have a portion of a marketing budget set aside for that -- with no anticipated hard dollar returns from sales conversions -- the concepts in you idea might work.

If you want to use Facebook or Twitter for mainstream consumer product marketing, creative advertising of discount offers, flash sales or other special promotions -- you have my attention.

Using Youtube for any substantial marketing effort for porn or cams is fucking stupid. That is like walking into a room and farting -- you are not a welcome person -- you are just pushing the fringe of the AUP -- they don't want porn or links to porn (or sexually explicit) sites. Do you always go where you are not wanted and fart in the room to announce your arrival?

they all spit it