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bronco67 06-15-2016 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20965258)
I am still not too fond of Hillary, but.... She has a flawless track record. She was First Lady, Senator, and then Secretary Of State. No one can really point out anything bad about anything she has done.

The Republican party is desperately trying to paint her as being bad, and while the Republican base is sucking this up the rest of us just aren't seeing this. There was no indication of any wrong doing in Benghazi yet we've had ten investigations into this, all of which have proven to clear everyone of wrong doing. The email scandal is blown way out of proportion, and some bad decisions were made, but this was common policy at the State Department and as well as both Congress and the Senate.

The Republican party is trying to paint Hillary Clinton has being "crooked" while the reality is she has never been charged with a crime.

On the other hand, we have Donald Trump who is going to trial in November in one of four pending lawsuits. Trump has been involved in over three thousand lawsuits, and has been sued by the federal government more than one hundred times. Let me repeat that - Trump has been sued by the federal government more than one hundred times. In the past year, seventy lawsuits have been filed against Trump.

One of the things I didn't understand about the other Republican candidates was why they never went after Trump. Trump loves the press, there is thirty or forty years of bad press, and all of it is documented. Need an example? Trump got in trouble for how he handled his emails too.

Pick between the lesser of two evils, but.... One of them has never been charged with a crime while the other has been sued by the federal government over one hundred times, refuses to release his tax records, and is going to trial in one of four court cases about Trump University, which is only four of seventy lawsuits filed in the past year.

her also sounds like an uninformed moron when he speaks. You forgot that.

bronco67 06-15-2016 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 20965291)
When is the Trump -vs- Clinton debate?

It's not going to be so much a debate, as it will be Hillary Clinton expressing detailed policies and positions on complex global and domestic issues, vs Trump calling her crooked and making misinformed, ignorant statements while not once answering a single question directly and coherently.

Rochard 06-15-2016 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20965411)
The IRS should be dismantled. We are taxed on everything we buy and use. April 14th is just another big fuck you. Trump is a lying cheating crook.

This is why Trump won't release his taxes. He's spent the past forty years trying to avoid paying taxes as much as possible. Nothing wrong with that, but he takes it to extremes. The Federal Government has sued him to get their money.

Rochard 06-15-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20965546)
her also sounds like an uninformed moron when he speaks. You forgot that.

Well, then there is that too.

Yesterday he actually said we should have sent the Orlando Shooter "back home" before he had the chance to do this. So, we should have sent him home to... New York?

Bladewire 06-15-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20965690)
This is why Trump won't release his taxes. He's spent the past forty years trying to avoid paying taxes as much as possible. Nothing wrong with that, but he takes it to extremes. The Federal Government has sued him to get their money.

The thing about Trump is he's extreme to a stupid degree. He pushes it to the point of getting caught, litigation, then losing and having to pay more. He doesn't deserve to be President for the simple fact he's stupid enough to continuously get caught!

flashfire 06-15-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20964614)

looks legit

Rochard 06-15-2016 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20965312)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Deserves own thread:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...e-hitlary.html

Well, can you name something bad she did as Senator? I can't. Did she fuck something up there?

Can you name something bad that Hillary did when she worked for the State Department? That's a little bit more tricky.

Republicans will shout "Benghazi" but, Benghazi was a terrorist attack. Short of invading Libya with ten thousand US Marines twenty-four hours after the fact, there really isn't anything we could have done.

You can try to argue we had a "failed policy" in Libya, but honestly, this was twenty years in the making, and when the country collapsed.... Well, we've been fucking with Muammar Gaddafi so finally the United States did something about it.

Can you also argue Syria, but... Whatever. This is in the Russian sphere of influence, and again, win win for the United States. The leader of Syria, which the United States has always hated, is the head of a failed state, Russia has had to step in, it's keeping Russia busy.

ISIS? How is that he fault of the United States? The United States set Iraq on it's own; After all we supported them for over ten years and it's time for us to move on. If it wasn't ISIS it would have been another terrorist group or another one. By the way, ISIS is now pretty much destroyed.

So again, I ask you, what exactly has Hillary fucked up in the Senate or the State Department?

Rochard 06-15-2016 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20965699)
The thing about Trump is he's extreme to a stupid degree. He pushes it to the point of getting caught, litigation, then losing and having to pay more. He doesn't deserve to be President for the simple fact he's stupid enough to continuously get caught!

Trump's problem is he used to handling a handful of people in a boardroom who WANT to do business with him and will agree with anything he says and never question it. He doesn't understand that everything he says will be questioned and ripped apart - and come back to bite him.

And Trump has a long documented trail of stuff he's said. LOL, I"m surprised they haven't started playing his Howard Stern interviews.

dyna mo 06-15-2016 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20965732)
Well, can you name something bad she did as Senator? I can't. Did she fuck something up there?

Can you name something bad that Hillary did when she worked for the State Department? That's a little bit more tricky.

Republicans will shout "Benghazi" but, Benghazi was a terrorist attack. Short of invading Libya with ten thousand US Marines twenty-four hours after the fact, there really isn't anything we could have done.

You can try to argue we had a "failed policy" in Libya, but honestly, this was twenty years in the making, and when the country collapsed.... Well, we've been fucking with Muammar Gaddafi so finally the United States did something about it.

Can you also argue Syria, but... Whatever. This is in the Russian sphere of influence, and again, win win for the United States. The leader of Syria, which the United States has always hated, is the head of a failed state, Russia has had to step in, it's keeping Russia busy.

ISIS? How is that he fault of the United States? The United States set Iraq on it's own; After all we supported them for over ten years and it's time for us to move on. If it wasn't ISIS it would have been another terrorist group or another one. By the way, ISIS is now pretty much destroyed.

So again, I ask you, what exactly has Hillary fucked up in the Senate or the State Department?


you are completely clueless to facts, life, and the world around you.

Rochard 06-15-2016 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20965765)
you are completely clueless to facts, life, and the world around you.

Again, I am not a fan of Hillary.

But you have Trump calling Hillary "crooked" while she's never been charged with a crime, while Trump is going to court AGAIN - for the 3500th time not to mention the other 70 lawsuits currently pending.

Yet here you are saying I am "completely clueless to facts" without bringing any facts.

I haven't been following Hillary's career but I have yet to hear the Republican party come forward with one bad thing Hillary has done other then Benghazi and emails.

Again I ask exactly what has Hillary done wrong / bad / poorly while working in the Senate or State Department?

Bladewire 06-15-2016 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20965777)
Again, I am not a fan of Hillary.

But you have Trump calling Hillary "crooked" while she's never been charged with a crime, while Trump is going to court AGAIN - for the 3500th time not to mention the other 70 lawsuits currently pending.

Yet here you are saying I am "completely clueless to facts" without bringing any facts.

I haven't been following Hillary's career but I have yet to hear the Republican party come forward with one bad thing Hillary has done other then Benghazi and emails.

Again I ask exactly what has Hillary done wrong / bad / poorly while working in the Senate or State Department?

Rochard, he's not even a part of our industry. He's a ghost too, pretty sure he has more than one extra fake account as well. You're wasting your time with him, he's just here to instigate & judge while hiding everything about himself like a coward pussy bitch.

Just block him you'll be better off trust me.

dyna mo 06-15-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20965783)
Rochard, he's not even a part of our industry. He's a ghost too, pretty sure he has more than one extra fake account as well. You're wasting your time with him, he's just here to instigate & judge while hiding everything about him like a coward pussy bitch.

Just block him you'll be better off trust me.

oh look it's the faggot stalker still butthurt because i declined his stalking advances to suck my cock.

dyna mo 06-15-2016 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20965777)
Yet here you are saying I am "completely clueless to facts" without bringing any facts.

no. my post was a fact, you're clueless.

i'm not going to waste my time trying to change that about you.

420 06-15-2016 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20963906)
Hillary has not promised to make america great again. Would not bang (her name on the ballot).

I have been informed that she invented the idea of making america great again. :headexplodes

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REVIVING THE AMERICAN IDEA

Seasoned, clear-eyed leadership can take us far. We must draw on all the dimensions of American power and reject false choices driven by ideology rather than facts. An America that rebuilds its strength and recovers its principles will be an America that can spread the blessings of security and opportunity around the world.

In 1825, 50 years after the Battle of Bunker Hill, the great secretary of state Daniel Webster laid the cornerstone of the Bunker Hill Monument that stands today in Boston. He exulted in the simple fact that America had survived and flourished, and he celebrated "the benefit which the example of our country has produced, and is likely to produce, on human freedom and human happiness." He gloried not in American power but rather in the power of the American idea, the idea that "with wisdom and knowledge men may govern themselves." And he urged his audience, and all Americans, to maintain this example and "take care that nothing may weaken its authority with the world."

Two centuries later, our economic power and military might have grown beyond anything that our forefathers could have imagined. But that power and might can only be sustained and renewed if we can regain our authority with the world, the authority not simply of a large and wealthy nation but of the American idea. If we can live up to that idea, if we can exercise our power wisely and well, we can make America great again

She wrote that for foreign affairs magazine nov 2007 https://www.foreignaffairs.com/artic...-first-century

Rochard 06-15-2016 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20965783)
Rochard, he's not even a part of our industry. He's a ghost too, pretty sure he has more than one extra fake account as well. You're wasting your time with him, he's just here to instigate & judge while hiding everything about himself like a coward pussy bitch.

Just block him you'll be better off trust me.

He is blocked; I shouldn't be reading his posts but sometimes I cannot resist.

In the past ten or fifteen years, I have voted both Republican and Democratic. I don't believe one side is better than the other, but instead vote for who I believe is the right person. Yet in the past seven years I have just failed to understand the Republican party.

Obamacare is a great example. Everyone agrees we need some kind of a healthcare system, and two parties should have come together to fix this. The Democrats took a Republican plan (Romenycare!), made it their own, and the Republicans fought it every step of the way. After Obamacare got pushed through, the Republicans vowed to kill it. So this could only go one of two ways - Either they fail to kill Obamacare and look bad, or they kill Obamacare and tens of millions suddenly have no healthcare. Where is the logic in this? Either way they lose.

Could the Republican party have picked a worse candidate? We haven't even had the first debate and he's losing by double digits.

Rochard 06-15-2016 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20965798)
I have been informed that she invented the idea of making america great again. :headexplodes


She wrote that for foreign affairs magazine nov 2007 https://www.foreignaffairs.com/artic...-first-century

Yes, in 2007.... When the United States was being dragged down to it's worst economic recession in fifty years....

Bladewire 06-15-2016 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20965816)

Obamacare is a great example. Everyone agrees we need some kind of a healthcare system, and two parties should have come together to fix this. The Democrats took a Republican plan (Romenycare!), made it their own, and the Republicans fought it every step of the way. After Obamacare got pushed through, the Republicans vowed to kill it. So this could only go one of two ways - Either they fail to kill Obamacare and look bad, or they kill Obamacare and tens of millions suddenly have no healthcare. Where is the logic in this? Either way they lose.

Could the Republican party have picked a worse candidate? We haven't even had the first debate and he's losing by double digits.

Obama care is a big reason I was going to go Republican again this election. The way they pushed it through so it was HUGE windfall for insurance & drug companies turned me off. It needs to be drastically reformed to single payer. Drug & insurance companies have fucked us for 40 years and the gravy train is over.

The Republican party picked the worst candidate possible; a scamming crook with thousands of lawsuits who's lost federal cases and has three OPEN federal cases. Says how fucked the GOP is now.

dyna mo 06-15-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20965816)
He is blocked; I shouldn't be reading his posts but sometimes I cannot resist.

you have no clue who you've blocked or who you're high 5ing.

that's rochard, :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 06-15-2016 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20965816)

Could the Republican party have picked a worse candidate? We haven't even had the first debate and he's losing by double digits.

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20965837)

The Republican party picked the worst candidate possible; a scamming crook with thousands of lawsuits who's lost federal cases and has three OPEN federal cases. Says how fucked the GOP is now.

here's a good reason why it's a bad idea to block people.

the republican party didn't pick Trump. they've been not picking him for a year now. primary voters picked Trump.

if you didn't have me on ignore, you'd have just learned something. :)

420 06-15-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20965831)
Yes, in 2007.... When the United States was being dragged down to it's worst economic recession in fifty years....

I was high fiving hillary. Why does it seem like you think making america great is a bad thing? She should own it if she truly came up with her opponent's slogan. :2 cents:

Joshua G 06-15-2016 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20965816)
In the past ten or fifteen years, I have voted both Republican and Democratic. I don't believe one side is better than the other, but instead vote for who I believe is the right person.

strange. how many times have you said you dont care until there are 2 candidates. but since that comment, you have done nothing but suck hilary cock & nevertrump. but then you say you dont favor a side, whilst spitting out liberal media delusions as if your a programmed hilary-bot.

every post you make gives me comfort that trump will be the next president. your delusions are on par with bush in 2002 hyping us into iraq. hilary. dindu nuffin!!!

:1orglaugh

Bladewire 06-15-2016 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20965906)
I was high fiving hillary. Why does it seem like you think making america great is a bad thing? She should own it if she truly came up with her opponent's slogan. :2 cents:

I agree :2 cents:

Rochard 06-15-2016 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20965936)
strange. how many times have you said you dont care until there are 2 candidates. but since that comment, you have done nothing but suck hilary cock & nevertrump. but then you say you dont favor a side, whilst spitting out liberal media delusions as if your a programmed hilary-bot.

every post you make gives me comfort that trump will be the next president. your delusions are on par with bush in 2002 hyping us into iraq. hilary. dindu nuffin!!!

:1orglaugh

I am not for Hillary.

I am, however, completely in the "never Trump" camp. Long before Trump got into politics I thought he was an arrogant, self centered, pompous ass. He isn't a self made billionaire; He got his money from his parents and frankly he doesn't own anything - the banks seem to own everything he claims to own. He might be a millionaire but only barely so; He refuses to release his tax records so we'll never know.

Rochard 06-15-2016 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20965837)
Obama care is a big reason I was going to go Republican again this election. The way they pushed it through so it was HUGE windfall for insurance & drug companies turned me off. It needs to be drastically reformed to single payer. Drug & insurance companies have fucked us for 40 years and the gravy train is over.

The Republican party picked the worst candidate possible; a scamming crook with thousands of lawsuits who's lost federal cases and has three OPEN federal cases. Says how fucked the GOP is now.

Obamcare has it's flaws. However, no matter what it would have had it's flaws. It's too big and too complicated to get right on the very first try, and even more so when you have two sides of the government fighting over it.

As for the Republican party picking the wrong candidate.... I thought McCain was okay, although he was much better when he was younger. Pairing him with Palin was freaking insane. I think Romney would have done well, but honestly he was the wrong person at the wrong time - This was during the economic issues, and he wasn't the solution but instead he was part of the problem. Romney did what the banks did - set it up so that he could not fail while blowing through someone else's money. I liked Ryan.

There are a handful of Republicans I would have voted for over Hillary or Sanders. But none of them came close.

Bladewire 06-15-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20966185)
Obamcare has it's flaws. However, no matter what it would have had it's flaws. It's too big and too complicated to get right on the very first try, and even more so when you have two sides of the government fighting over it.

As for the Republican party picking the wrong candidate.... I thought McCain was okay, although he was much better when he was younger. Pairing him with Palin was freaking insane. I think Romney would have done well, but honestly he was the wrong person at the wrong time - This was during the economic issues, and he wasn't the solution but instead he was part of the problem. Romney did what the banks did - set it up so that he could not fail while blowing through someone else's money. I liked Ryan.

There are a handful of Republicans I would have voted for over Hillary or Sanders. But none of them came close.

True. I've been told that Obamacare is like a "gateway policy" a starting point to end up at Medicare for all / single payer. When the rest of the western world has affordable healthcare, and we don't, you know there's a problem.

pimpmaster9000 06-15-2016 04:46 PM

It would be top entertainment tho if both hillary and trump went to jail...it would be bush vs bernie and bush would win and it would be back to the future all over again

blackmonsters 06-15-2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20963981)
Fair enough... I think he speaks as a pissed off american wanting change... but that is just my take.


:1orglaugh

Joshua G 06-15-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20966179)
I am not for Hillary.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MiamiBoyz 06-15-2016 07:04 PM

When do you think was the last time Bill fucked that dykes fishy snatch?

Bladewire 06-15-2016 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20966695)
When do you think was the last time Bill fucked that dykes fishy snatch?

I think Liza Warren is married to a man, still could be dyke though.

Paul Markham 06-16-2016 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20965357)
New Evidence Donald Trump Didn?t Pay Taxes

Trump listed no income on that form, yet he deducted $626,264 as expenses. His New York City tax return also showed no income, but listed slightly less in expenses: $619,227.

He spent $12,000 a week and never got a bill. Is he stupid, walks around with wads of cash, or crooked?

Paul Markham 06-16-2016 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20965411)
The IRS should be dismantled. We are taxed on everything we buy and use. April 14th is just another big fuck you. Trump is a lying cheating crook.

Then big business will take over from government and bill you for everything. :upsidedow

Jigster715 06-16-2016 02:10 AM

This thread is filled with Divide and Conquer. On behalf of Hillary, Bill, Bloomberg, Obama and the rest of the Bilderberg members, past, present and future, we wholeheartedly thank you. Oh, and Goldman Sachs says, "Haha, Suckers!

Paul Markham 06-16-2016 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20965516)
The world will always change and advance. Sometimes the changes are for the better, sometimes for the worse. Regardless there is always change happening the world doesn't sit stagnet.

Normal people adapt and move forward. Stupid people try to hold back rivers with their hands.

This is why conservatism is a failed logic. Republicans need to go back to being fiscal conservatives and leave all this non sense hate agenda in the past.

Republican ideology is to make the rich richer, while saying you to can be rich. While making sure it rarely happens and making millions poorer. Trump has plugged into that with migration and imports. The general public earning less than $50,000 know both have made their life worse. Yes they can buy a shirt for $20, but can't get a job that pays enough, because the shirt was made in China.

And should they be well off enough, they can have their lawn mown or house extension built by a migrant. While most can't get those jobs because migrants undercut them.

Their voter base has realised they're being screwed and expected to vote for more screwing. All their candidates were offering more of the same and the exception was Trump. The problem is he only has answers idiots believe.

China has enough US debt and expected to buy more to fuck the US. A wall won't stop enough to make a change.

Unless both parties wake up, they will both lose or the US will continue to decline for most Americans.

Paul Markham 06-16-2016 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20965528)
i love these libby threads, reminds me to be grateful i am not led hook-in-mouth by the liberal media.

too bad so sad all you libbies are in blue states & your vote wont mean jack shit! only a handful of states will decide the election, i live in 1 of them.

turnout fellas. hopefully obama will beat ISIS before november...:1orglaugh

So you will vote for Sanders as he's not a liberal. :1orglaugh

Relic 07-12-2016 09:32 PM

Who saw Hillary endorsed by Sanders? What frauds.

Relic 04-21-2017 09:39 AM

http://i.imgur.com/9ZjgoQ6.jpg

crockett 04-21-2017 09:43 AM

someone is triggered.. must be the meth again.

Relic 04-21-2017 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21718162)
someone is triggered..

Yeah, you.

Bladewire 04-21-2017 09:54 AM






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