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Barry-xlovecam 06-17-2016 01:45 PM

Obama's reaction is playing into political gamesmanship too. Actually, letting Trump's badgering get to him was a mistake.

There is an old saying: First one to lose his cool in an argument loses. Obama got played -- have to give Trump credit for getting away with that. Making a non-issue a point of contention :2 cents:

Terrorists are terrorists regardless of their religion or ideology. What is the difference between the IRA Catholic terrorist and the ISIS Islamic terrorist, or for that matter the Nazi terrorist SS v. today's ideological terrorist -- not a fucking thing ...

dyna mo 06-17-2016 01:48 PM

i agree Barry, and the US can expect plenty more homegrown terrorist attacks with assault weapons.

dyna mo 06-17-2016 01:50 PM

this is san bernadino all over again,some gfyers exclaimed then that the mass shooter ISIS muslim extremist terrorists were just a pissed off employee.

Joshua G 06-17-2016 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20970874)
Terrorists are terrorists regardless of their religion or ideology. What is the difference between the IRA Catholic terrorist and the ISIS Islamic terrorist, or for that matter the Nazi terrorist SS v. today's ideological terrorist -- not a fucking thing ...

damnit! the difference is the commitment by the good guys to destroy them! OMG do you think we beat the nazis with kumbaya & sit-ins???

please, read a book called lord of the flies, & maybe you will learn something about the human condition. no matter how first world we get, we are still animals, only an earthquake away from anarchy. so when guns are banned, & california endures the big one, the people without guns might have a problem if the cops cant help out.

thats why liberals are ultimately wrong on gun bans. we will always be animals.

:2 cents:

dyna mo 06-17-2016 02:01 PM

there will be plenty of assault rifles to go around when the big one hits. a little ban on them to curb mass shootings won't make them disappear.


and speaking of the big one, the big isis attack hasn't happened yet. at the very least, they'll go out with a bang, when the end is in sight for them, and it will be, they'll do some big damage to US. but the isis inspired loan wolf attacks here, and remember, they called for them specifically just a few months ago- loan wolf attacks within the US, will continue and get worse.

dyna mo 06-17-2016 02:02 PM

a quick google on isis inspired loan wolf attacks:

ISIS promoting lone wolf attacks, scheming to infiltrate West, John Brennan says - Washington Times

dyna mo 06-17-2016 02:09 PM

French cop-killer says he was answering Isil's call for lone wolf attacks during Ramadan

Joshua G 06-17-2016 02:15 PM

nope, not ISIS. if shooters declare their alliegence to bagdahdi without first clearing it with the washington post, then liberals will declare, they are not ISIS.

dyna mo 06-17-2016 02:25 PM

He was probably also a conflicted closet Jerry Lewis fan. That would explain it all away better.

Called it!

Joshua G 06-17-2016 02:41 PM

how long before the liberal media releases a full blown, post orlando poll??? gonna be a while, they desperately dont want to report hilary lost her entire fake 12 point lead in a weekend!

:upsidedow

Joshua G 06-17-2016 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20970949)
He was probably also a conflicted closet Jerry Lewis fan. That would explain it all away better.

Called it!

i dont know man. the lib tards & the GOP tards are so far apart, I dont think another 911 will unite anymore.

we seem to be in the midst of a civil cold-war, with an outside entity trying to kill us all, & us arguing whether to take it serious.

my textbook in the 80s told me we were the good guys. how can we be good when we let evil run amok?

:helpme

Barry-xlovecam 06-17-2016 02:49 PM

I don't think it is possible to commit a terrorist act and be considered a rational person. That does not mean legally insane. Irrational people are responsible for their actions. Terrorists that are mass murders get a summary death penalty in the USA -- but the terrorist doesn't give a shit -- he is prepared to die.

Consequently, there is no deterrent punishment. Terrorists always win -- even when you cap their ass they win.

Soldiers may think they are heroes when they cap a terrorist but in reality they are just creating more martyrs for the terrorists' cause.

Solution -- give the terrorists their own country(s) -- get them all in one place -- then nuke it(them).

Joshua G 06-17-2016 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20970985)
Solution -- give the terrorists their own country(s) -- get them all in one place -- then nuke it(them).

bro...you work so hard to make logical, well thought out positions. then you come out with...nukes?

i think there will be some collateral damage?

no. you have a point. you cannot "win" a war on crime, poverty, or terrorism. what you do, instead, is you maintain vigilance, keep them on the run. just like innovation prospers in peace, so do terror networks left alone to grow.

thats why we will always be at war with islamism, until we get serious enough about it to invade saudi arabia, which is going to happen within the next decade at this rate. cause ISIS is not far away from taking over the house of saud...

USA sitting around while ISIS puts another thousand girls into sex slavery, kills enemies with nitric acid? Obama says this is OK as long as it happens in syria. & its OK in the USA too as long as its one lone wolf killer at a time. i disagree. time to go back to war with these people.

like i say, at what point does obama care to protect the good people? 2000 dead people? 3000 like 911? what will get him off his lazy arrogant ass? if he doesnt see the need to use proper force now, he may as well shut down the pentagon. cost a lot of money for troops to sit around watching the enemy kill us.

:helpme

Bladewire 06-17-2016 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20970985)
I don't think it is possible to commit a terrorist act and be considered a rational person. That does not mean legally insane. Irrational people are responsible for their actions. Terrorists that are mass murders get a summary death penalty in the USA -- but the terrorist doesn't give a shit -- he is prepared to die.

Consequently, there is no deterrent punishment. Terrorists always win -- even when you cap their ass they win.

Soldiers may think they are heroes when they cap a terrorist but in reality they are just creating more martyrs for the terrorists' cause.

Solution -- give the terrorists their own country(s) -- get them all in one place -- then nuke it(them).

The terrorists only win when the media covers an incident for a week, which they currently ALWAYS do. If the media wasn't so greedy and just coveted an incident once, for one day, and not as breaking news, it would take the "terror" away from the "terrorists".

The government wants people afraid as it keeps the occupation in the middle east justified.

Joshua G 06-17-2016 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20971006)
The terrorists only win when the media covers an incident for a week, which they currently ALWAYS do. If the media wasn't so greedy and just coveted an incident once, for one day, and not as breaking news, it would take the "terror" away from the "terrorists".

The government wants people afraid as it keeps the occupation in the middle east justified.

yep. had the media just covered the september 11 attack for just 1 day, bush wouldnt have been frightened into the mistake of needless iraq war.

wow. :1orglaugh

crockett 06-17-2016 03:55 PM

Everyone should just ignore Joshua G.. he is gonna be the next shooter, looking at how nuts he is.

Barry-xlovecam 06-17-2016 07:15 PM

Tactical nuclear and neutron weapons have as small as a 3 sq mi (4.8 sq km) kill zone -- governments and their militaries do not like to openly discuss this. Walk tall, carrying a big stick. There is no negotiation with these terrorists. They want it all and are willing to die to get it. I didn't make the rule -- they did.

Though It Seems Crazy Now, the Neutron Bomb Was Intended to Be Humane
We have a shitload of these so do the Russians.

The best way to pound in a nail is with a hammer. We should have hammered Afghanistan after 9/11 in retrospect. The Russians would not have cared -- just said "we told you so."

I am not soft on terrorism -- But I am damn hard on blowhard politicians with nothing but rhetoric. Muslims are not terrorists by birthright; terrorists are terrorists. There is a difference. How many IRA were Muslims -0- How many JDL were Muslims -0- the list goes on. People are idiots -- they don't even know who the enemy is.

Bladewire 06-17-2016 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20971405)
Tactical nuclear and neutron weapons have as small as a 3 sq mi (4.8 sq km) kill zone -- governments and their militaries do not like to openly discuss this. Walk tall, carrying a big stick. There is no negotiation with these terrorists. They want it all and are willing to die to get it. I didn't make the rule -- they did.

Though It Seems Crazy Now, the Neutron Bomb Was Intended to Be Humane
We have a shitload of these so do the Russians.

The best way to pound in a nail is with a hammer. We should have hammered Afghanistan after 9/11 in retrospect. The Russians would not have cared -- just said "we told you so."

I am not soft on terrorism -- But I am damn hard on blowhard politicians with nothing but rhetoric. Muslims are not terrorists by birthright; terrorists are terrorists. There is a difference. How many IRA were Muslims -0- How many JDL were Muslims -0- the list goes on. People are idiots -- they don't even know who the enemy is.

That article was long as fuck and a heavy read for a Friday night. I need to learn more about the radiation effects of that bomb but it looks like a promising alternative. I hope Hillary is more hawkish than people think, a lot more, a lot lot more.

Horatio Caine 06-17-2016 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20971057)
Everyone should just ignore Joshua G.. he is gonna be the next shooter, looking at how nuts he is.

Meh, come November he will be posting under different nick but will be easy to spot. :2 cents:

Paul Markham 06-17-2016 10:48 PM

Trump is the underdog because he's made sure he will be. The last thing he needs is to win.

Joshua G 06-18-2016 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20971468)
I hope Hillary is more hawkish than people think, a lot more, a lot lot more.

looks like you forgot how clinton already has a record on war: libya. guess you didnt read she over-rided the pentagon to take out quaddafi, with no ground troops, how did that turn out? :1orglaugh

you also forget the original enabler of al qaeda, the group that started mass international attacks, the democrat president that did nothing, was hilarys wife...

:1orglaugh

if you vote hilary, you are mocking every american killed by jihadis.

Barry-xlovecam 06-18-2016 07:16 AM

Joshua, If you swim in a river of piranhas and get eaten -- whose fault is it? We sent US servicemen into the ME river of piranhas (Iraq and Afghanistan) and some got eaten alive -- whose fault is it?

Who sent them? HR Bush and GW Bush and all the politicians that agreed to do it.

WTF do you expect?

====

As for the Tangerine man. There is a developing intra-party war within the Republican party.

Exclusive: Armitage to back Clinton over Trump - POLITICO

Some of the neocons are defecting already -- this may get interesting yet.
The opera ain't over 'til the Fat Lady sings :2 cents:

Joshua G 06-18-2016 07:28 AM

Barry.
Our leaders need to grow more balls. The US had no chance to make Iraq a better country. Syria,Iran, everyone undermined us efforts.

But it's inevitable that a massive western occupation will be needed to root out jihad. The locals are weak, the rich oil kiddies are spoiled. It will need NATO.

Or else, the only other option is building walls &banning Muslims. Libs need to understand, if you oppose walls, then u have to beat the cancer at the source.

Libs won't defeat jihad, & won't build walls. Thats the obama dividend, endless murders of innocents. & That's why Trump will win, no matter how much the media distorts reality.

:2 cents:

crockett 06-18-2016 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20972002)
Barry.
Our leaders need to grow more balls. The US had no chance to make Iraq a better country. Syria,Iran, everyone undermined us efforts.

But it's inevitable that a massive western occupation will be needed to root out jihad. The locals are weak, the rich oil kiddies are spoiled. It will need NATO.

Or else, the only other option is building walls &banning Muslims. Libs need to understand, if you oppose walls, then u have to beat the cancer at the source.

Libs won't defeat jihad, & won't build walls. Thats the obama dividend, endless murders of innocents. & That's why Trump will win, no matter how much the media distorts reality.

:2 cents:

Of course you won't be on the volunteer list to go fight in Iraq...

Barry-xlovecam 06-18-2016 07:47 AM

OK then pick up your gun and go -- volunteer!

And if you come back in a box? WTF did you die for? Will the Iraqis and Syrians acknowledge your heroism -- fuck no. That is WW2 thinking. Do the Vietnamese build shrines to all the US servicemen that died in the Vietnam War? Fuck no -- many spit on the US and allied deads' graves to this day. Don't feed me that horseshit.

If the world was smart we would embargo weapons to the whole ME. They will run out of bullets and stop killing (so fast). Let them fight with what they can produce on their own.

Trump can hire Mexicans and Chinamen on the cheap and build a fucking wall around ISIS. :2 cents: That is if you have the balls to do it -- given a chance -- ISIS would evaporate us. Harry S. Truman's dilemma in a modern-day context.


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