Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20984698)

MODS can i change the thread title please ? :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20983705)

Rigged 8char

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20984746)

The SNP don't know what they want. So they wanted independence for Scotland 2 years ago, but to still be run by the EU ?? Doesn't make sense.

Scotland voted the stay part of the UK. Then voted to stay part of the EU. Now many are complaining that it was the English vote that has taken us out of the EU. No shit sherlock. That's why we had the independence vote 2 years ago to control our own destiny. We never rook it. So don't complain now...

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20983687)

Looks like "Remain" has it even this early.

Let's all bend over for the EU for the rest of our days. Good times!


I'm not even gonna sit up and watch the results come in. I'll sleep and wake up in the morning and say "oh yey we are still in the EU. Just great"


:(

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20984314)

So, honestly, it's a racist thing right? No judgement, it's about controlling brownie immigration yeah?

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20984848)

you couldn't have been more wrong. & what a shame.

Britain's fucked for so many things

Markets live: UK now poorer than France as pound hits 30-year low and FTSE 100 drops 5pc following British vote to leave EU

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20984059)

That's:
- not even all true. Laws are set up by European Parliament...

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 20984125)

The trouble with that is, you can't leave emotions out of the argument because we are not machines, we are not slaves, we are human beings and we have emotions and we act on them. Always have done, always will. We are social creatures and need a sense of belonging to something, and I think that the nation state is about the right system to feel a belonging to, not a federalist superstate.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20984347)

It's not about feeling British, Dutch or European. It's about your ability to vote for people who only represent Holland and aren't dominated by others who don't care about Holland. Because they're voted in to get the best deal for their people.

All Europe needed was a Trade Deal, what it's on its way to is a United States of Europe. On the present evidence as you say. That will be a huge failure. A dictatorship will make it worse.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20984374)

It is about British Nationalism. War in Europe has been about nationalism for centuries.

As long as *you* civilized countries don't start nationalistic wars again -- have fun!

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20984677)

Nexit FTW! :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20985043)

Quess what.... The Dutch are even bigger pussies then the British.... It's like the Dutch almost invented pussyfication... You know that... you know that the Dutch would not vote Nexit...

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20985070)

Like they didn't vote NO for the EU Ukraine deal?


O wait...

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20984344)

Here's the best thing about being american. You euros drool about Trump and Hillary. You post here day and night. Fucking Russians, Serbians, Albanian, Czechs and every other shit stain talk about what we should do, how we should do...

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20984374)

It is about British Nationalism. War in Europe has been about nationalism for centuries.

As long as *you* civilized countries don't start nationalistic wars again -- have fun!

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20984464)

So on scale of onetwothreefourfive should we give a fuck? If so, how much? In metric system "we don't give a fuck" is?

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20984893)

this well illustrates the liberals in the media cannot swing free elections.

congrats to people that voted for freedom from liberals!

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20985148)

Posting here about Trump and Hillary? As far as I remember, I've never posted anything about those morons, because I don't care. You can elect even an amoeba and it will change absolutely nothing in your country and personally to me a fortiori :2 cents:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20985070)

Like they didn't vote NO for the EU Ukraine deal?


O wait...

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20984059)

That's:
- a nationalistic emotional non-argument. Stop feeling British... start feeling European.:)

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 20984425)

Completely the opposite. Because we get so many people coming in from the EU, we can't let in as many from India, China, Africa, as we want.

Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 20984722)

"Britain = Pussies, Well I thought they were but I jumped the gun and got it wrong"

Never mind Scott, the next Independance referendum will have the Scots back in the EU quicker than it will take the UK to actually leave it :) :thumbsup

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20985211)

It must be a sarcasm, but I do not find an angle :)
I mean who would want African immigrants instead of European immigrants? :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20985211)

It must be a sarcasm, but I do not find an angle :)
I mean who would want African immigrants instead of European immigrants? :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 20984596)

Well I'm really curious how this will play out. And I'm very curious to see the actual real consequences.

No matter what the critics say, I have to say I'm personally most glad to be an EU citizen. As much as it's described as bureaucratic, and it definitely is, so is just about every political structure. And no I don't have trust in the local government to do "better" - they won't. Their track record for the past 25 years speaks volumes.

In fact I'm terrified that they would operate under their own rule because that would mean selling the country for pennies to whoever comes and strong arms them (or bribes them) next.

In a way, EU has been the only institution that was able to get anything done for actual local people, such as when they ended the endless butt fucking of local customers from the mobile operator cartel charging I guess the second highest prices in the world for ages.

But yes this is of course from the POV of a country that by most means benefits by being a part of EU (and it's not economical immigration), there's increased trade, increased infrastructure investments etc. I also personally feel much more as an European than as a national, travel frequently, do business internationally, and want to keep it that way.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20985253)

An African billionaire or a Bulgarian beggar.

It's not about race. It's about qualifications.

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 20985247)

We don't. We want immigrants with the skills we need more of wherever they come from, not unskilled labour from the EU just because they live in the EU.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20985256)

Well, that escalated quickly

Brexit SPREADS across Europe: Italy, France, Holland and Denmark ALL call for referendums

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...dum-682339.jpg

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20985103)

oh that was very sturdily :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20985268)

I hear that real British people do not want to do those jobs that unskilled people from other countries do.

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20985280)

Thats why we have Mexicans. And I thought you were hard ass Trump thumper when it comes to unskilled worker immigration.

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20985277)

Actually, yes. It was a huge No. Now after Brexit even more people will wake up.

And you do realize we as a people have a history of being Europskeptic? Remember the 2005 referendum against EU law?

That the leaders completely ignore every referendum is another story. It painfully exposes the dictatorship we live in.

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20985193)

:helpme:error:Oh crap

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20985343)

Why would that be an error? If you are someone that needs a nationality to gain an identity... This could help: simply replace the one for the other...

Then a project with the potention that Europe had wouldn't have to suffer from infantile
hoards of sheep.

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20985307)

Lets make it clear - Trump is against ILLEGAL ( = criminals breaking US laws) immigration. Like any sane person would be. If you (like Hitlery) are for illegal immigration, you are a traitor (because by definition you welcome illegal invader who is breaking your country's laws).

As for me - I am anti globalist, I like when people live in their own countries, dislike all migrants, especially the economical types. But that is MY position, not Trump's who is FOR immigration, except ILLEGAL ( = crime) immigration.

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20985358)

I did not say that you need nationality to get identity.
I said that being British, Dutch or whatever trumps being European by a tremendously huge margin.
I understand that you are one of those globalist no pride in your nationality type, that is why it is an error.