A true to the cause right wing reactionary reply. I hear Boris Johnson has some jobs available in the UK Foreign Ministry -- you should apply.

this!


& may I say, good for the Turkish citizens working together to overpower coup military. I know I would be scared if my home was invaded. Amazing team work from normal human beings :2 cents:

perfect cliff notes :thumbsup

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Hopefully someone will assassinate the psychopath

damn i better call my friend over there.

Not a fan of Erdogan. But a lot of people support him.
Do they know already who lead the coup? Was it ISIS, or a better new president?
We have seen in Irak that it is better in some regions to have a dictator.
So many different groups that else civil war will break out or etnic cleaning.

But i think the EU counts too much on Turkey with the refugees and te visa free travel they promised him. And he even try to get influence on the Turkish people living in other countries. I think most people in the EU are against Turkey joining the EU. But the EU politicians don't listen to that.

I don't care if Erdogan is in charge, as long he is no thread to EU or other countries.
Their president, their vote, their problem.
But the postion he has. don't like that. He now stops the refugees for entering Europe.
In exchange for a lot of money and visa free travel. I rather see EU built a new wall.
Don't depend or make bad deals with Erdogan. I don't trust it.

Now they will lick Erdogans ass. If the coup would have succeeded, the other countries would lick the ass of that new leaders.
Is the asslicking already begun now the coup failed?

So the coup was trying to overthrow the government to get rid of the muslims and the stupid people of turkey thought best to stop the coup to allow more muslims?

... sounds like hillary clinton thinking

Turkey is mostly muslim. They take in a lot of refugees. The EU has the idea that they can use dictators in Turkey to stop refugees come into Europe.

I think the people that pledged the coup just want to get rid of a dictator who makes more and more laws to gain in power and arrest people he don't like them or when they have another opinion like journalist. They wanted a democracy. But we don't know who where the leaders of the coup and if it would be better, I am saying, the EU mustn't do business with adictator, cause it doesn't solve the problems anyway.

Now the refugees land on Sicilie, but the media keeps that quiet. Cause it shows the deal with Turkey isn't a solution, it just moves the refugee routes to other countries. PS, most are not refugees from Syria, but other countries. And most are not refugees that want to get away from the war, but are econmic refugees.

If there are real refugees, you don't want them get killed and help them. But you can see the refugee problem divides countries in two, people who want them, and people who don't want them. Like Trump and Hillary. Than i choose stop letting them in cause most will never work, get wellfare from the government and spilts the country. I would stop them cause i don't want the country divided that way. Also there is a big difference in culture, better let them go to Muslim countries.

Mostly Muslim because of dictator allowing it.

I didn't even have to read the articles to know that is what was going on.

Turkey is a muslim country, you better start reading, your remark doesn't make sense.

Hmm... never thought of Turkey as Muslim before. I suppose I missed the memo.

And my statement stands on it's own words... the people are sick of muslim ISIS flooding Turkey from Syria and the Prime Minister welcoming it with open arms and created a coup last night... I actually don't think I need to read anything.

Actually you should do some reading. Since 1923 when Attaturk overthrew the last Sultan. Turkey have become a secular nation republic and NOT a muslim country as it was under the Sultan. Every army coup since then ( and there were about 6 or 7 of them) took place because some assehole wanted to go back to an islamic rule. Turkey has judicial sytem based on Swiss and Italian one, has guaranteed equality of sexes, forbids wearing islamic garb in public offices and has freedom of worship... Etc. Etc... It is less islamic then Canada !

That is until yesterday when Erdogan managed to deafat the military... Now back to medieval times..:2 cents: I guess Turks were not as lucky as the Egyptians.

Turkey is a secular country by law that is 98% Muslim now.
Turkey has no "state religion" since 1928 -- Atatürk

If 98,4% of a population is Muslim, i see it as a muslim country.
Still don't know what the aim was of the people that lead the coup.
thousands of Turkeys protested in Holland in favour of Erdogan, shouting Alah Akbar.

Any questions?

I tell him what? Your usual story about criping since 9, ak-47 in da trunk, long azz tyme?
I bet you can't find Turkey on the map. :2 cents:

You may see it that way, but the facts are different, it is a secular country and no more then USA is a christian country even if majority of its population are Christians.

At this point NOBODY yet knows who was behind the coup. If it were islamist elements within the military or as historically the secular army protected the Atatturk's constiturion. Only time will tell.

btw shouting Allahu akbar does not sound too much secular to me.

And I know everyone hates fox news... but worth the read.

Turkey's last hope dies | Fox News

You must be joking. When people say "it is a muslim country" 99% of the time they mean that it is absolute majority (like at least 90-95% or whatever) muslim population country and not that it has muslim as official state religion or stuff like that.
70% of US population is Christian, so not too accurate comparison, but yeah, it would not be very much out of the line to say that US is a Christian country.

and more world problems

Democracy is three bears and a deer voting on who is for dinner.
75% bear community -- start the fire ...

Most of these neo-conservitards only cite their rights when convenient to their argument.

I am not right wing or left wing. I am a realist.

BOOM

Last 2 days of news .... this is just shocking

The past 15 years have sucked.

turkey used to be a wonderful country it is sad to see erdogan having so much support...

Started to change my thinking on this now, in recent weeks Erdogan had started to make buddies with Putin and Assad, NATO control the armies of NATO countries, I think this was the US/UK/Israel/Bankers

One thing, no one has mentioned. It's pretty amazing anyone was able to organize that much support in the military with out being noticed.

Most likely all the grunts were out of the loop and were ordered to do it, not understanding what was happening. I'm betting they were lied to.

funny how islamic madrassas spawn children that hate the world around them, feel the victim to a fake villain (the west). the same exact way liberal educations in US spawn children that hate the world around them, feel the victim to a fake villain (cops, repubs).

basically wahhabism & liberalism have that in common - inciting people to murder innocents based on hyped up racism.

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It apparently didn't involve enough of the upper echelon to be successful. Better luck next time Turkey.

I suggest you google turkey coup Islamic terrorist if you don't want to click my link above. Then google how stupid is president obama...

Post back results please.

And to simplify my above google search recommendation, the coup was trying to overthrow the Islamic State that was being forced on the country by the current president. So their is a group of military that don't want islamism in their country and they are now being systematically executed and president obama is giving 2 thumbs up... great.

I've never been to Turkey. so.. uh.. Post proof or ban, OP

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Forced to watch sultan's photo:

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Probably some guys on the street didn't knew what is going on,they were just executing orders to roll out and change positions.

i hate Fox, but this one is on target...:thumbsup

Go back to a primary school and learn something... Country is either secular or religious... Not in between like " a little bit preganant"...:error

I saw one picture of a parked tank and military shirts with weapons just laying on the ground. Looked to the like the soldiers just wanted to blend into the crowd and ran away. Or, they were arrested and dropped what they were wearing and their weapons?

Anyway, the military got their asses handed to them.

Not making buddies at all , just scared shitless that Putin and Assad ( budies and our firends, because " enemy of my enemy is my friend") will gang up on him and his military will join them and kick his "islamic democratic ass", so you kiss up and divide.. So he thinks but Vladimir and Bashir are not that stupid...:thumbsup

Idiot, secular means that religion is not official part of the state, that state does not follow religious laws.
Religious means religious.

Example: X country, 99% of them are religious people, muslim. Religion is officially part of the country's law. Not secular. Time goes by, country decided to separate religious laws from the sate. Becomes secular. But same 99% of people remained religious. So it was and still is a religious, 99% muslim country. Separating religion from state did not change it. Becoming secular did not make country's people non religious.

When people say "Italy is a Christian country" do you actually think they mean that Italy is not secular and that they have Christian laws as a laws of state? :helpme:error No, they mean that majority of people are Christians.