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AdultKing 07-22-2016 11:15 PM

Paul, serious question.

With all this knowledge, experience and insight why aren't you a millionaire living in Mansion or on a tropical paradise ? Why don't you have a car collection ?

Why aren't you a high flyer ?

Surely with all the answers and insight you have you should be living it up in the lap of luxury ?

Struggle4Bucks 07-23-2016 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21053647)
The security cert expired in Ocotber 2016 and is throwing out the Google warning page before going forward :2 cents:

NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID

mmmmkay Marty McFly.... it EXPIRED in oct 2016?

Are you going to write a blog about this issue too... Squirtit?

Maybe you should check your own computer for maleware...

Struggle4Bucks 07-23-2016 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21054022)

S4B how does the Epoch affiliate program work for your sites? :1orglaugh

Are you too old to understand what I wrote here?
Or did you just overlooked it?
Could be that your eyes also starting to become incontinent?:

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 21053236)
Try a free proxy server to check my sites from a different location... it appears that you are blocked:1orglaugh
Interesting... not that i'm interested in your whereabouts... but interesting anyway...

My affiliate program works perfectly fine idiot! My sites are up and running. The fact that you see what you see means you are in a location that is blocked for accessing my sites.... So... bassicaly... what a rapefugee would say in broken english: "I know where your house lives"...:1orglaugh

AdultKing 07-23-2016 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 21054100)
My affiliate program works perfectly fine idiot! My sites are up and running. The fact that you see what you see means you are in a location that is blocked for accessing my sites.... So... bassicaly... what a rapefugee would say in broken english: "I know where your house lives"...:1orglaugh

I don't want to be a pain, but it appears that at least Struggling Babes is misconfigured, I can't load it - errors out after loading the html. Boundmenwanked worked.

I did a scan on both sites, there are issues on both, if you want me to paste you the results come in to Adult Industry Chat and I'll private message you the output.

Struggle4Bucks 07-23-2016 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 21054148)
I don't want to be a pain, but it appears that at least Struggling Babes is misconfigured, I can't load it - errors out after loading the html. Boundmenwanked worked.

I did a scan on both sites, there are issues on both, if you want me to paste you the results come in to Adult Industry Chat and I'll private message you the output.

The sites load perfectly fine for me... That said... the whole thing will be updated to 2016 very soon...

Struggle4Bucks 07-23-2016 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 21054148)
I don't want to be a pain, but it appears that at least Struggling Babes is misconfigured, I can't load it - errors out after loading the html. Boundmenwanked worked.

I did a scan on both sites, there are issues on both, if you want me to paste you the results come in to Adult Industry Chat and I'll private message you the output.

I'm trying to contact you at that chat... Would like to hear what you have to say:thumbsup

Paul Markham 07-23-2016 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 21054043)
Paul, serious question.

With all this knowledge, experience and insight why aren't you a millionaire living in Mansion or on a tropical paradise ? Why don't you have a car collection ?

Why aren't you a high flyer ?

Surely with all the answers and insight you have you should be living it up in the lap of luxury ?

Valid question.

Lack of drive.

I own our home, have enough money in the bank and investments to see my life out and keep Eva n comfort when I go.

What else do I need?

I haven't worked a 40 hour week for as long as I can remember, probably when I had a clothing factory in the early 80s. In porn, 30 hours a week was a tough gig. in the UK I worked 1-3 days a week. Here n Czech with a studio and office of programmers it was 40 tops

Easy come, easy life if you don't buy a mansion or live on a tropical paradise or have a car collection.

The best thing is I never wanted all that, so never was disappointed or frustrated about not getting it. I feel the disappointment in many people's posts here. They do yearn for those things.

Nice to see you acknowledge my knowledge and insight. Thanks. :thumbsup

Paul Markham 07-23-2016 02:44 AM

Quote:

My affiliate program works perfectly fine idiot! My sites are up and running. The fact that you see what you see means you are in a location that is blocked for accessing my sites.... So... bassicaly... what a rapefugee would say in broken english: "I know where your house lives"...:1orglaugh
Tell us which countries you block and I will use a free VPN from an unblocked country to see what great porn you have..

dig420 07-23-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21054202)
Valid question.

Lack of drive.

I own our home, have enough money in the bank and investments to see my life out and keep Eva n comfort when I go.

What else do I need?

I haven't worked a 40 hour week for as long as I can remember, probably when I had a clothing factory in the early 80s. In porn, 30 hours a week was a tough gig. in the UK I worked 1-3 days a week. Here n Czech with a studio and office of programmers it was 40 tops

Easy come, easy life if you don't buy a mansion or live on a tropical paradise or have a car collection.

The best thing is I never wanted all that, so never was disappointed or frustrated about not getting it. I feel the disappointment in many people's posts here. They do yearn for those things.

Nice to see you acknowledge my knowledge and insight. Thanks. :thumbsup

You have the drive to post advice obsessively (I mean, OCD obsessive) 24/7 but not the drive to try anything you talk about? If you've never done anything, then what exactly makes you think anything you say is going to work?

AdultKing 07-23-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 21054757)
You have the drive to post advice obsessively (I mean, OCD obsessive) 24/7 but not the drive to try anything you talk about? If you've never done anything, then what exactly makes you think anything you say is going to work?

this :2 cents:

Relic 07-23-2016 11:46 AM

50 hast doth thithers

The Porn Nerd 07-23-2016 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 21054757)
You have the drive to post advice obsessively (I mean, OCD obsessive) 24/7 but not the drive to try anything you talk about? If you've never done anything, then what exactly makes you think anything you say is going to work?

The funny thing is, running a simple paysite with vintage content (which is what Paul has) does not take an enormous amount of time. Sure, setting things up takes time like with anything else but once it's up-and-running it's minimal labor.

My point here is if Paul took all the energy he spends typing on GFY he could easily handle running a paysite and then growing it by implementing his ideas to show us how wrong we all are. And if Paul wanted to use outsourced $2 an hour labor to help him then it's even easier to do. But Paul is not the only one; Shap is the same way and he has resources far beyond Paul's (or mine).

Paul Markham 07-23-2016 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 21054757)
You have the drive to post advice obsessively (I mean, OCD obsessive) 24/7 but not the drive to try anything you talk about? If you've never done anything, then what exactly makes you think anything you say is going to work?

I don't post obsessively 24/7. Look at the time of my posts. I do have more time than most of you who have to work to pay bills.

I'm retired and registered as an invalid, people wh have met me recently will tell you I'm not as agile as I should be.

As you joined in 2001 you will remember all the people who told me I was wrong whn I pointed out they were prioritising the killing of sales. They said it was BS even though 99% of the surfers on their site didn't buy. How they knew 99% of consumers didn't buy porn after clicking and why they didn't buy is the strange part.

Now we have a ratio of less than 99.99% of porn consumers buying. It's my turn.

Does that answer your question of why I post and do you have anything positive to add?

Paul Markham 07-23-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 21054967)
The funny thing is, running a simple paysite with vintage content (which is what Paul has) does not take an enormous amount of time. Sure, setting things up takes time like with anything else but once it's up-and-running it's minimal labor.

My point here is if Paul took all the energy he spends typing on GFY he could easily handle running a paysite and then growing it by implementing his ideas to show us how wrong we all are. And if Paul wanted to use outsourced $2 an hour labor to help him then it's even easier to do. But Paul is not the only one; Shap is the same way and he has resources far beyond Paul's (or mine).

If you think it's so easy and profitable, I assume you don't think it will lose money. Buy my content and make money. You too could spend less time here and more time making money doing what you suggest I should.

The level of trolling on GFY is dropping. :1orglaugh

10.00 pm and I'm off to bed. Eva dragged me out to the city for a walk and it has shattered me. See you guys in the mo

Barry-xlovecam 07-23-2016 01:54 PM

90%+ that walk into a supermarket buy
75%+ that walk into a Walmart or Tesco buy
90%+ of visitors to Netflix are paying customers
50% +(?) of tube visitors are ad viewers.

No one rides for free really.

People don't buy what they can get for free that doesn't mean that some content is not free:2 cents:

Content is king -- always has been ... but if it is stolen and given away free it becomes commoditized and spirals down to the lowest common denominator -- free. Don't produce any new porn for 10 years and tubes will become archives of old content and die.

Last man standing always wins :2 cents:

dig420 07-23-2016 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21055048)
I don't post obsessively 24/7. Look at the time of my posts. I do have more time than most of you who have to work to pay bills.

I'm retired and registered as an invalid, people wh have met me recently will tell you I'm not as agile as I should be.

As you joined in 2001 you will remember all the people who told me I was wrong whn I pointed out they were prioritising the killing of sales. They said it was BS even though 99% of the surfers on their site didn't buy. How they knew 99% of consumers didn't buy porn after clicking and why they didn't buy is the strange part.

Now we have a ratio of less than 99.99% of porn consumers buying. It's my turn.

Does that answer your question of why I post and do you have anything positive to add?

I don't remember anyone telling you were wrong, or telling you anything at all. It's also not as if you're the only one who noticed tube sites when they came out. As a has-been, please believe me that it's annoying as hell to see a never-was posting like the voice of God about what we all did wrong when you don't actually know the first thing about it. You've always just been a guy with a ton of opinions, which you pretend are facts, who's never really done anything besides 2nd rate content which, imo, you only do so you can get your hands on the bitches.

Nothing wrong with that. Just quit pretending you're some kind of expert. There are people who've forgotten more than you'll ever know about this business that still got rolled over by tube sites. You're nobody's guru. Show me your dating sites. Show me your cam sites. Show me something besides very amateurish paysites and pics of you rubbing yourself all over the women you hire to allow you to do that. Just stay in your lane man... I hardly ever come here anymore but everytime I do I see you pontificating like you're fucking Gandalf. You're not. You're more like one of the hobbits who stayed home lol

dig420 07-23-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 21054967)
The funny thing is, running a simple paysite with vintage content (which is what Paul has) does not take an enormous amount of time. Sure, setting things up takes time like with anything else but once it's up-and-running it's minimal labor.

My point here is if Paul took all the energy he spends typing on GFY he could easily handle running a paysite and then growing it by implementing his ideas to show us how wrong we all are. And if Paul wanted to use outsourced $2 an hour labor to help him then it's even easier to do. But Paul is not the only one; Shap is the same way and he has resources far beyond Paul's (or mine).

I don't know what Shap's deal is. I see him always making threads about partnering up with someone but I never see him do it.

The Porn Nerd 07-23-2016 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 21055270)
I don't know what Shap's deal is. I see him always making threads about partnering up with someone but I never see him do it.

Exactly. :)

(And Paul I spend about fifteen mins a day on GFY. LOL)

mechanicvirus 07-23-2016 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21055132)
90%+ that walk into a supermarket buy
75%+ that walk into a Walmart or Tesco buy
90%+ of visitors to Netflix are paying customers
50% +(?) of tube visitors are ad viewers.

No one rides for free really.

People don't buy what they can get for free that doesn't mean that some content is not free:2 cents:

Content is king -- always has been ... but if it is stolen and given away free it becomes commoditized and spirals down to the lowest common denominator -- free. Don't produce any new porn for 10 years and tubes will become archives of old content and die.

Last man standing always wins :2 cents:

Around 2010/2011 I thought this would be the natural progression of tubes and content but every time I read a new producer coming into the industry, a lot of times they will start off with "honestly, i do this as a hobby first, career second" so I have a feeling the producer to tube content pipeline isn't going anywhere soon.

INever 07-23-2016 05:06 PM

OK, so let's say I find some sharp girls who are willing to pose and also do some cam.
What's to stop them from going direct? What's to keep them around? Besides my charm, nothing except getting the same % they get at myfreecams. So there go my margins.

AdultKing 07-23-2016 05:14 PM

I thought the walls of text were going to be a thing of the past if Paul was allowed back on this forum. :2 cents:

INever 07-23-2016 05:26 PM

Just went on myfreecams for the first time in a long time. All those girls have to perform naked now 24/7. (Been like that for years already, actually).

Agree with PM. It's just a race to the bottom in this business. Hard to stomach but even the biggest are going to fold up shop within a generation.

dig420 07-23-2016 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by INever (Post 21055417)
OK, so let's say I find some sharp girls who are willing to pose and also do some cam.
What's to stop them from going direct? What's to keep them around? Besides my charm, nothing except getting the same % they get at myfreecams. So there go my margins.

Your traffic. Duh.

dig420 07-23-2016 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus (Post 21055396)
Around 2010/2011 I thought this would be the natural progression of tubes and content but every time I read a new producer coming into the industry, a lot of times they will start off with "honestly, i do this as a hobby first, career second" so I have a feeling the producer to tube content pipeline isn't going anywhere soon.

The hollywood industry is putting a lot of pressure on Congress to do something about putlocker etc, and they have a lot ofpolitical muscle. If anything is ever going to happen to change things, that's where it's going to start, because whatever laws they put in place to protect copyright for mainstream cinema will also apply to adult content. Of course, that doesn't address overseas companies, hosts etc, but I'm betting they'll eventually figure out a way to put a cap on it. Kill the tubes and paysites will be viable again. It will never be like it was, but it will be better.

AdultKing 07-23-2016 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 21055483)
Kill the tubes and paysites will be viable again. It will never be like it was, but it will be better.

Tubes aren't going anywhere soon. Youtube is the base model of tube sites and Youtube just grows every year. Pornhub and XVideos are two of the most visited sites on the net. That happened due to consumer demand.

File Lockers and Torrents are the bigger threat than tubes because they carry content that caters to the porn connoisseur. People typically visit tube sites for an array of content. People turn to file lockers and torrents to complete their collections of niche porn, grab siterips and so forth.

The porn connoisseur will pay to access their thing if it's not downloadable for free and a tube site won't satisfy them.

dig420 07-23-2016 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 21055498)
Tubes aren't going anywhere soon. Youtube is the base model of tube sites and Youtube just grows every year. Pornhub and XVideos are two of the most visited sites on the net. That happened due to consumer demand.

File Lockers and Torrents are the bigger threat than tubes because they carry content that caters to the porn connoisseur. People typically visit tube sites for an array of content. People turn to file lockers and torrents to complete their collections of niche porn, grab siterips and so forth.

The porn connoisseur will pay to access their thing if it's not downloadable for free and a tube site won't satisfy them.

File lockers and torrents are NOTHING. Nothing at all compared to tubes, a fucking gnat on an elephants knee. Usenet has been around since BEFORE day one and everybody did just fine. There was ZERO drop in business until tubes came out, and there is no credible argument otherwise. I was here. I know. Tubes are the problem, they have always been the problem. Period. The fact that you even try to make that argument while taking money from tubes is what destroyed your credibility to begin with. It's not a rational argument to even attempt to make.

Consumer demand has nothing to do with it. People want shit they can't have, there are millions of examples of that. There's a consumer demand for cocaine and free pussy. So what? You can apply that argument to anything, including torrents and file lockers. Not to mention most file lockers charge for access and your average porn consumer wouldn't recognize a torrent if i bit them in the face. The ones that do know how to torrent aren't our target audience, those are the same guys who were on usenet and maintaining lists of FTP repositories before torrents were a gleam in Bram Cohen's eye.

dig420 07-23-2016 06:16 PM

why don't you go type in 'barbi sinclair' into google or bing. Or any other search engine. Check out the results. Then come back and tell me file lockers are my problem.

AdultKing 07-23-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 21055525)
why don't you go type in 'barbi sinclair' into google or bing. Or any other search engine. Check out the results. Then come back and tell me file lockers are my problem.

Number one result is

Barbi Sinclair - The Official Website of Barbi Sinclair
Barbi Sinclair - The Official Website of Barbi Sinclair
Barbi Sinclair. I love to dance, and I love after hours parties! But what I really love is the pick-up of a young stud with a bbc to make my pussy feel really good!

don't see the problem there.

The other 9 results are tubes and only 3 are the real ones, the rest are those stupid affiliate run embed tubes (with no value) that Google still can't manage to filter from the SERPS.

dig420 07-23-2016 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 21055582)
Number one result is

Barbi Sinclair - The Official Website of Barbi Sinclair
Barbi Sinclair - The Official Website of Barbi Sinclair
Barbi Sinclair. I love to dance, and I love after hours parties! But what I really love is the pick-up of a young stud with a bbc to make my pussy feel really good!

don't see the problem there.

The other 9 results are tubes and only 3 are the real ones, the rest are those stupid affiliate run embed tubes (with no value) that Google still can't manage to filter from the SERPS.

Actually 24 of the first 30 results are tubes promising absolutely free video and plenty of it, 2 are domain name squatters, 1 is an entry in a porn star directory, 1 is a facebook page with tube links and 1 is a torrent site. 9 out of 10 links on the index page are tubes giving away what I'm trying to sell. The real site has one result, which thankfully is the top spot. So I guess I don't have to worry about the other 29 links on the first three pages after all! Lucky me. :thumbsup After that we have another 20 or so tube results and then a torrent coming in at 53. I'm guessing that out of 499,000 results for those keywords, at least a good 3% are torrents, 95% are tubes and about 2% are results beneficial to me. You can refuse to acknowledge that the sky is blue all you want. Everybody can still go outside and look up.

Now you can go ahead and ask me the relevant question. Which would I rather erase from google: the 95% of bad results or the 3%?

And you don't see a problem? How hard, exactly, are you looking?

AdultKing 07-23-2016 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 21055597)
And you don't see a problem? How hard, exactly, are you looking?

It's not my problem and that's really all that matters :2 cents:

The real tubes are here, they're going to stay here and they satisfy the inevitable customer demand for porn on tap in the same way as Youtube provides everything else on tap.

I do have a problem with the fake tubes, the embedded video tubes, the stupid hotlinking, embedding, no value to anyone tubes that their owners think is the shizzle and Google let clutter up the SERPS from the good shit. One day Google will really do something about thin content - rather than just talk about it - and you'll be left with the big tubes dominating search because they're data driven and smart.

Your content is on tubes and you don't want it there ? Like I am going to care about that ? I don't care about that. This is an industry that bleats like a lost lamb about piracy but never did a fucking thing about it. Stiff. Pornhub, XVideos, and their ilk will keep making bank while the mostly lethargic content producers do fuck all. Tubes are so established now and rely on the legislation that allows piracy (DMCA) to keep it all legal.

Consumers spoke and smart people listened then made a lot of money catering to consumer wants. That's capitalism and if you got stood on in the process, stiff shit.

Paul Markham can keep on blathering on about the content, like he knows anything, his content was as contrived as a Mormon wedding. He sprouts on about this and that but everyone else but him knows he's an old man, losing his marbles and talking about the good old days, Paul Markham in reality is nothing but a sad pervert who managed to scrape together a living, pretending to be a porn producer just to get pussy.

The bottom line is that the consumers drive what happens in this industry. Not the navel gazing, self important and egotistical cogs in the wheel that do nothing with an ounce of innovation.

If you want to see a combination of innovation and catering to consumer wants then look no further than companies like Fuck You Cash or people like Fabian or JT. These are examples of those who understand what the consumers want and can innovate to give it to them. Most of the rest of the industry are lazy fucks who over estimate their self worth - because the consumers don't care about them at all.

It's technology, innovation and fucking awesome content that will drive this industry forward but it won't be the Paul Markham's of the world doing it. It will be the smart guys who innovate and understand that you can't put the tube genie back in the bottle, you need to exploit the tubes to further an innovative business.

My advice to anyone reading this who wants to make money in porn ? Learn to fucking code.

dig420 07-23-2016 09:18 PM

See how easy that was? Now you're being honest for the first time since you came here.

If you don't give a shit, that's fine. I can respect that. Just don't be a hypocrite. Don't get on your soapbox.

As far as Paul Markham goes, you are correct. He just wanted to fondle some women, he knew he could do it if he paid them to model and that's about the extent of his knowledge.

AdultKing 07-23-2016 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 21055666)
Ok. It's really funny how your attitude towards tubes is soooooo very different from your attitude towards file lockers.

The big tubes buy content and lots of it. File lockers and Torrent Sites don't.

The big tubes mostly comply with the DMCA. Most File Lockers and Torrent Sites don't.

Anyway, it's all water under the bridge. I killed off some really big file lockers while I had the support to do so, now it's not really something I think too much about. As you say, one adapts to the circumstances presented to them.

For the most part though, the future of this industry will be forged by accountants, lawyers and innovators. The content itself has become a commodity. It's innovation that's in short supply.

dig420 07-23-2016 09:51 PM

I can tell you one thing: when tubes came out I just assumed they were so wildly illegal that somebody with deep pockets would take them out, like we did with Acacia. I won't make that assumption again. Next big thing, I'm getting on the bandwagon early.

INever 07-23-2016 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 21055582)
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The other 9 results are tubes and only 3 are the real ones, the rest are those stupid affiliate run embed tubes (with no value) that Google still can't manage to filter from the SERPS.

For whatever reason google does not WANT to filter tube results.

AdultKing 07-23-2016 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 21055705)
Next big thing, I'm getting on the bandwagon early.

That's a smart attitude, always strike while the iron is hot.

AdultKing 07-23-2016 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INever (Post 21055723)
For whatever reason google does not WANT to filter tube results.

Actually in reality Google do filter out the spammy embed tubes rather well, however it's a rolling problem.

If you look at SERP ranking history for spammy tubes you will see that there is very little stability, while Pornhub, XVideos and the other tubes actually hosting videos do retain their rankings.

The issue comes down to one of scale. So many new embedded tube sites are made every day that the Panda algorithm can't keep up. There are thousands of people creating these things and when they get crawled they see a little bump on keywords.

As Panda now processes at crawl speed, there is a delay between the time a spammy tube hits the index and gets ranking on some keywords and when Panda wipes out the ranking again.

Add that to the problem that Penguin hasn't been updated for ages, so these same spammy tube sites build lots of spammy links which hold them up artificially in ranking. If Penguin was finally run again then this would wipe out the sites that have held up ranking positions due to links.

Google plays a never ending game of cat and mouse with the spammy tubes. Eventually Google wins but not before more spammy tubes take the place of those that Google demotes.

The big tube sites have relatively stable rankings because they actually host the content and they also have a great user experience in Google's eyes, bounce rates are low and traffic is huge.

Google just need a way to speed up the process of Panda dealing with thin content sites and roll out Penguin again. The SEO world has been holding it's breath waiting for Penguin to roll out again, but everyone is turning blue in the process because Google keep delaying it for reasons only known to Google.

Paul Markham 07-23-2016 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21055132)
90%+ that walk into a supermarket buy
75%+ that walk into a Walmart or Tesco buy
90%+ of visitors to Netflix are paying customers
50% +(?) of tube visitors are ad viewers.

No one rides for free really.

People don't buy what they can get for free that doesn't mean that some content is not free:2 cents:

Content is king -- always has been ... but if it is stolen and given away free it becomes commoditized and spirals down to the lowest common denominator -- free. Don't produce any new porn for 10 years and tubes will become archives of old content and die.

Last man standing always wins :2 cents:

I agree.

For 100 years (?) the porn industry rode the wave of selling the 20-minute jerk off. Then in 1997 (?) online porn started to make paying for jerking off redundant. 2016 and 50% (?) use ad blockers, of those who see the ads 96% (?) ignore them. Of those that click and 99.9% (?) don't buy. Of those that view a porn scene 99.995% (?) don't buy.

In those 19 years, the product has changed little, it went from images to video, digital SD to HD, 3D 4k flopped and now everyone is pinning their hopes on VR.

And all the solutions offered by affiliates are going to fail as well. America voters know if they want change the people who screwed up, aren't the ones to offer change. Online porn is the same. The only way to gain more sales is to change the product. Not people like S4B, he's in a minor niche which has suffered a lot less from free porn.

(?) As for waiting 10 years to see Tubes run out of content. In 2026 (?) the sites that can afford to produce content, will start giving them to Tubes again. (?)

I want to discuss changing the product. Where are those who are capable of that?

Paul Markham 07-24-2016 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 21055264)
I don't remember anyone telling you were wrong, or telling you anything at all. It's also not as if you're the only one who noticed tube sites when they came out. As a has-been, please believe me that it's annoying as hell to see a never-was posting like the voice of God about what we all did wrong when you don't actually know the first thing about it. You've always just been a guy with a ton of opinions, which you pretend are facts, who's never really done anything besides 2nd rate content which, imo, you only do so you can get your hands on the bitches.

Nothing wrong with that. Just quit pretending you're some kind of expert. There are people who've forgotten more than you'll ever know about this business that still got rolled over by tube sites. You're nobody's guru. Show me your dating sites. Show me your cam sites. Show me something besides very amateurish paysites and pics of you rubbing yourself all over the women you hire to allow you to do that. Just stay in your lane man... I hardly ever come here anymore but everytime I do I see you pontificating like you're fucking Gandalf. You're not. You're more like one of the hobbits who stayed home lol

Offer positive ideas and stop trying to bring down those who do.

You lie about me and the models. I can show you all the front covers with my content in, or all the magazine sets we shot or my bank account. The fact that I got across the finishing line by 35 years of doing nothing but producing porn. Is all the testament you need to know.

As for "Show me" you show me your sites.

dig420 07-24-2016 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21055807)
Offer positive ideas and stop trying to bring down those who do.

You lie about me and the models. I can show you all the front covers with my content in, or all the magazine sets we shot or my bank account. The fact that I got across the finishing line by 35 years of doing nothing but producing porn. Is all the testament you need to know.

As for "Show me" you show me your sites.

lol are you serious right now?

Also, selling photosets to Screw magazine 30 years ago has zero bearing on your webmastering skills, such as they are, in the past or in the present. It's no big secret what you've done in this industry, and everybody who does know something is telling you that your talk way outpaces your achievements and your knowledge. Why don't you listen? Do you have anything going on besides this board? If not, I'll just walk away and let you do you. Because that would be sad.

Paul Markham 07-24-2016 01:02 AM

The future of Tubes relies on ad sales.

When companies lie this can make a profit from ads, Tubes are secure.

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The ED Reverser

These are professional selling and marketing examples. Take note porn industry.

This is the future of your income depends on. Ads directing people to professional sites. Not sites that have changed little for 10 years.

For Brazzers it's free traffic.


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