Content mastered the sector. The more in amount and the better in quality ruled over sales and traffic. The problem was webmasters. They believed, or attempted to convince everyone, selling porn to men was a rough occupation.!!!!

They were pampered, overfed and cossetted. And to some point they multiplied like mice where most were scraping a living to doing OK. Cut all the support system and money, just the strong survive. How many surfers stays steady. Sales for those at and left, skyrocket 25% rev share those left make more. At 10% those left are earning a fortune.

Pay 50%, add all marketing and the support to affiliates. Then what's left for the product and profit = a merchandise that was shit.

Yes - that video made me MONEY Paul. LOL

That is a pure amateur clip (and no, that's not me; I took my dick and my own self-shot POV videos down long ago). Amateurs sell Paul or didn't you know that?

So my network of 80+ paysites runs the gamut from total amateurs (like the vid you posted) all the way to the highest end 4K content (which you could not tell was 4K).

And still you think I do what, 3 joins a day? Paul if HALF my paysites made just one sale a day (and many do many sales daily), how much money would that be?

Nevermind Paul, carry on. LOL

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Where's the abuse?

When it comes to still photography there are some simple rules for good content.

There are 26 fundamental poses. Shoot them while the model is nude, undressing and dressed will give readily double the amount of shots to 52. Making 45 degrees turn will double it . Shooting a couple more will be added by some with half body. The shot going from side to side of his lights that are key add a couple more and will change the back ground. Actually firing a set of 200 distinct poses/pictures is not difficult knowing how.

So firing a set with exactly the same pose over and over again is inexperienced and unforgivable in the conditions of the shot not having a hint.

The poses are not same, the importance of variation is predominant.

That's the technical aspect of good still content.

I lost count of the people who wanted me to sell them a product for 10% of its value. Claiming if they paid more they couldn't afford to "market" it. Which meant pay for anyone who bothered to sign up as an affiliate to give it away for free.

Nice copy of a post I made way back.

Now debate my point of webmasters being over pampered and dominating porn to the detriment of the industry and its income.

Paysites need unique content. its always going to be low recurring when they see content from everywhere else

Yes amateurs sell, do you know why amateur sell and why that scene doesn't sell well? As a content producer, I do.

Show 4k samples. And tell us what are the good points of the porn in the scene.

If your sites make 1 sale a day. You would be making $2,400 a day. And have a quality of content reflecting that level of income. You don't but keep dreaming.

On Sunday at 18:00 CEDT ? LMFAO
Fucking Asshat

But TY for posting the Links

Absolutely. But it has to be good unique content, bad unique content is still crap. The problem is in creating really unique content.

Changing the model, or setting, or clothing and retaining the same sex act. Isn't unique to the consumer, especially when every site does the same, it's just another version of the same scene.

When the need for different versions of the same scene and the income level for most sites, led to site paying 10% of the value of the product. Shooters who could earn 100% of the value. Turned their back on creating porn for others.

How does a low paid, inexperienced content producer create a really unique product when paid badly?

Bringing out the girl's personality makes her unique, even if she's doing the same thing 1,000s of other girls are doing. And they all do the same thing, so going from the bad to the sofa doesn't make it unique. Except on TGPs, which was why "unique" became the thing. Every unseen scene to the consumer is unique.

Yes, we are both here at 18.00 hours.

No problem with the links. Now you have a great opportunity to post more and prove your point about abuse being a problem.

INTERMISSION

You disagreed with the idea content could get saturated in the major niches I recall.

Why the change of mind ?

"There is a seat for every ass."

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That is a Mercedes-Benz Plant BTW.


Have it your way -- fantasy made to order

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We put production in the hands of the workers -- LOTS of THEM!

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Don't squeeze the Peaches (too hard)

You just don't get it.

You see Paul? THIS is why people do not like you. You ASSUME. (Class, what happens when you assume? You make an ASS out of U and ME.)

You ASSUME that scene does not sell well. HOW on Earth would you have ANY idea whatsoever on how well that scene sold or how much money that scene made me over time? How? It's impossible because you cannot. You ASSUME.

Also, I do much more than 1 sale a day Paul. LOL Again, you ASSUME with no real knowledge or information.

You also ASSUME because I do not pay $50,000 a week for updates that I cannot afford to buy superior content (even tho I posted examples of some of my superior content).

But go ahead, keep making an ASS out of U and ME. Me? I don't need to 'keep dreaming' dude, I AM living the dream already. :)

I think Paul is still trying to work out the answer to the question I asked him.

This is a fundamental flaw in your perception of revenue in online adult :2 cents:

Go back and read the post, you will see the reasons it wasn't saturated for the member if the site owner followed simple rules.

And there's a fundemantal flaw in your thinking that putting production in the hands of the workers -- LOTS of THEM increases earnings.

OK you asked for it.

The girl has no appetite for the scene, she looks detached to the whole thing.

The guys dick is small and not getting very hard.

The shooter is clueless about how to point the camera.

The scene lacks emotion. It's dull, boring and not sexy.

Amateur is people doing it for the fun of it, with enjoyment, pleasure, a couple who are sharing something. I don't assume that's crap. As a content producer with 5 decades of experience, I know it's crap. I know what consumers want from Amateur Content and that's not it. They don't imagine meeting her and getting her to give them a hand and blow job like that and the don't want to perform like that guy is.

You don't know otherwise you wouldn't be putting it up. And most certainly not trying to fool people it makes money.

Do you ever look at the time you post and think of the time in Europe? I would expect better from a webmaster.

The fundamental flaw is taking it out of your pocket.

We don't buy content we make but we sell the content our models produce selling millions of dollars of it every month.
If your ''methods'' made me $40K a month extra the profit isn't that exciting -- that is why we have studios and affiliates -- they do the work and get most of the profit from the revenue. However, since you said in that other affiliate scam and dump thread that business ethics don't matter -- look elsewhere.

I have no use for porn producers -- if the models what to use social media it's really not a problem. But I am not paying for their ''lessons.'' That's their job. As they get most of the profits they can do their part work. We provide technical and social work information in a manual for them, in 5 languages so they can understand it.

Put up a website offering to train models for a fee, good luck ...

Then explain it. Because to most people they see the better the product, the better the sales.

40k extra in your pocket per month isn't worth it? Now I know you are a rep for a cam program that is paying you a salary and nothing else. When did you become so arrogant?

Blah blah blah. It's AMATEUR CONTENT. So it sucks. It's also "real" and it sells. Not retirement money but it sells.

And still you have no idea how much ANYONE makes, and that's what is so insulting. Fuck you dude. I will compare bank accounts any day of the week.

Blah blah blah. Carry on.

I see your point. You have a Selling Site that has 1,000s of models who have to work on many Selling Site to make a poor income. The rule of 10% produce 80% of the income means many are failing to convert on the Selling Sites. Which is bad for them and bad for you. Because the good girls are more than likely to be out of the studio or in Privat Chat. If you could make some of the 90% low earners into higher earners, you could increase your income.

You shouldn't have to pay for it. What I'm describing is something the Studio Owners should be doing. Could be put onto a part of your site only accessible by the studios, hell you could send it to them online as a video download. The biggest problem is the lack of girls who can speak passable English. So the extra profit is unattainable and this solution is for your competitors. Who are already using it.

No, it's not amateur, it's bad content for the reasons I stated.

I explained what AMATEUR CONTENT is and no way does that suck, it's a great niche. I produced it by the bucket load in the UK.

As you say no one can know what another person makes. Like you and all the others can't know what I made. I do know you can't afford to buy better content. Or are you now going to tell us better porn sells less than bad porn? :upsidedow

Here's the reason why he's not a good rep.

$40k extra in his pocket. Is how much extra in the pockets of affiliates, studios, models, and the boss? These people get most of the profits.

Is it only $40k with so many models who can be trained? An increase of 1% in sales of "millions of dollars of it every month." is better than a decrease of $40k to people who are adopting this new method.

Bottom line is what affiliates, studios, models, and the boss actually earn. Affiliates will move to the sites with the best conversions, some webcam site can convert traffic Xlovecam can't, models and studios work for many Selling Sites. So even if all his swagger persuades people to try out the site. Their income will decide if they keep working with them.

The problem in these blanket ideas is they have little foundation.

Unique is the first time the viewer has seen the scene, to him it's unique. Changing the girl, clothing, bed/sofa and not the action doesn't make it unique to the consumer.

The problem is the budget for the content. $300 for solo, $800 for GG, $1,000 for BG were the lowest prices for Exclusive Custom content. There's little chance of any of that being unique. Quadruple those prices and there's a chance it will be unique and good. The content producer can afford to create better porn. The best content producers are interested in producing doe online porn sites. And the odds of content being unique is a lot higher. So as I said it has to be good unique and the price is out of the reach of all but a few.

I brought up a good point here which AK plagiarised and agrees with.

The proliferation of affiliates helped no one long term. We see this with all the new gLTDs. We also saw it with paysites.

There was very little increase in new porn customers when it went online. All that happened was offline customers went online. There was a huge increase in the number of suppliers of porn. This meant the pot remained the same size and the feeders doubled, trebled and reproduced like mice. While there was new grain coming in, they over populated the arena.

The crash happened when offline porn had nothing left to attract. There was no new traffic from areas we relied on, but the response from online porn was to increase the number of sites and updates to increase the number of affiliates giving out free porn. Did it make the pot bigger? No, it made the share smaller for everyone.

In the UK, population 60 million. There were 5 companies selling mail order videos. Two were Ma & Pa operations. We remaining three were cleaning up. Porn Nerd dreams about making 80 sales a day. We were making 80 and more a day. Because no one else was in the business.

Then Tubes and piracy became monsters because of B/W costs. And the trough shrunk and mice died, and died, and died. We're on our way back to the 1990s of few suppliers ad billions of customers. The problem is shutting off the free supply of porn and the conversion rates of bought traffic. Where once a TGP could convert at 1-100 and get good traffic, Tube traffic converts at 1-5,000. for some worse than that.

The difference in CTR is even worse.

So standing still in the quality of the product isn't an option. Adapt or you will die.

If you don't find webcam models who are trained, someone else will. If you can't find great content that hits the niche, someone else will. And all the BS about I"m doing fine won't pay your bills.

Mine are paid in full and behind me. Because I adapted.

You just explained your content to a tee.. congrats!

I don't agree, I was just testing my Paul Markham text generator. :1orglaugh

I am not an affiliate rep.
You know so little apparently.

Let me put it on a level you might understand -- My immediate supervisor is the CEO of AC Webconnecting Holding BV.

What the fuck do you think we might net on net $40,000 a month and how much time and other bullshit in expense is involved in making it this way?
We generate much more than that A DAY.
What do you think the Net profit margin is in this?
We have 300 co-lo webservers, and many are production servers that cost over $10,000 to buy -- then the cost of 60 gbps in leased peering -- what do you think that this all costs a month? This is like talking to doorknobs ... pff

Maybe to you $40K is a fortune. if you think it is work with us, as a affiliate/studio/model and you will get most of the profit from it.

You must be mistaking be for some broke slob like yourself.

I am currently engaged in deciding the domain names to withhold from registration that are trademark 'sorta' -- most are word marks that are contestable -- $700K worth at wholesale. I deal in 6 - 8 figures decisions most the time.


As for the idea, try it. Capitalize it yourself. There are many webcam sites that can provide you the technical back end. But I won't adopt you and pay you an allowance. I haven't time for that. If you don't fit into the program you have to invest to do it your way.

Studios might hire you Paul -- for Czech wages (or less).
Write an e-book and sell it on kindle -- How to be a webcam star -- by Paul Markham sell it for $3.50 maybe you will sell 100 copies.

Find a way to make real money.

Paul, the closest I can figure you went out of business because you gave up. Then you got sick and you had a very small operation, with no market share, that no one would buy.

Yesterday's heros are today's shitheads.
Today's heros are tomorrow's shitheads.

If you were successful years ago you should have the investment capital to make a comeback. Or, be getting offers to consult or offers of board seats.

I have a marketing and affiliate staff meeting shortly -- one more cup of coffee ...

Your idea was presented by me in an executive summary 2 years ago and rejected -- don't be so butt hurt. Make it work and we may come and buy your business -- then you can retire with some real money 64 isn't that old.

Then don't make posts about how little your models earn. Or that you had to move to the Third world after finding out you couldn't afford First World ones, or that 90% earn very little, that they come and go all the time, etc.

how do you know it will only make $40,000 a month? Unless most of your models can't speak English,

Maybe to you $40K is a fortune. if you think it is work with us, as a affiliate/studio/model and you will get most of the profit from it.

Yes we will see how that pans out.


Others are already doing it.

Too late I found one and retired.

So you're clueless on this part as well.

It was predicted I would die from cancer, best case scenario was to lose my tongue and survive. After chemo and radiation, I beat the big C. Now don't have much stamina which you can see in the videos posted of me shooting.

I do have enough to invest, wouldn't invest it any business which turns over employees at the rate yours does. Or where so few earn so little, or where the model is past it's sales by date. My investments are in property.

Why do you say this is my idea, it's what the best in the webcam business are doing or planning to do. Who was it that's opening a studio in Las Vegas? Why do that and run it like the freelance Third World studios you have?

I don't doubt you rejected it, other took it up and kicking ass with it. There's another statement a serious businessman would never make.

66 in 3 weeks, remove the foot from your mouth again.

Paul, can you explain the bag of oranges stuff again please ?

Do you think the proliferation of affiliates and paysites dedicated to giving away free porn. Helped sales or reduced them for the entire indutry?

I think it reduced them and knowing some of the people who made it big in offline porn, from just selling to one main country. I can say no one online has come anywhere near them.

There were similar tycoons in all the major countries.