It was a stupid question, so I gave a stupid answer. Does the top porn webmaster earn as much as the top pornographer? Now name them and we can take a poke at it.

Webmasters very often don't. You think I can't look at a scene and tell you what's wrong with it. I did and your comeback excuse was BS, for the reasons I pointed out. You would know those reasons if you were a pornographer. This is the same as a programmer knowing what works and doesn't, or a car mechanic knowing what's wrong with a motor.

So someone with no real knowledge produced porn for over 30 years and made a very good living from it. It's a lot harder than you think. You would know that if you had ever shot porn.

A pornographer making 6 figures is the norm. You don't have a clue what I make now or made then. I can tell you I made enough money to wait 6 months to get the first payment on a magazine set and still keep producing 4-5 sets a week with 2 to 3 models a week. Nothing special about that, it's the norm for my profession. You would know that if you had a clue.

What I most certainly can do is look at stats and know a site sucks at getting traffic, because the sample content isn't good and sucks at converting because there's better porn to be bought. Mind you those things are dead easy.

Analysing stats shows people how the market and their product is changing. This is so easy today.

So the bullshit some are dishing out here, needs to stop.

Coming up with solutions needs more than stats, it needs knowledge of the customer, product. and market. None of the losers here have offered anything but "We are making loads of money and you aren't,". I'll bet some of that is based on their incomes past and present. And arrogance that they know everything.

I only know about marketing, selling, and porn. Dumping people onto a site is a skill I never bothered to learn.

I am pretty sure what we're witnessing here is early onset dementia :2 cents:

Feels real good to have someone assume you make no money, doesn't it Paul? Yet that is what you CONSISTENTLY do to everyone in this thread.

"I can look at stats and..." What stats Paul? Alexa? That's not a good indicator of whether or not a site is profitable so it's bogus. Any other STATS Paul you may be looking at to make your brilliant analysis? You know, like traffic sources, bounce rate, time on site, form hits, etc etc? NO because (like everyone else) you do not have access to such stats. So no Paul, you do NOT "look at stats" to make your judgments.

You did NOT make six figures a year back when you were shooting, even adjusted for today's rates. You have never made six figures income in one year in your entire adult life.

I am a former journalist who actually wrote for Penthouse magazine. I KNOW what "pornographers" got for their work. I also wrote for Oui and Swank and Hustler and...you get the point. So I can calculate exactly what someone got paid yearly and perhaps THE biggest shooters make 100K but YOU were certainly not an Earl Miller.

Paul -- Read this HARD https://gfy.com/18495435-post1.html save me the typing TROLL Since 2011.

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I can look at the crap dated content you have, I know a lot of it is revshare and see you can't afford to buy anything decent because you don't earn enough

OK tell people what all the magazines paid, while I sort out their invoices of what we got paid for non exclusive licenses. The price of content is why you can't afford to buy good content, why you can't afford mine and wanted a revshare deal which wouldn't be worth it to me. You know nothing and just bullshitting.

give us your best traffic site and we can see how much you have.

I said back off.

In the last two years, your traffic has halved, Chaturbate has soared. Trying to Bullshit people that it's only the freeloaders who moved, won't work. They have more intelligence.

xlovecam.com | Alexa ranking & traffic history for 7 years

chaturbate.com | Alexa ranking & traffic history for 7 years

Do you want to see more stats of why your style is losing and the new one is winning?

Since Paul keeps quoting Alexa stats, maybe he could explain the following.

1. How are Alexa statistics gathered ?

2. How do Alexa statistics provide an indication of profitability ?

3. What the relationship is between traffic and profit ?

So reveal your stats to show otherwise. We can compare the two.

The link between traffic and profits is clear as daylight and I find it amazing you don't know this.

Since the birth of TGPs there has been a section of the market that used to buy porn magazines switched to jerking off with the free images on TGPs. We saw ratios drop as more came online. Traffic swelled faster than the free jerk off surfers.

Then Tubes hit the business and those who used to pay for videos now were able to get them for free. Sales plummetted. Piracy made it worse or are you saying it didn't.

Now free webcams have hit you like a sledgehammer. People who used to pay for webcams now get them for free. But there's an indication the some of these free webcam sites are doing better. The quality of models. Barry has said his model isn't good enough to have Western Girls. The free webcams have Western Girls. Or are you going to bullshit us that those girls are earning less than his?

I understand simple logic is beyond you, a webmaster. Any businessman would see this as clear as daylight. I'm quoting what happened and you tried to fight against.

So tell us about this big company you own. :1orglaugh

Paul, stop avoiding the questions that have not been answered by you.

You keep quoting Alexa statistics, it would be good to know if you understand how to use them in context, so answer these three questions.

1. How are Alexa statistics gathered ?

2. How do Alexa statistics provide an indication of profitability ?

3. What the relationship is between traffic and profit ?

Tell us about the big company you own and stop trying to avoid the question.

Only an indication of people who like the site. How long they stay is a good indication. It's not as good as being able to look at the product and say you will need enough traffic to sell shit here because it's shit.

Well again if the product is shit and they don't have enough traffic to sell shit. The profits aren't there.

Assuming a CTR is 1-20 a site will need 2,000,000 a day to make an average income. 10,000 @ $4 per 1,000 = $400 a day. $146,000 a year less costs. Can your search engine hit that number seeing as it's not very good from the surfer's perspective?

I have asked, and you have avoided, the question. What's your marketing strategy to tell surfers where your surf engine is?

I very much doubt, surfers will be interested in buying anything on the paysites you charge for advertising. They might just go to Tube sites and stay there. When surfers enter free porn, will you send them to paysites?

Now you tell us what you think the links are. Unless you're on a bullshit trail.

Thanks for establishing that you don't understand how Alexa gathers it's statistics, you don't understand how to use Alexa data and you have zero understanding of the relationship between traffic and profit.

You've now confirmed for everyone what they already knew. You don't have any clue what you waffle on about.

As for my mainstream company, you have already been told several times that I am not posting that on an adult industry forum. It has no connection to adult and I'm going to keep it that way.

As for Node.XXX, you obviously don't read anything people say to you because it's been stated several times in this thread that we do NOT sell advertising.

The only person on a bullshit trail in this thread is you Paul.

You continually quote figures without substantiating them, you link to Alexa statistics without understanding them, you have no idea what anyone's traffic is because nobody is going to show you their internal statistics on a public forum.

However you know that people won't reveal their secret sauce, so you use that in your spin against them as not providing proof about what they are saying. It's a classic Markham trick and it's getting old.

How about you tell us about these lucrative property investments you say you have ? No ? Didn't think so.

You're full of shit.

For a very short time surfers were amazed there was porn online and joined on that impulse. Today more than ever content is GOD.

This is proven with every set of stats from where ever you find them. All the top traffic sites in any field are the ones with the best reasons for being there. Xhamster, Pornhub, Youporn beat even Brazzers because those free tubes have the best product to supply the need porn has always supplied.

Webmasters like AK, PN, Dig, Barry refuse to get that. Because not only don't they understand porn, they're clueless about marketing and selling. People with a clue have changed. Many have left selling porn altogether, some have gone to mainstream dating, some have left the online business altogether. How do I know? I'm still friends with people who bought my content. And some we see here.

My idea of bringing out the personality rather than the sex act works and has worked for decades. claiming "it's different online" needs backing up with evidence. Have the trolls given any?

If your content isn't the best or near it, Fewer people will bother to stop and look, fewer will buy, fewer people will send traffic and the only way online to stay in business is to adapt. Something I always did.

Here's Paul Markham's real ability as shown by real statistics.

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I don't work the site. I retired in 2008 and Eva stopped shooting to care for me. Yes for two years we could afford to not work. And if that's the best you can do, you failed.

You have yet to say why I'm wrong, you just say I am. You have yet to say why the link to how Alexa collects traffic is wrong. In fact, all you do is say I'm wrong.

You don't own anything except for your webmaster sites. At 8.00 in the evening, you're online working to keep the rent paid. As for not selling traffic from Node.xxx. You are right you won't be selling much as you won't have much.

Getting snarky now ? What a surprise! Another example from the Paul Markham book of bullshit.

If you're going to quote statistics then at least have some understanding of how they are gathered and the correct context in which to use them. You have neither.

1. I own over 100 websites.

2. I don't pay rent.

3. I spent most of the day at home with my other half after a morning breakfast meeting with my staff.

4. Node.XXX is very new. However the traffic is coming in, in bursts, mostly aligned with when it's been discussed in various online forums. I know it's not a lot, but it's a great start for a brand new site. See the current week below:

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Welcome to my ignore list.

Yeah I really didn't want my personal Twitter account posted here. What an asshole.

lol keep my name out your mouth troll.. why aren't you banned yet? Giving out personal information, calling people's family, you're a piece of shit. Go find some broke teenagers to lech over you gross old bastard.

It's obvious that the lengthy period of time Paul Markham was banned from this forum did nothing to teach him how to behave. :2 cents:

Alexa was measuring all of our ad broker traffic it was going to the domain -- it isn't now. Alexa doesn't see it. The Bounce Rate is too high on that bulk traffic. We did it intentionally so dummies that use the Alexa Traffic and Bounce rates are fooled.

Smoke and Mirrors

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Paul I showed you high quality sites that have EXPENSIVE content (more than you could afford, and better than you could ever shoot) and you dismissed it. The sites I listed in this thread make dozens of sales a day and they do not even represent all my sales. LOL

I can afford to buy and sell your whole family dude. Just because I choose to go revshare which, at the end of the day is MORE profitable (to me), should give you a clue but it doesn't so why bother. LOL

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I showed you this site in the past and your comment was (I still have the email): "I cannot offer any advice here. The content is fantastic."

No please, go ahead and dismiss this site just to prove your pointless points.

EDIT: While I was typing this post I made 3 sales, including two $99.95 sales, for the site listed above. :)

Also: I would never, ever 'offer you revshare' or offer to work with you in any way whatsoever. Your content is crap, your attitude is pissy and annoying and you are a clueless fool when it comes to making money on the Internet.

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He's clueless about everything.

However I can clue him up about one thing. He's going to really regret posting my personal Twitter account on GFY.

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15 hours on GFY and running a big business and dealing with employees. Or maybe bullshitting.

Difference between him and you is when he's not posting on GFY, he's actually working. You're on GFY all day EVERY day and you don't do shit except talk about how awesome you are. You were a B-level photographer years ago, nobody's first option. The guy they called when they couldn't get someone really good. That's it. A nobody even in your best days. It's astounding that you are so completely lacking in humility, self-awareness and common sense that you think you have the knowledge to answer anything more than whether to use flash in daylight or not. You're like a slow motion train wreck. You know it's going to come to a very bad end, but you just can't look away.

There's a little checkbox where you log that says "Remember Me".

It keeps you logged in.

Considering I have GFY open on 3 Macs at any one time, it's unsurprising I'll show as online even while I am asleep, away, doing other stuff.

Yes you have a couple of good sites, the problem is all the bad ones. Like you getting a BJ from a girl who looks bored anr your tiny dick refusing to rise. Must be you beceause you said so on the site. now you are denying it because......

The content you showed doesn't look like HD let alone 4K. You have to tell people it's HD inside the site.

You did offer to do revshare with me and I offered you to buy the license outright. However you judge of porn quality and my wealth is something you're clueless about.

Those were posts, you don't understand how GFY works.

Only Paul Markham understands GFY :1orglaugh

Retention is King.

Unless a site can convince people it's worth staying on and returning it, it's going to fail to maximise the traffic. So whether it's a Search Engine, Tube, Blog, TGP there has to be a lot of effort to convince people to stop and look, or better still listen.

Around 1980 we in the porn business learned that we are losing a lot of business to videos. That got increasingly worse, no worries mags were funded by advertising and still bought in huge numbers. Come TGPs sales dropped, there was a new and better way to get porn pictures. The video industry hadn't suffered much as B/W was too expensive to deliver the quality a DVD could. Once B/W costs dropped, the offline porn industry dropped.

None of the offline businesses were able to retain customers. They were old standard. Same with scanned, to SSD, to HD desperate hopes 3D and VR will bring back people to the old standard. Tubes are the new standard everyone competes with. Then there are other sites in the same niche to compete with. Both set the standard for customers.

Saying something is 4k, HD or whatever. Makes no difference. One has to prove it to the surfer.

Which one of these looks like HD let alone 4k?

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351 reasons why Paul Markham may have early onset dementia.

Ok so here are my last 4 posts.

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02.40am
06.25am
08.37am
17.53pm

See that huge gap between this morning and this evening ?

That's when I did what normal people call work.

FFS Markham, you are really bent out of shape. Is that because Eric deleted my private Twitter account from your reckless post which was way out of line ? If you want to post my Social Media accounts you can post my business ones, there's plenty to choose from. I'd prefer not to expose my Family and Friends on my private accounts to people like you.

Only Paul Markham understands retention.

Especially given his habit of contacting people from your personal life when he gets his feewings hurt. Just to 'help' you, of course.

I see Markham hasn't changed one bit :1orglaugh

Making the first page a person sees is essential to get them interested, start them absorbing what the site has and keeping them returning.

Chaturbate does this.

How does a site increase customer retention? It has to stay up with the competition or get ahead of it. So offering less than others sites offer, won't cut it. Offering one poor video of a girl sucking a guys dick won't cut it. Making it very erotic and niche will cut it. Offering only one video and showing low res pics destroys the work above. Unless the tour content is the standard of the member's area, there's a risk of CB.

But it's still all standard stuff, won't compete with the Brazzers and Fake Taxi level. And only they can spend the money needed to make the entire site in a high level. Those producing new content can do it. GSPOT, Robbie, Lady Sonia and others are proof it can be done and proof it sells better than them doing the same sort of anonymous videos the rest do.


So instead of spending 15 hours online and posting 16 posts. Spend time doing your webmaster of making sure your affiliate sites are the best that can be. And stop bullshitting about being a CEO.

You are losing it, seriously. :2 cents:

Your attempts to bait me into posting about my mainstream company are not going to work. I do not want that company associated with adult - you can keep trying all you like.

Knowing how keen you are to gather information about people, it would be foolhardy to provide you the opportunity to ring and harass my staff, or my call centre, or 24 hour support lines. What is it about you and your unhealthy desire for other people's information ? You won't answer any questions about your own background, personal investments, income, business activity or so forth, so why would you expect people to provide you with information about their businesses - especially those not related to adult - on a public adult forum ?

Personally I think your tendency to stalk people is rather disturbing, but other people can judge whether that's a harsh assessment or not.

Paul is so funny! He thinks because I tell the surfer it's me (on The New Adventures of The Porn Nerd - Free Tour - Welcome!) that it's actually ME. Well, I SAID it's me on the Tour so it MUST be me and my little dickie on that site, right? LOL

Paul you are so precious. The Man Who Knows Marketing. LOL

You can disrespect Eros Exotica, Fellucia Blow or any other of my dozens of awesome websites but the fact is this: I created them, I did the work and I reap the financial benefits from such work (as do my business partners and affiliates).

So: I win. YOU are a retired loser who has to put everyone down to feel better about how you spent your life. This makes you a small, sad person.

Carry on (and thanks for all the affiliate signups Paul!).

More business advice from a man who failed and couldn't get back up.
Retires in a country with low costs (CZ) and lives off his pensions.

You will be eating cat food and bananas in 10 years.

I am glad I am not you Paul.

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I agree with you, if you're talking about people who actually have any intention of spending. just curious as to how you've determined that Barryxlove and PornNerd are failing at that, beyond alexa I mean which is not in any way an accurate method for determining rebills (paysites) and client spending (cams), let alone actual traffic levels. In cams a visitor can be worth thousands or nothing at all, and alexa has no function for determining rebills. even with accurate traffic stats, there is no one-to-one connection between traffic levels and profits.

in the case of xlove, I work with a few uber-successful cammers who also work xlove. they are not north american but they bank and I can't imagine they'd stay on xl if they didn't bank there as well.

just odd to me that you're insulting the work product of two people who run thriving businesses, in a time of significant industry change, without any tangible evidence to back up your assertions.

the size thing was a spiteful and juvenile comment, for real surprised you even bothered to reply to it

this is anecdotal but I love Eros Exotica. have sent a few of my own clients there as well (I tend to watch a LOT of porn with a few of my dudes). It's beautifully shot (love the chiaroscuro) and we like that not every chica isn't a blue-eyed blonde and that the dudes tend to be hot too.

I'd guess that anyone who criticizes the content is either being petty or just doesn't like that style personally.

to each their own, but the personal opinion of one individual has no bearing on your success or the quality of what you have put together.

so weird to me that some peeps invest so much effort in trying to tear others down, just to prove a point.

makes no fucking sense.

Xlove can be judged as porn from what Barry has said and from the returning visitors. His model of webcams is one that can't compete enough to attract Western Visitors. Porn Nerd can be judged by the quality of content he can afford to buy. Kelly Likes To Give A Blowjob - XVIDEOS.COM it's boring. This isn't amateur content, it's a paid model giving some small dick guy a blowjob for money. That's how pornographers and customers see it.

This shows how good consumers think his content is,

CHANNEL RANKING 638th
Videos 47
Views 9,901
Subscribers 26

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Mature Dick with a Pinkish Pussy - Pornhub.com one very uninspired girl.

As a pornographer who had to invest a lot of money before getting paid I had to know what sold well. This content doesn't sell well.

Once he stops with the spite, I will stop. However, I'm looking at it from the consumers POV and they will think this is a small dick loser paying girls to allow the guy to fondle, get a bj and badly fuck them. It's not the porn many customers want to buy.

I love that site and know about it. I came second to the producer in an offline awards show. If he could get more of this it would be a very profitable business. Problem is funding the production, what he has got is what leads me to think he's not making a lot od money.

I've had 15 years of it and look at what others say about me and my content.

I expressed my personal opinion that people whose skills are driving traffic, shouldn't be so powerful in a business where the quality of the product is paramount. The people who see that approach as a threat spend a lot of time telling me I'm wrong and often using spite to do so.