World's first self-driving taxis officially hit the road - CBS News

Some commercial drivers are going to be first on the 'hit list' -- taxi drivers and long haul truck drivers :2 cents:

Low skilled and low cost factory assembly labor in Asia is next on the list.
Domestic labor is too expensive in the USA and a good part of Western Europe.

High value goods that are manufactured in the USA and Western Europe will increasingly be made, where possible, with robotic automation. You don't need to pay robots mandated workers insurances and benefits -- these costs can cost an additional 40% - 60% on top of the cost of wages. Lower cost will translate to both lower cost consumer products and better corporate profits that go to shareholders as well as higher competitive wages for the jobs that remain.


Buggy whip makers are out of work.
The blacksmiths in the first and second worlds are gone.
The stablemen are no longer needed.
The are 1/3 the number of auto assemblers with left with work.

If you do not have a needed skill in the workforce you are just not needed. If the cry was for a new tax to pay for vocational education to train or retrain workers -- this might be acceptable. We still need tradesmen, repairmen and technicians if you don't have what it takes to learn a professional skill or manage a business.

Life will be pretty grim for the displaced masses who can only offer low skilled labor -- but that is not my fault;

• Why should I be assessed more taxes to pay for the inequity?
• People with lesser skills need more money so I should be taxed to pay for them.
• This new underclass does not want to learn (or have the ability to learn) the needed job skills
• So, I should work hard with my hard learned skills to pay for their inabilities or unwillingness?

That is a fool's argument -- no wonder they can't make it.

I may have to pay for their very minimal existence -- as minimal as needed to keep them in barracks to be used as cheap labor for their subsistence if they want to consider themselves worthy to participate in society. $400/mo, a bunk in a barracks, work to better themselves of this will be their lot in life.

I have had to acquire new job skills ever 4 times in my 40 years of working -- I kept myself competitive. There are not many jobs left with 30 and out and you get a good pension. Life is a bitch then you die, and usually not with much dignity these days -- that's just the fuckin' way it it -- so man up and deal with it.

No, I don't have any silly charts to try to prop up a unworkable (pun intended) position. No one owes me a lifestyle. Those marginal workers are not my customers and the majority of my customers will benefit financially from increasing automation and expanding robotics. They will make more money to spend. They will have more disposable income they can use buying cam shows -- one of the few jobs left that does not require a technical degree -- the world keeps turning -- life goes on :2 cents:

You want children to grow up in a workhouse, in bunks, with hopelessness, noise and disease all around them, managed by bureaucrats and petty tyrants? You want a toddler in that environment? Far better to work with women to help them understand family planning.

before 1954 they have learned to read and write. for create Constitution :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The Communist Party of China (CPC) :1orglaugh It was founded in 1921
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for globalists time to cut costs on the middle class in west
how you think how many time needed for that? if it make fast people start protest

Friend Sarn, the fact that the party was created in 1921 does not mean that China has had 95 years of stable communist rule! You're forgetting the purges and struggles, and recreation of the government. The body even ceased to function for years.

Fucked up if true, Comrades

Population control should be voluntary option. Problem is only the intelligent consider it :2 cents: Breeding children to get welfare benefits is a problem -- can you imagine what paying every person in a society $1000 (€)/month will do to breeding people for money? That is utter insanity.

Revolutions happen when revolutions happen. That is an empty threat. People work harder for two fish heads in their rice bowl instead of one.

Why should I pay an extra $5K ($20K?) a year in taxes to support you and your children in relative comfort? I don't want the government to guarantee your income by capping mine with taxation -- that us utterly ludicrous.

The result is the $15 Big Mac in New York City -- lolz. Who the fuck do you think will pay for this?

Just repeal money. Then there is no currency and you are only worth what you can make or do. In 10 years we will be a scavenger society in 200 years back in the stone age.

my children have nothing in common with yours. Plenty of of opportunity for smart people. look at us for example, I'm happily a part of the 1% as my children will be. You're an old fool who squandered his opportunity and now lives on a tiny state supplied pension.

There's always opportunity, the bottom just doesn't know what to do with it.

Ever seen the rape statistics for Sweden?. Crazy shit

How many Swedish girls have you met --lolz

fact of the matter is that most homo sapiens are low skilled workers...capable of nothing else but being low skilled workers...take away their low skilled jobs and you also take away a substantial part of the skilled workers market...

uber will make money with the driverles taxis, but the millions that will be out of work spend money on some companies products where some high skilled worker works and buys your cam shows with the money he earns...uber driverless will cost YOU money, make no mistake about this...

those millions of drivers that will be out of a job would buy millions of shirts, cars, toys, lawnmowers, hairdryers, bagels, coffees, laptops, cellphones ect...those sales will be no more...on the other hand the guys at uber and their shareholders will not buy millions of cars, shirts ect but will probably buy much much less...

there is no scenario where this does not cost the high skilled workers still with jobs...low skill workers are much of the high skilled workers market...

the war against human jobs is being fought on 3 fronts at the same time:
-amazon and wallmart vs all small shops and affiliates
-robot workers and autopilot vehicles
-AI as a service

51 robots replacing humans.
If the progress towards the ultra elite owning everything doesn't turn around, there will be revolution or we will be back to workhouses of the Victorian times.

Your smartness is based on a big middle class having money to spend. What happens when they can't even afford you to fix their roof or buy into your cross sale scams?

You and I became part of the 1%, your jibes are stupid and hide your lack of knowledge to debate the subject. We did it by selling a product that's now given away. Unless you own one of the top 10 Tubes, you're out of porn as a living. As for roofing who will be able to afford you?

Then price will be KING. You will have to go back to earning what a roofer earned in the 1900s.

What skills do you have that are so essential or huge business do you own that can be passed onto your children? Doctor, Lawyer, Scientist, or a hospital porter?

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Why should I pay an extra $5K ($20K?) a year in taxes to support you and your children in relative comfort? I don't want the government to guarantee your income by capping mine with taxation -- that us utterly ludicrous./QUOTE]

Because it may be you that will be on welfare one day. Plus the more people who can buy porn, the more chances you have of a job.

The delusional think the opportunities we have today will be here in 50 years.

As someone who enjoyed the opportunities 50 years ago. I can say you're banking on a return to the past. Children have far fewer opportunities today, advance 50 years and there will be far less.

Your children want to be a lawyer. Can you afford $100,000 a year to send them to University? That's after paying for private school to get them up to a level where they could go onto University.

The ultra rich can and will. Look back 100 years and see who could afford to get well educated to see the future. The ultra rich won't need you to buy ad space. Mindgeek will own the camsites or do tight deals among the few camsites left. Two people are needed for that.

Go back 15 years and see how many people were working in porn. Now look at today. You could do live cam. :1orglaugh

They will never be replaced by a robot.

that's nonsense, everyone is capable of doing skilled work... "skilled work" doesn't mean you need to be a genius or even have above average intelligence...

it just means you put in some effort to acquire some useful skill... which is not unlike learning to ride a bike, a complete moron would take longer to learn, but eventually everyone is able to do it...

you are the one that is delusional... with the invention of the internet opportunities available to everyone grew 10 or 20x fold from 50 years ago... now is the easiest time ever to start a business, easiest time ever to get funding, easiest time ever to learn any skill, etc...

Paul I don't plan on some minimalist income plan to guarantee my security.

The future belongs to the well educated, the risk takers or the moneyed like it always has really :2 cents:

technology has started to evolve and adapt faster than humans...you already have a deficit of skilled workers in the USA so you import them...

you are heavily betting on 3 million drivers in the USA who will lose their jobs to auto-pilot vehicles, adapting to being IT guys or craftsmen or whatever...but reality is: most people are capable of only low skilled jobs...packing cans in factories...driving a forklift...mowing lawns...driving a cab...working as a cashier...

oh but its a great time for the 5% who get computers and can come up with a business idea and actually get funding for their startups etc...only they wont have much of a market left to sell to...

but even in this short time communism give great result :1orglaugh
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Such as what?

Tell us what you can do to open a business and make a lot of money. When your target audience is too poor to buy anything.

This isn't about you and me. It's about our children and grandchildren.

Agreed about the well educated. Are you willing to pay more in tax to make sure more are well educated or going to pay for private education?

Because at the moment, public education in the US is short of funds.

The real decision will be made by the people who vote. If Trump has done one thing its expose a growing problem. Next time it could be someone with less mouth and more brains who stands up for those who are having their future's taken away from then.

100% of swedes now hate their country. Reason is because of the massive scum bags that entered their country.

China is not a Communist State, it's rampant Capitalism where a few rule the majority with a gun.

Communism is based on sharing wealth, not a few accumulating it. The problem was human nature of greed. While relying on human workers. Take out the need for human workers and it the chance to vote for an alternative. Then all that's needed is the support of the Army and Police.

China is a great example of how a tiny few can run a country on the backs of the people. What it needs to prosper is the West buying its goods. At the moment Western jobs are going to China by the day. Not just jobs for the low skilled, China is advancing and taking high skilled and high tech jobs. How many of the robots we see in their infancy are made in the West and how many in the East?

Ford opened a car plant in Mexico, so they can sell those cars in the US. Just one example of the 0.01% exporting jobs to increase their profits.

Now factor robotic machines into the equation. They won't need to export jobs, they just sack workers. Can anyone here target areas like Detroit and see the sales that come from there? Detroit was once known as Motor City. Look at what happened when the car plants closed.

Imagine Silicon Valley going to Bejing. Already most of the computers we use are made in the East. What's to stop the jobs of design and program them going East?

Who outsources to a Third World country already? Besides Barry. Who states, American models are too expensive and he's a supporter of the Third World Cam Studio System. Will his boss decide someone in the Philippines can do his job for half the price or a Philippino starting cam site using the studios Xlovecam use? And selling to the West?

The Internet is a great place to start a business, whether you live in New York or Manilla.

This is already happening, the millions voting for Trump either know he's unfit to run a country and don't care, because they have nothing to lose. Or so badly educated they don't see his flaws.

Your "opportunities" are all based on having the products to sell, ability to show those products and people to buy your products. Amazon, Pornhub, Chaturbate and similar are closing offline shops and pornsites down all the time. So you have to compete with the big boys to make those opportunities.

In a Democracy it's not down to the individual. Trump is standing for election on a platform of turning around the decline of living standards for millions. Sanders stood on a platform of changing the broken system, UKIP stood on the platform of taking away power from an elite and won. This will take time to change, or it will slowly get worse for the middle classes, which is where out wages come from. The Middle Class or the West, so thinking an online world market will be there. Check your sales from the Third World. That market is under threat.

Capitalism Capitalism of course :1orglaugh
if the country is run by the Communists it be capitalism, i know that :1orglaugh
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Yes, for a short time. Sarn, would you rather have a short happy time and then a decade of purges and killings, or a long happy time? I don't need to post a pic of NYC, everyone already knows what it looks like. PS, the people in the pictures you post?

Here are the rest:

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They're communist by name only. I can call myself a horse, doesn't mean I am one.

I don't have any children so my opinion is not influenced by emotion.

I entered the job market in 1973 and endured recession after recession as well as the first effects of automation. Things were not easy. Things are the same today really it is just that the Millennials are facing the same crisis albeit more inequitable.

A lot of the wealth in China is from limited capitalism in the communist state. The products made in China with cheap labor (where possible) will be made by robotics (robot workers) in the nations that are technically able to do it. The workers in the Chinese factories will return to the fields as substance farmers unless they can develop a locally supported market that is not reliant on massive exports.

Workers in the USA will not be that greatly affected. Those with good skills have good jobs. The McJobs and Wally World Workers will still be needed but less and less as automation and robotic jobs displace some.

The Romans had the Colosseum and handed out bread to the hungry -- that is minimal support for people that give minimal work -- for whatever reasons.

As for the education system:
The school district here (K-12) spent $50 million on one new elementary school and remodeling the high school (originally built in the 1970s) -- I am paying $150 a year for 20 years assessed on my property taxes to pay off that school district bond debt. A large part of the remodel expense was in building computer labs and other technically oriented learning centers towards training of the basic skills for the kind of work that will be available.

If there was a county wide assessment of $200 a year on my property for vocational community college school facilities, fixtures and equipment that was making a serious effort to deal with this coming issue I would probably vote for it.

I have no children in school. I can deal with it. The only benefit is that the small suburban school district adds some value to my property. Commercial property pays a millage rate that is twice mine as residential property -- they pay for the schools too without direct benefit, their only benefit being schooled workers of the future (perhaps -- it the kids stay in the area). An educated labor pool.

A basic annual income tax would be maybe cost 15% in an across the boards tax increase. No, I don't want to donate 15% of my taxable income to people that cannot or wont work if they are physically able but mentally deficient for retraining -- you are out of your fucking mind?

Maybe 50 million workers are going to be displaced -- 50% of them can find new work and 20% can learn new skills. The other 30% are going to have a shitty existence. But that is not my fault ...

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^ that said I got work to finish by the end of the month.

I prefer the freedom of choice.

Wehateporn just might be the most misinformed person who has ever existed.

China have this economic system.
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why she here? :1orglaugh

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Who the fuck are you kidding?**[Added: not adjusted for population -- but still -- fortunes are being made in the Chinese Communist State. Workers do not own the means of production at all -- other than the stock market equities. How's that for Capitalist?]

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fuck youtube ...

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"If you do not have a needed skill in the workforce you are just not needed."

"I may have to pay for their very minimal existence -- as minimal as needed to keep them in barracks to be used as cheap labor for their subsistence if they want to consider themselves worthy to participate in society. $400/mo, a bunk in a barracks, work to better themselves of this will be their lot in life."
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You don't understand sarcasm and cynicism in the English language I see -- that is exactly right. However, I was thinking of Stalinist collective farms and gulags more specifically -- how did that work out? :upsidedow

Some economic theories are unworkable in a free society. They may be able to do this in a small nation like Switzerland -- basic income guarantees. Switzerland is not the USA, France or China. Denmark is a very small country existing in a broad based EU economy.

A small state in the USA could tax and redistribute a basic income guarantee stipend perhaps but that would not work in more diverse and populated states. However, that would be challenged in the federal courts -- guaranteed.

On a federal level in the USA the idea of a basic income stipend by taxation and wealth redistribution is ludicrous. People do not have a constitutional ''explicit'' right to an income in the USA. In fact, this would take a constitutional amendment here Constitutional Amendment Process not going to happen here ...

Things won't be the same tomorrow.

Will those robots be in the US and the profits shared. Or the Far East and profits in the hands of a few?

What skills are you referring to? Think of a World like the late 19th Century. High Skilled Blacksmiths worked for very little. Same as most of the people who built the magnificent houses of the era. Again what skills do you think you can acquire that can't be done cheaper in China, that's assuming China isn't #1 and employing only Chinese.

And we have TV, the Internet and cheap imports. For now.

You're assuming they will have decent jobs to go to after school.

What happens if Xlovecam goes to the wall or is bought out by Mindgeek? you might be one3 of te people woring in Wallyworld.

Maybe only 10% of them can find a new job paying the same amount. The rest have to tighten their belts or have a shitty life. These are your customers. so your income drops.

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When Budda was alive, the world wasn't changing. Today you have to think of tomorrow.

Imagine losing 5% of you market every year due to the people not being able to afford to buy. Add 20% going to the new Cam sites.

You obvioulsy can't think of adapting. So what comes next? :Oh crap