not so stupid for those wanting to start shooting in 4k and only have a budget. You can get an i7 with 1gb graphics car, 200gb ssd and 16gb ram for just over £500. This would be able to edit 4k.

We have a 4k camera but still working on i5 and unable to edit the 4k. We're in the same position as you, looking at either high quality laptops of about £1000 plus or a pc of about similar.

Hence knowing about the ssd and the normal harddrive.

Obviously if you have lots of money, you could go for a piece of art, something like >

TypeXD's Completed Build - Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core, GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB (2-Way SLI) - PCPartPicker

5k later, it will still only do the same job as something of 2k, maybe just a bit quicker or sometimes quieter.

What MaDalton has looks like a perfect set up and should last for a few years too :thumbsup

Those are Bluray burners that also burn dvd's. If you don't need 2 then just get one, most people like to have at least one optical drive. And in my opinion ssd is overpriced, most video editing and processing takes up huge space, so you can save money getting cheaper hard drives. But if you prefer ssd and want to spend the money then get it.

It's no wonder people don't take you seriously. Here, let me help you out:



I have a top of the line MacBook Pro from late 2015. It's an outdated machine but it runs Final Cut Pro, which I use from time to time. It edits 6K RED footage doing this.

I would always use the CPU instead of the GPU for processing videos. The GPUs are faster, but the quality comes out looking like crap at the same bitrate in comparison to CPU processing.

the problem with all the advice here is that everyone is assuming you are using 4K the same way they are.

THE most important question is what format are your 4K masters in? is it pro-res, avchd long GOP, H.265 the answer to that question will determine your best bet.

one thing for sure you NEVER EVER want to try to edit 4K online...only locally.

Well good luck with that, it really sounds like you know what you are talking about. :thumbsup

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yes, I know bluray burners, my laptop has the one, my pc has 2, but the OP didn't need dvd burning, he request was 4k editing. So I said, you don't need the 2 burners & you need the ssd instead of 3 graphics cards...

1 or 2 graphics cards, 1 or 2 gb each would do, and 500gb ssd and a 250gb sata for programs. The ram would be good to 32gb and an Asrock motherboards best. Maybe a water cooling unit if you can afford it :thumbsup

final cut pro is great as is vegas pro :thumbsup

athough you still need the 4k screen and graphics card able to edit 4k or your system will still crash :2 cents:

Different strokes for different folks I guess. I definitely think the more gpu's you have the the better your machine will run almost any gpu software. But also the amount of time it takes will be cut down huge. 1-2 GB of ram in GPU is small now. The new top of the line stuff has 8-12 GB ram. Ram is important for gpu. The more the better, you will notice the difference. As for the size of the hard drives that all depends on the needs of each user. I always like to have excess storage though.

Having more GPU processing power will speed up your video editing and encoding/transcoding far more than having ssd. SSD is great and better than normal hard drive, but if I was looking for an area to save money that's where it would be. Of course if you don't need to save then get SSD.

Get the new Generation of Core i7 6800k, its the best bang for your buck from the new generation of i7's, if you need cheaper you can look into certain e5 xeon's
Get 64GB of Ram, worth it in the long term
Get Whatever brand montherboard you think is best. I like EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI
Get multiple gpu's Stick with radeon rx480 or nvidia gtx 1060, 1070, 1080 depending on budget. Don't get older model stuff.

For the case, hard drives, optical drives, power supply, get whatever fits your budget.

I like EVGA brand personally because they have a real lifetime warranty and they actually honor it, I bought a $700 gpu back in 07 and they replaced it in 2013 with the new version top of the line.

Again, no your don't. Watch the fucking video I posted Gary. I have delivered 4K files from a laptop that does not play them and does not have a 4K monitor.

That statement is yet another reason you're not taken seriously here.

Nothing can substitute for cpu power. I've been doing this over 10 years. All this sli and crossfire stuff is bullshit for rendering. I had 3 in crossfire and it's actually faster with one card. Unless you are bucking up for a 5 thousand dollar quadro card you wont see more than a cunt hair of improvement with a gaming card.
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Buck up for 2 big ssd's

first, stop talking like an arse hole and have some respect for your fellow GFYers.

I don't speak like shit to you & don't expect it back...

ok, for starters, then why when I shoot in 4k, try to play the video, my laptop crashes. An I5, 4gb ram, an I7 is needed with 4k graphics video card and 12 or 16 gb ram, this is what I've been told.

I shall watch the video when I have time but this is what I've been told by professional pc people.

only one i needed because programs are great on normal sata drives :2 cents:

Gary,
Ssd's are the only way to go. Especially for your os and where you will render the vid to. It's best to render on the same disc, preferably 2 os ssd's raid zero. Store your vids on sata drives. I have an 320 terabyte server, I think 240 tb redundant in raid 60 over 10gbs cat 6a, 10gbs switch and 10gbs nic cards. The bottle neck is the sata at 6gbs but thats fine transfering to. I digress. Clearly you are going the consumer route. Whereas i have 14,000 dollars in just hard drives alone. I think we're comparing a pro setup vs a hobbyist setup. No disrespect but you're network is like a yellow 74 pinto with a brown door.
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I am editing several 4K videos right now. Each file is in MP4 format and is around 20gb per video. I am using my newest computer, with Windows 10, and I have 16mb of video RAM. But I am not really 'editing' (as in raw footage), more like slicing and dicing.

The "issue" I have with 4K is how can the average user, especially on mobile, truly appreciate the dynamics of 4K? Chances are they will want to view a 1920x1080 "UHD" video compressed down to some size they can actually stream. It takes forever to download a 20gb video and try streaming that size.

So, to me, while 4K is great it's so watered down for the Web that it's not much better than HD in the end. Of course, that may just be me. LOL

I suppose that would matter which country you're in...

A 4k vid of 20gb would take a moment n Britain atm, with 200mb download per second & same with US with higher. Alas, over Europe, most lines are still only 30 or 40 mb max, so yes, can create a problem :thumbsup

Sadly, that is so far from the norm. The UK average is still less than 30Mbps. Sure 200Mbps is available in some areas but it is far from the norm and the 200Mbps is exerting a lot of influence on the low 30Mbps average figures.

4K streaming will be looking for 20Mbps as a minimum I'd have thought, probably higher.

With Virgin I recently ugraded from 200Mbps to 300Mbps and whilst the download speed difference is negligble I managed to negotiate a much higher upload speed.

Even at 300Mbps, 20GB takes a lot more 'minutes' than you might think. It's not exactly 'moments'.

4k is pointless streaming. Especially if you are offering it in 5.1 dolby atmos or better. Heck, the average computer has issues with 4k being played locally.

So... what's the point shooting 4K? Less people have desktops... there was allready a massive shift to mobile, tablets and that kind of devices... Those kind of devices seem very unfit to do the job of streaming/downloading 4K...

There are plenty of reasons to shoot 4K, even if it's going to be delivered in 1080.

For starters, downsampled 4K footage looks better than 1080p footage.

You can zoom, pan and make other moves in post.

There's more...

https://fstoppers.com/originals/6-reasons-shoot-4k-video-even-if-you-cant-view-it-yet-77535

http://www.redsharknews.com/production/item/1836-oversampling-101-shooting-4k-for-hd-delivery

Because you're a fucking idiot, that's why. It's obvious from this here discussion that you're pretty much clueless when it comes to 4K video and the hardware needed to make use of it.

I don't care what you're been told. You're just repeating what you think is right, while having no clue. Seriously, you're the one contributing idiocy to this thread.

And GO Fuck Yourself with your "respect", that's funny.

Quit trying to pretend you know what you're talking about. Everyone here knows that you don't have even the slightest of clues.

Thanks....

Really.. ? Just checked a company that offers 500 Mbit/s in this shithole I live in.. for 30e per month.