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beavr 10-21-2016 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21237073)
Different facets of generations are coming of age. The 18-24 yo's have litterally grown up with the internet as we know it now. Not spanking to a 3 second mpeg that took a day to download. I'd conjecture cams are leveling off too and tubes aren't growing monetarily straight up on the chart anymore. Overall, everything just seems meh these days. Nothing is worth stroking your cock to. I only stoke to my own stuff and admittedly that's less than it was. I haven't seen anything from anyone that is good. There is just content less miserable than other content.

Blacked?

altmman 10-21-2016 01:08 AM

I earn about half what I made 6 years ago, and working harder than I did then. And I promote a very specialized niche.

The writing is on the wall that it's only going to get worse. People are now used to getting it for free and are flippant when asked to pay. My own friend told me "Porn is free everywhere, only idiots pay for porn".

Now Im going to diversify and have half my business be porn and the other half starting a B to B service for mainstream companies.
Im dreading maintream, but if I want to eat 3 years from now I'll have to change my focus.

Major (Tom) 10-21-2016 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by beavr (Post 21237214)
Blacked?

Nope. I think it's lit well. Thats about it

PornDiscounts-V 10-21-2016 05:28 AM

I make more sales month to month. Not less. If you are in a downward spiral it means you should consider doing something else. Not saying McDonald's, just something else in industry.

Google Expert 10-21-2016 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21237373)
Nope. I think it's lit well. Thats about it

DukeSkywalker, what's your Skype?

I try to search you in skype by your address, but there are like 20 people

Denny 10-21-2016 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 21237541)
I make more sales month to month. Not less. If you are in a downward spiral it means you should consider doing something else. Not saying McDonald's, just something else in industry.

:2 cents::2 cents:

3xmedia 10-21-2016 06:44 AM

depends on what you do, I know some guys that left the biz like 10 years ago, they used to submit one gallery per day to the hun and worldsex, it paid their home. ten they complained it doesn't work anymore, adult is dead and they need to get a day job.

AndyA 10-21-2016 07:27 AM

Check out VRBallers.com and promote VR3000

The VR stuff as long as it is exclusive is converting BIG TIME

regular adult HD is not......

VR is the future

Major (Tom) 10-21-2016 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 21237541)
I make more sales month to month. Not less. If you are in a downward spiral it means you should consider doing something else. Not saying McDonald's, just something else in industry.

Not true. There is no way you can beat each month every month indefinitely. Maintaining after the point of diminishing return is actually excellent for a mature business. Speaking as a program and not an affiliate I have more data to go by. Shit is definitely odd so we're changing things up inside and out bottom to top. Figure I have a 100 sales by 10am, double that by midnight conservatively. I don't even think that's a lot, but I'm sure it's more than several affiliates in this thread doing 10 a day and now 5 day and saying something is up. I do enough volume to know when something is wrong. That's why we're overhauling and simplifying some stuff. I have full confidence I will right my ship. I always do. I wouldnt have thrown my own money back into it to redo thinhs if I didn't have absolute faith in myself, my staff, my content, and my production team. We have some cool stuff coming out.
D F'n S

Google Expert 10-21-2016 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 21237661)
depends on what you do, I know some guys that left the biz like 10 years ago, they used to submit one gallery per day to the hun and worldsex, it paid their home. ten they complained it doesn't work anymore, adult is dead and they need to get a day job.

Key-phrase here is "10 years ago"

:2 cents:

Jigster715 10-21-2016 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21237979)
Not true. There is no way you can beat each month every month indefinitely. Maintaining after the point of diminishing return is actually excellent for a mature business. Speaking as a program and not an affiliate I have more data to go by. Shit is definitely odd so we're changing things up inside and out bottom to top. Figure I have a 100 sales by 10am, double that by midnight conservatively. I don't even think that's a lot, but I'm sure it's more than several affiliates in this thread doing 10 a day and now 5 day and saying something is up. I do enough volume to know when something is wrong. That's why we're overhauling and simplifying some stuff. I have full confidence I will right my ship. I always do. I wouldnt have thrown my own money back into it to redo thinhs if I didn't have absolute faith in myself, my staff, my content, and my production team. We have some cool stuff coming out.
D F'n S

I like the cut of your JIB , sir. Reminds me of Abraham on TWD. Jokes aside, I believe you are dead on right.

ianmoone332000 10-21-2016 09:55 AM

My Chaturbate earnings have died a death recently. I was close to hitting $1k over the 2 week cycle just a few weeks ago. We are 6 days into this current cycle and iv made $23. Fucking joke

Major (Tom) 10-21-2016 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jigster715 (Post 21238072)
I like the cut of your JIB , sir. Reminds me of Abraham on TWD. Jokes aside, I believe you are dead on right.

I was hoping for eugene but i'll take abraham!
Thumbs up
Ds

The Porn Nerd 10-21-2016 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21237979)
Not true. There is no way you can beat each month every month indefinitely. Maintaining after the point of diminishing return is actually excellent for a mature business. Speaking as a program and not an affiliate I have more data to go by. Shit is definitely odd so we're changing things up inside and out bottom to top. Figure I have a 100 sales by 10am, double that by midnight conservatively. I don't even think that's a lot, but I'm sure it's more than several affiliates in this thread doing 10 a day and now 5 day and saying something is up. I do enough volume to know when something is wrong. That's why we're overhauling and simplifying some stuff. I have full confidence I will right my ship. I always do. I wouldnt have thrown my own money back into it to redo thinhs if I didn't have absolute faith in myself, my staff, my content, and my production team. We have some cool stuff coming out.
D F'n S

Also being a Program Owner I agree with you 100%. I have been doing this crazy business for eight years now and my earnings for existing sites has maintained steady levels for 3-4 years. I only increase my revenue when I add new sites and features (new CMS = more rebills, new Tours = more Joins).

No business (except perhaps the NFL) maintains constant, never-ending growth. You really do need enough volume daily to see meaningful patterns. This year, since Jan., my sales have gone up, up, up, down, up, up, down, up, down (Oct being down also). When I compare these figures to 2012 (the last Presidential Election) I see similar numbers but not quite as "bad". But since 2012 we have reached the "tipping point" when it comes to mobile, plus Visa has changed its regulations since then. We've had massive credit card fraud in mainstream (Home Depot etc). ALL these factors should be added in so 2016 is not exactly 2012 - but pretty close.

Again, let's regroup mid-November/early December and see how things are then.

oppoten 10-21-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 21238189)
No business (except perhaps the NFL) maintains constant, never-ending growth.

um...

https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=N...ings&FORM=EWRE

altmman 10-21-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21237979)
Speaking as a program and not an affiliate I have more data to go by. Shit is definitely odd so we're changing things up inside and out bottom to top. Figure I have a 100 sales by 10am, double that by midnight conservatively.

Thank you, thank God someone who is honest. It makes me want to promote you more to hear someone tell the truth who knows what he's talking about. :thumbsup

All those mega programs who were swimming in money 10 years ago didn't suddenly close their doors because they were making too much money. They saw sales slowing down and left.

greg1 10-25-2016 09:08 AM

+1 october extremely low sales

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