100.........Biznezz Killers :Graucho

I disagree, I've been dabbling in the traffic business for 18+ years and I get by ;)
WG

Are you talking about your paysites?
Or none-paysites?

I ask because I've never ever seen a paysite on the first page of google, not in the last 6 years that is. Unless it was different in your niche? And it just now caught up to your niche?

So many questions. :party-smi

Any good reference sites you read up on to stay current with SEO trends.

I read SEOMoz once in awhile but find the blog posts vague and sometimes long winded.

I like to read SELand. Keep in mind that most interviews / comments that come from Google are in the best interest of Google, not necessarily what actually works ;)
WG

The traffic business changed as B/W fell in price and more got into the game. No matter how good you are at getting Google to send you traffic, you have to have something people want to consume. Otherwise, they take a brief look at the content and move on.

The game today is about pleasing the consumer. The surfer is God.

I got a check from google once then they banned me

And wtf do you know about making money from the internet ?

Jesus.

The best quality product doesn't always make the most. I'd rather focus on the marketing and traffic with mediocre content than go upscale. It's all about the margins.
WG

At the moment we are focussing on free site. One of paid site also on Page 2 but we mostly care for free bcz free site is a traffic feeder to paid sites...


At one stage you said content is KING now you said mediocre content to go upscale... whats the point behind it...

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Fully agreed with Paul Markhan, you have to have something people want to consume. Otherwise, they take a brief look at the content and move on. We are producing our own content what Indians are liking but Google did'nt respect that....

Few months back one of our site was banned due to thin content, we have to send model release to google in reconsideration request to show them that this is our content and we are the copyright holder and they lift the penalty.....

Google is BIZ killer at the moment and giving their love to content stealers....

I believe I said good quality backlinks, not content.
WG

Hope trump victory as president of US put effect on Google and it will become porn lover with quality content

or alternatively

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...13_634x286.jpg

Been making a lot of it since 1998.

This isn't about the Internet, it's about marketing and selling. Relying on passing traffic is so yesterday it's unbelievable you still think knowing how to be a good webmaster works.

No matter how much traffic a site gets the trick is to convert it into $$$$. To do that you have to have a site that people want to view, then a product they want to buy on a site they want to buy from.

How well do Tubes convert? Even though they have massive traffic, most struggle to make money. Ads convert badly.

The rise of ad blockers proves people are not interested in seeing those ads. Let alone buying from them.

All the sites with high traffic are doing that on return traffic. Saying they do it without creating the content is a bullshit excuse. It doesn't matters, all that matters is the surfers. When you create a site for SE spiders, don't expect people to like it.

It's all about skills. If you can't create a site people like, go for something SE spiders like and get yourself downgraded by Google because the surfers don't like your sites.

It's pretty easy to outrank tubes. It's just not worth the effort :-(

Google is in the biz of making sure they satisfy surfers. Surfers prefer free content by a margin that's so wide I'm amazed I have to say it.

To combat that people have to go with what people demand and stop bitching and shouting at the clouds.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...45/813/484.png

Oh, how good that feels.

It has never been easier to produce quality content, assuming you have the skills. If you're a blogger convert to being a vlogger. Review sites using a video of a good looking girl or guy reviewing a site. Telling people the truth and use the text just to keep spiders noticing you. Then do all the webmaster stuff.

Do it right and the people will stop and look, then return. As I said only for those with talent to create content. Of course, a great way for sponsors to create killer content for the affiliates.

We have finally find out what is going on.... why site ranking has gone down... why people jealous in business... produce own content and do hard work instead of use illegal ways to kick others out

^^ I love that nationalistic Indians are pro-Trump :thumbsup ^^

Now onto Phase Two: take back the web. If "globalism" (jewishness) can be sufficiently demonized in the US and Europe, then Google, Facebook and the rest will lose much of their power and credibility.

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I left search engines when G arrived (well almost)....
Was sooo much fun when AltaVista/Infoseek/Lycos/Hotbot/Webcrawler was "da thing" lol...

Like someone said.
Don't put all your eggs into the same basket.

I miss the days of putting the same keyword 100X in the meta tags and you'd rank #1 on Altavista :)
WG

I miss the days when my Gay Porn Site was #1 on the SE's for straight Porn :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I think it's a one-sided crush on the part of Googlebot.

WG could make 1, maybe even 2 mistakes, and Googlebot would still love him unconditionally :upsidedow

Oh I've had my share of hate from GoogleBot as well, it's like a marriage :)
WG

"SEO" is barely a thing anymore. Google just sends a site a bit of traffic, looks at engagement metrics, and sends more if engagement is good.

So of course tubes and tube aggregators win. If you want to make money off google traffic you need the technical skills to compete with the top tubes and aggregators. If you could start a tubesite and just reupload all of xvideos to it and have a good search engine you would get tons of google traffic! Keep your overhead low and you'd make great money! Anyone could do it! But it would require technical skills that almost no one has.

You can't just be a content producer running a paysite and expect to get google traffic.

This is the way Google should work. Who remembers the time when Google would send traffic to sites that had nothing to offer? Maybe some of those now bitching about the loss of disgruntled surfers.


Absolute rubbish. Top priority has to be entertaining or informing surfers. Google hasn't stopped working for inept or lazy webmasters. Those webmasters have failed to adapt and some have died and the rest are dying.

This is 2016 where people like PewDiePie are making millions. There's a right-wing ranter who has a great following telling everyone Hillary will disarm everyone and other bullshit. So what do we do? Harold Stern has interviews with models we have radio interviews with webmasters. :Oh crap

We write text and bitch because no one reads it. You're like these.

http://cdn.lookanimals.com/pictures/...ndanim-001.jpgOn the endangered species list because you refuse to adapt.

You can't just be a webmaster running a site and expect to get google traffic. You can't just be a content producer running a paysite and expect to get google traffic. But you can. whether you can get enough traffic to interest viewers in buying what you're selling is the question.

If I was to film these comments and put them on Youtube, how much more traffic would I get?

If I was to get a pretty girl to talk to camera, how much more would she get?

The problem is too many of you rely on Google far too much for your traffic and far too little on satisfying the audience. As Google starts to penalise you to make for a better surfer (customer) experience. You will suffer.

Of course, my method takes real talent. so those who don't have it. Tell me I'm wrong and not that you're out of date.

I would have to say that for the most part things that were good in 2006 are now good again in 2016, only with small twists...

Massive inbound links are good again... But they have to come from good sources and follow a pace without deviating much. Change from 2006? Back then comment spam was a good link and you could add 1000's overnight to be #1 two weeks later.

Keep in mind I don't use any generated content other than user generated natural content or content written by humans.

I've also used my own PBN since Google shit on my 2006 network in 2009-2012.

so far at the moment i see that google is bringing high traffic sites to the top. so, you can have site with good so called seo, with good content, active posters, backlinks and so, but if someone is pushing more traffic into his new stupid site, google is giving the site a good serps, instead of the quality site. that is not so intelligent, because the shit will go up and will get even more traffic from google, and then it stays on top ... hope the algo will change very soon ... :2 cents:

But that high-quality site is retaining the traffic. And unlike 2006 if you can't retain traffic, you're not going to make much money.

The algo will be adapted to appeal to surfers more than sites. because it's surfers that make google rich. Good content for surfers is the key.

i have explained that wrong. i mean, site with less content have better serps because someone is feeding the site from other sites, bought traffic and so, and if you have traffic, then google is sending you higher than with quality content with less bought traffic ... and if you feed shitty site with shitty traffic, the shitty site is getting google traffic and it goes just up with google traffic from then. so far i see at the moment ... :2 cents:

I understood what you meant Teencat. You have to remember Paul gets more confused as time passes...

You may be right and I wonder if Google puts a lot of trust in sites like Alexa and SimilarWeb that rank sites by traffic?

I think you are mixing up context in traffic is king, content is queen as it pertains to SEO.

I am so glad they let paul markham into this place again. I mean, who else makes quality educating posts like his, revealing how to rank shit in google ;)

I see what you mean. The problem still remains as Google aims at ranking sites on how long the surfer stays.

My argument is relying on Google too much and retention too little is as outdated as Kodachrome. The future is about entertaining your audience enough to get them coming back.

So you think relying on Google for most of your traffic is more important than retaining traffic. Would that be advice for just you and others who have no skills to entertain and inform?

Or to everyone?

Look at all those top Alexa and SimilarWeb sites and tell us which ones use your method.

Paul I'm not going to get into an argument with you because it's like arguing with a brick wall. But this thread is about Google. I've no idea what it is you're babbling on about.

Agreed.

I'm saying content is king, Google traffic is a prince as it pertains to sales. Retained traffic is Queen.

No one should be relying on Google for their income. And saying Google is killing your business shows some are. Traffic that changes because of an algorithm or bounces too fast is a waste of time. Build a business that appeals to customers, then build it so outside forces like FB, Twitter, Tumblr, Google and Adblockers can't harm it.

Just quoting this for entertainment value :)
WG

:kisskiss Funny :winkwink:

Which is why you have to concentrate on getting new traffic and rely on Google.

Making a thread about Google and hoping to learn from it is futile because Google will change everything again.

So why do so many bitch, when Google change the way they rank sites and when they send traffic to a free site instead of theirs?

Could it be they still think it's 2006 and still relying on glorified link lists?

The thing about retained traffic is there are so many variables in Porn and sexual patterns with subscribers like guilt, spontaneity, relationship status, etc. Communication is huge but member retention isn't cut & dry.

I.E. A guy unsubscribes from the mailing list back cause he has a girlfriend, or the notification came up when he was on a date, and that email reminded him of his subscrption and he cancelled. 2 weeks later he's single and looking at porn but broke because he spent all his money on the girl.

I never sad t was easy. :1orglaugh

Doesn't mean it should be ignored.

No matter how many times you're told about something or get to look at it. Will you buy if it's not that good?

And as Google moves towards favoring sites that don't send the surfer straight back. Many here will lose out.

Your posts make Mondays great :)
WG

i thought the tubes were killing adult? now its googles fault?

Paul, what if SEO traffic is your bread and butter? And your site is a sales pitch. And people don't want a portal, they want a good deal... Then what?

:1orglaugh

with Paul it's everyone elses fault but his own

Yeah, that's why some ad spots are sold out for months in advance.

Idiot.

Welcome to my world :)
WG

What a negative asshole you are