I left search engines when G arrived (well almost)....
Was sooo much fun when AltaVista/Infoseek/Lycos/Hotbot/Webcrawler was "da thing" lol...

Like someone said.
Don't put all your eggs into the same basket.

I miss the days of putting the same keyword 100X in the meta tags and you'd rank #1 on Altavista :)
WG

I miss the days when my Gay Porn Site was #1 on the SE's for straight Porn :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I think it's a one-sided crush on the part of Googlebot.

WG could make 1, maybe even 2 mistakes, and Googlebot would still love him unconditionally :upsidedow

Oh I've had my share of hate from GoogleBot as well, it's like a marriage :)
WG

"SEO" is barely a thing anymore. Google just sends a site a bit of traffic, looks at engagement metrics, and sends more if engagement is good.

So of course tubes and tube aggregators win. If you want to make money off google traffic you need the technical skills to compete with the top tubes and aggregators. If you could start a tubesite and just reupload all of xvideos to it and have a good search engine you would get tons of google traffic! Keep your overhead low and you'd make great money! Anyone could do it! But it would require technical skills that almost no one has.

You can't just be a content producer running a paysite and expect to get google traffic.

This is the way Google should work. Who remembers the time when Google would send traffic to sites that had nothing to offer? Maybe some of those now bitching about the loss of disgruntled surfers.


Absolute rubbish. Top priority has to be entertaining or informing surfers. Google hasn't stopped working for inept or lazy webmasters. Those webmasters have failed to adapt and some have died and the rest are dying.

This is 2016 where people like PewDiePie are making millions. There's a right-wing ranter who has a great following telling everyone Hillary will disarm everyone and other bullshit. So what do we do? Harold Stern has interviews with models we have radio interviews with webmasters. :Oh crap

We write text and bitch because no one reads it. You're like these.

http://cdn.lookanimals.com/pictures/...ndanim-001.jpgOn the endangered species list because you refuse to adapt.

You can't just be a webmaster running a site and expect to get google traffic. You can't just be a content producer running a paysite and expect to get google traffic. But you can. whether you can get enough traffic to interest viewers in buying what you're selling is the question.

If I was to film these comments and put them on Youtube, how much more traffic would I get?

If I was to get a pretty girl to talk to camera, how much more would she get?

The problem is too many of you rely on Google far too much for your traffic and far too little on satisfying the audience. As Google starts to penalise you to make for a better surfer (customer) experience. You will suffer.

Of course, my method takes real talent. so those who don't have it. Tell me I'm wrong and not that you're out of date.

I would have to say that for the most part things that were good in 2006 are now good again in 2016, only with small twists...

Massive inbound links are good again... But they have to come from good sources and follow a pace without deviating much. Change from 2006? Back then comment spam was a good link and you could add 1000's overnight to be #1 two weeks later.

Keep in mind I don't use any generated content other than user generated natural content or content written by humans.

I've also used my own PBN since Google shit on my 2006 network in 2009-2012.

so far at the moment i see that google is bringing high traffic sites to the top. so, you can have site with good so called seo, with good content, active posters, backlinks and so, but if someone is pushing more traffic into his new stupid site, google is giving the site a good serps, instead of the quality site. that is not so intelligent, because the shit will go up and will get even more traffic from google, and then it stays on top ... hope the algo will change very soon ... :2 cents:

But that high-quality site is retaining the traffic. And unlike 2006 if you can't retain traffic, you're not going to make much money.

The algo will be adapted to appeal to surfers more than sites. because it's surfers that make google rich. Good content for surfers is the key.

i have explained that wrong. i mean, site with less content have better serps because someone is feeding the site from other sites, bought traffic and so, and if you have traffic, then google is sending you higher than with quality content with less bought traffic ... and if you feed shitty site with shitty traffic, the shitty site is getting google traffic and it goes just up with google traffic from then. so far i see at the moment ... :2 cents:

I understood what you meant Teencat. You have to remember Paul gets more confused as time passes...

You may be right and I wonder if Google puts a lot of trust in sites like Alexa and SimilarWeb that rank sites by traffic?

I think you are mixing up context in traffic is king, content is queen as it pertains to SEO.

I am so glad they let paul markham into this place again. I mean, who else makes quality educating posts like his, revealing how to rank shit in google ;)

I see what you mean. The problem still remains as Google aims at ranking sites on how long the surfer stays.

My argument is relying on Google too much and retention too little is as outdated as Kodachrome. The future is about entertaining your audience enough to get them coming back.

So you think relying on Google for most of your traffic is more important than retaining traffic. Would that be advice for just you and others who have no skills to entertain and inform?

Or to everyone?

Look at all those top Alexa and SimilarWeb sites and tell us which ones use your method.

Paul I'm not going to get into an argument with you because it's like arguing with a brick wall. But this thread is about Google. I've no idea what it is you're babbling on about.

Agreed.

I'm saying content is king, Google traffic is a prince as it pertains to sales. Retained traffic is Queen.

No one should be relying on Google for their income. And saying Google is killing your business shows some are. Traffic that changes because of an algorithm or bounces too fast is a waste of time. Build a business that appeals to customers, then build it so outside forces like FB, Twitter, Tumblr, Google and Adblockers can't harm it.

Just quoting this for entertainment value :)
WG

:kisskiss Funny :winkwink:

Which is why you have to concentrate on getting new traffic and rely on Google.

Making a thread about Google and hoping to learn from it is futile because Google will change everything again.

So why do so many bitch, when Google change the way they rank sites and when they send traffic to a free site instead of theirs?

Could it be they still think it's 2006 and still relying on glorified link lists?

The thing about retained traffic is there are so many variables in Porn and sexual patterns with subscribers like guilt, spontaneity, relationship status, etc. Communication is huge but member retention isn't cut & dry.

I.E. A guy unsubscribes from the mailing list back cause he has a girlfriend, or the notification came up when he was on a date, and that email reminded him of his subscrption and he cancelled. 2 weeks later he's single and looking at porn but broke because he spent all his money on the girl.

I never sad t was easy. :1orglaugh

Doesn't mean it should be ignored.

No matter how many times you're told about something or get to look at it. Will you buy if it's not that good?

And as Google moves towards favoring sites that don't send the surfer straight back. Many here will lose out.

Your posts make Mondays great :)
WG

i thought the tubes were killing adult? now its googles fault?

Paul, what if SEO traffic is your bread and butter? And your site is a sales pitch. And people don't want a portal, they want a good deal... Then what?

:1orglaugh

with Paul it's everyone elses fault but his own

Yeah, that's why some ad spots are sold out for months in advance.

Idiot.

Welcome to my world :)
WG

What a negative asshole you are

So always SEO?

Never trades, blogs/freesites with content for bookmarks, paid, gallery submissions etc...?

I do SEM as well and a few other media buys, but organic is the bread and butter.
WG

Good to know. So there's still good money to be made with SEO then.

:)

If SEO is your bread and butter then tell us what Google is going to do in future. What is your prediction?

he said he is making money with google, not that he is a google programmer :winkwink: if there exist any google programmer anyway ... :) have luck everyone :)

Anyone getting traffic from Yahoo?

I used to get a bunch but now mostly get it from Google and Bing.

It's surprising since Mozilla recently added Yahoo to be their default search engine when people open the browser up.

I get yahoo, but it's very little in comparison to Google.

How many successful sites have you built lately Paul?

90% of internet search traffic is from Google.. rest other different searcg engine distribute between them.

True ... but I was mainly thinking of my comparison between Bing and Yahoo. Lots of Bing traffic but very little yahoo, if any.