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flashfire 11-01-2016 10:51 AM
Why would you vote Trump without mentioning Hillary? What policies do you like? the

"make america great again" one
"build the wall and mexico will pay for it" (reimburse us someday lol)
"Massive tax breaks for the rich who already don't pay taxes" #smart

You guys are the ones with his ugly face in your avatars...speaking of fanboys

These candidates are both historically terrible...he has run a terrible campaign. With everything that has happened he is still not winning lol

ANYONE else from the primary would have this in the bag

romeo22 11-01-2016 10:52 AM
week to go.Cant wait :pimp

charlie g 11-01-2016 10:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by altmman (Post 21263311)
Or we'd rather give the keys to someone who knows what she's doing vs a guy who has no idea what he's doing and doesnt know how to drive this thing.
knows what she's doing...like the private email server or what the "c" means on documents. she has only showed proficiency in raising money and telling lies.

Bladewire 11-01-2016 10:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by romeo22 (Post 21263407)
week to go.Cant wait :pimp
You haven't voted yet? Why wait?

Rochard 11-01-2016 10:57 AM
I am voting for Hillary because she is the best of both candidates. With that said, if there was another Republican candidate I most likely would not be voting for her.

I'm tired of the political attacks. The Republican party is using the government and the US Justice system to attack Hillary Clinton. We had nine investigations into Benghazi, all of which came back as "no wrong doing". Now we have this email bullshit. The way she handled emails was common practice at the State Department, and we have former Republican Secrtaries of State that used the same set up yet we aren't investigating them. It's bullshit.



Quote:
Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21261901)
Name 1 good thing she's done without searching google for some unknown unimportant shit.
This is what I've been saying since day one. She has been in politics for thirty or forty years, yet no one can name a single thing Hillary has accomplished. Not one.

clickhappy 11-01-2016 11:01 AM
They both suck

Bladewire 11-01-2016 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21263428)
The Republican party is using the government and the US Justice system to attack Hillary Clinton. We had nine investigations into Benghazi, all of which came back as "no wrong doing". Now we have this email bullshit. The way she handled emails was common practice at the State Department, and we have former Republican Secrtaries of State that used the same set up yet we aren't investigating them. It's bullshit.
The Democrats sway public opinion to get what they want while the Republicans use the government process. This election cycle both sides have gone way above & beyond the norm though, insane.

rayadp05 11-01-2016 11:07 AM
Honestly, I'm not sure at this point exactly who I want to vote for.

C H R I S 11-01-2016 11:10 AM
Women's Right To choose
Marriage Equality
Supreme Court
Experience
Temperment
etc
etc
etc

Acepimp 11-01-2016 11:47 AM
Altmann makes some good points. She does a decent job of fooling people into thinking she's doing good. But if we look closer, SHE is the one starting conflicts, taking bribes, selling key positions, running an illegal server, deleting emails AFTER they were under subpoena, rigging debates, stealing the primaries from Bernie, arming terror groups, and lying about everything. Oh and it wasn't just Bill and Weiner who were flying to pedo island for some underage girls! :1orglaugh

Also this:
http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...M3WAAAlm_-.jpg

JFK 11-01-2016 11:49 AM
Fitty ........Questionable Votes :Graucho

JesseQuinn 11-01-2016 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21261946)
No. Not really. My only point is that people a fucking completely fed up with experienced politician bullshit. That is why half of this country has flocked to him. That was my point.
I get where you're coming from, and agree that Trump is a result (or less neutrally, a symptom) of larger legitimate issues, one of which is disdain and revulsion for the status quo where the same uber-privileged benefit regardless of whether the whitehouse goes blue or red.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21261946)
Personally I think Trump won't make for a very good president either. But I, like most Americans, am sick of the lies and bullshit. If that means electing Trump will be a step away from that shit, it's a step in the right direction.
I kinda agree with you. If so much wasn't at stake it would be kinda fun to see Washington in a panic if Trump was elected. All of their precious little power networks messed with? would be hella fucking entertaining.

Thing is though, Trump doesn't offer anything to remedy the issues that cause people to flock to him; he's the demolition candidate. Destruction can be necessary evil in furtherance of better, more constructive aims to follow, or it can be nihilism.

With Trump it is the latter. A Trump win won't resolve gerrymandering, it won't change the electoral college system. It won't bring back the middle class or decent-income working class jobs (another central foci amongst his base). He has no viable plan for any of this and his off the cuff opining in place of concrete, well-thought out plans would serve only to further stratify and fracture american society along class, citizenship and social race lines.

It also won't take the insanely high volumes of cash out of the nomination process, arguably one of the fundamental causes of all this.

For those who see appeal, not knocking you. I do see where you're coming from. To a point. either way I get an easy out as I don't have to vote.

I just honestly don't see the logic in electing a belligerent buffoon who, if he wins, will do so because of the money/media hype in the form of advertising dollaz for 24 hour news channels he brought to the table. aka the shit that helped get y'all here in the first place

Joshua G 11-01-2016 01:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flashfire (Post 21263404)

These candidates are both historically terrible...he has run a terrible campaign. With everything that has happened he is still not winning lol

ANYONE else from the primary would have this in the bag
he has run a terrible campaign? which candidate sat in bed for 20 days in october, letting the media & surrogates do all the campaigning?

oh PS in case you didnt know. its an angry electorate, not a happy one. mad ones dont vote for the flowers & lollipops candidate.

but you will stay blind & dumb until november 9. :1orglaugh

CourtneyR 11-01-2016 01:45 PM
Not voting for Hillary over here. My views fall more in line with the Green party.This will be the second time in a row Jill Stein gets my vote.

JesseQuinn 11-01-2016 02:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN (Post 21264037)
Not voting for Hillary over here. My views fall more in line with the Green party.This will be the second time in a row Jill Stein gets my vote.
^^^preach

As a Canadian always back NDP over Green because the CA Greens are enviro-focused at the expense of people. can't wrap my head around that platform, my 'environment' includes fellow human beings, the welfare of whom also concerns me.

in contrast, US/Stein's Green is far more progressive on the human socio-econ tip. I would so cast an enthusiastic vote for her, if she had a chance in hell of winning

I wouldn't make the same choice as you, in this election, knowing that she won't win. So fucking respect you for your choice though

Coup 11-01-2016 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 21263701)
I get where you're coming from, and agree that Trump is a result (or less neutrally, a symptom) of larger legitimate issues, one of which is disdain and revulsion for the status quo where the same uber-privileged benefit regardless of whether the whitehouse goes blue or red.



I kinda agree with you. If so much wasn't at stake it would be kinda fun to see Washington in a panic if Trump was elected. All of their precious little power networks messed with? would be hella fucking entertaining.

Thing is though, Trump doesn't offer anything to remedy the issues that cause people to flock to him; he's the demolition candidate. Destruction can be necessary evil in furtherance of better, more constructive aims to follow, or it can be nihilism.

With Trump it is the latter. A Trump win won't resolve gerrymandering, it won't change the electoral college system. It won't bring back the middle class or decent-income working class jobs (another central foci amongst his base). He has no viable plan for any of this and his off the cuff opining in place of concrete, well-thought out plans would serve only to further stratify and fracture american society along class, citizenship and social race lines.

It also won't take the insanely high volumes of cash out of the nomination process, arguably one of the fundamental causes of all this.

For those who see appeal, not knocking you. I do see where you're coming from. To a point. either way I get an easy out as I don't have to vote.

I just honestly don't see the logic in electing a belligerent buffoon who, if he wins, will do so because of the money/media hype in the form of advertising dollaz for 24 hour news channels he brought to the table. aka the shit that helped get y'all here in the first place
Ultimately, it is my hope to see the Democrat party unfuck itself within my lifetime. I'd like to see it be cleansed of the donna brazile's, the huma abedin's, tim kaines and hillary clintons along with all of their tired old sold out and corrupt ways. The only way I see that happening is if they suffer a devastating loss to someone as shitty as Trump. Allowing Hillary to take the win guarantees they won't even do at least a little bit of soul-searching.
I'd like to see it move in more of a Bernie Sanders, jill stein sort of direction... not just pay lip service to it.

If Trump wins I don't think he will fix much, But the Democrats may fix themselves.

NatalieK 11-01-2016 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN (Post 21264037)
Not voting for Hillary over here. My views fall more in line with the Green party.This will be the second time in a row Jill Stein gets my vote.
the problem is, the green party aren't going to win. So your vote will be wasted.

If you want Trump as a role model for your country, continue to vote for who you decide. If not, realize Hillary does care for the people, elderly & youth. Paying her contributions & not demeaning women or people :2 cents:

Coup 11-01-2016 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21264319)
the problem is, the green party aren't going to win. So your vote will be wasted.
A vote that was cast is never one that was wasted. IMO. I admire people that stick by their convictions... even in the face of hysteria.

CourtneyR 11-01-2016 03:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21264319)
the problem is, the green party aren't going to win. So your vote will be wasted.

If you want Trump as a role model for your country, continue to vote for who you decide. If not, realize Hillary does care for the people, elderly & youth. Paying her contributions & not demeaning women or people :2 cents:
I know she will not win, but it is my vote. I am choosing to vote for who my views align with. This is the first year where the green party will be on enough ballots to mathematically win, that is a big step in the right direction.

CourtneyR 11-01-2016 03:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21264325)
A vote that was cast is never one that was wasted. IMO. I admire people that stick by their convictions... even in the face of hysteria.
Thank you... kind of. :P

JesseQuinn 11-01-2016 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21264319)
the problem is, the green party aren't going to win. So your vote will be wasted.
in the current state of affairs, agreed. see equal merit in Courtney's strategy as well though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21264319)
Hillary does care for the people, elderly & youth. Paying her contributions & not demeaning women or people :2 cents:
the fuck? no, she does not. she is very good at pretending to be socially progressive when need be publicly, her entire CV of public conduct runs contrary. HRC and Trump are very alike in that regard, spewing hypocrisy where needed, diametrically opposed to their public and private actions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21264325)
A vote that was cast is never one that was wasted. IMO. I admire people that stick by their convictions... even in the face of hysteria.
I do as well. would caution against choosing against people in furtherance of a cause meant to support them though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN (Post 21264481)
I know she will not win, but it is my vote. I am choosing to vote for who my views align with. This is the first year where the green party will be on enough ballots to mathematically win, that is a big step in the right direction.
:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

whatever happens, good luck y'all

Bladewire 11-01-2016 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21264184)
Ultimately, it is my hope to see the Democrat party unfuck itself within my lifetime. I'd like to see it be cleansed of the donna brazile's, the huma abedin's, tim kaines and hillary clintons along with all of their tired old sold out and corrupt ways. The only way I see that happening is if they suffer a devastating loss to someone as shitty as Trump. Allowing Hillary to take the win guarantees they won't even do at least a little bit of soul-searching.
I'd like to see it move in more of a Bernie Sanders, jill stein sort of direction... not just pay lip service to it.

If Trump wins I don't think he will fix much, But the Democrats may fix themselves.
Sanders is way to far left though don't you think?

ianmoone332000 11-01-2016 04:02 PM
You guys have got 2 bad candidates this time though i would vote for Trump. Rather have a clown than the devil

Coup 11-01-2016 04:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21264517)
Sanders is way to far left though don't you think?
Not at all. Too far left is like "black-bloc" anarchism or Maoism-third worldism imo

NatalieK 11-01-2016 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21264325)
A vote that was cast is never one that was wasted. IMO. I admire people that stick by their convictions... even in the face of hysteria.
:thumbsup

Quote:
Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN (Post 21264481)
I know she will not win, but it is my vote. I am choosing to vote for who my views align with. This is the first year where the green party will be on enough ballots to mathematically win, that is a big step in the right direction.
I disagree, I think she will be the new president, or at least hope.

However, agreeing with your thoughts regarding the green party and the ability to have a possible win, follow your heart, well played to you :thumbsup

NatalieK 11-01-2016 04:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 21264514)
in the current state of affairs, agreed. see equal merit in Courtney's strategy as well though.
absolutely true, hence my comment above agreeing with Courtney. I say, good luck to the green party & all who vote for them. Pleased you understood my point though. Thank you.

Bladewire 11-01-2016 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 21264547)
You guys have got 2 bad candidates this time though i would vote for Trump. Rather have a clown than the devil
Yeah but you don't live here. You can sin living with the devil, clowns are just downright fucking scary!


Paul Markham 11-01-2016 11:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by altmman (Post 21263311)
Or we'd rather give the keys to someone who knows what she's doing vs a guy who has no idea what he's doing and doesnt know how to drive this thing.
She knows what she's doing. Fucking Americans, she's been part of the system that's been dedicated to it for decades.

And she will make sure nothing changes.

badgirlfilms 11-02-2016 02:10 AM
hillary will kill your dumb ass

Jel 11-02-2016 02:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 21263701)
I get where you're coming from, and agree that Trump is a result (or less neutrally, a symptom) of larger legitimate issues, one of which is disdain and revulsion for the status quo where the same uber-privileged benefit regardless of whether the whitehouse goes blue or red.



I kinda agree with you. If so much wasn't at stake it would be kinda fun to see Washington in a panic if Trump was elected. All of their precious little power networks messed with? would be hella fucking entertaining.

Thing is though, Trump doesn't offer anything to remedy the issues that cause people to flock to him; he's the demolition candidate. Destruction can be necessary evil in furtherance of better, more constructive aims to follow, or it can be nihilism.

With Trump it is the latter. A Trump win won't resolve gerrymandering, it won't change the electoral college system. It won't bring back the middle class or decent-income working class jobs (another central foci amongst his base). He has no viable plan for any of this and his off the cuff opining in place of concrete, well-thought out plans would serve only to further stratify and fracture american society along class, citizenship and social race lines.

It also won't take the insanely high volumes of cash out of the nomination process, arguably one of the fundamental causes of all this.

For those who see appeal, not knocking you. I do see where you're coming from. To a point. either way I get an easy out as I don't have to vote.

I just honestly don't see the logic in electing a belligerent buffoon who, if he wins, will do so because of the money/media hype in the form of advertising dollaz for 24 hour news channels he brought to the table. aka the shit that helped get y'all here in the first place
Love your posts every time I see them :thumbsup 90% agree with most of the above, and like you have just said, see where you're coming from even if I think there *is* logic in electing trump. You should post more, just to make visiting here a bit easier for me :winkwink:

Jel 11-02-2016 02:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coup (Post 21264325)
A vote that was cast is never one that was wasted. IMO. I admire people that stick by their convictions... even in the face of hysteria.
+1 :thumbsup

I'd sooner vote for someone I believed in than this horseshit about wasted votes... even if my 'wasted' vote this time round means momentum gathers for that party to have a real chance 50 years from now. Could never, ever, vote for the 'lesser of two evils' - to me that's like being asked by a copper who has arrested/tried/convicted me of a crime I didn't commit, whether I want a punch in the mouth or a kick in the bollocks. No way am I taking part in that :2 cents: Haven't voted in a general election since I was 20, and highly doubt that will change before I die. I have HUGE respect for those that vote with their conviction.

nico-t 11-02-2016 03:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by C H R I S (Post 21263491)
Women's Right To choose
Marriage Equality
Supreme Court
Experience
Temperment
etc
etc
etc
Wow, a 1 on 1 copy from their propaganda, what a coincidence :1orglaugh

Seriously, temperament? Never heard about that in an election until the Clinton camp decided to use that term... and you have that in your head now. Great example of the power of brainwashing to the weak minded :thumbsup

nico-t 11-02-2016 03:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21263425)
You haven't voted yet? Why wait?
who did you vote for?

suesheboy 11-02-2016 03:18 AM
Every policy she has is what I believe in.

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