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Shap 11-22-2016 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21320674)
Awesome! Hard work & madening at times but well worth it :thumbsup

It's a huge battle no doubt.

Bladewire 11-22-2016 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 21320083)
Always had weekly new updates...

Nothing "BUT"... completely irrelevant question... I'm not selling I allready sold...

Feels good doesn't it? But after a while you want to start up again, like Shap, it's in your blood :thumbsup

Shap 11-22-2016 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21322582)
Feels good doesn't it? But after a while you want to start up again, like Shap, it's in your blood :thumbsup

:thumbsup

Porn is an interesting one for me. I know most people in my situation would flee and expect me to flee as well. I'm always drawn back to it. I know socially it brings no status which is a shame. But on the upside I know the market well. I know the people in the space well. I have a ton of friends here. I'm not ashamed to say I like porn and like the porn industry. It's also always been a fun space imo.

Google Expert 11-22-2016 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 21322717)
But on the upside I know the market well. I know the people in the space well.

That's 90% of success right there.

Getting a porn business off the ground is all about who you know.

It's possible to succeed on your own, but it's amazing how much easier it is when you know the right people.

The Porn Nerd 11-22-2016 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 21322717)
:thumbsup

Porn is an interesting one for me. I know most people in my situation would flee and expect me to flee as well. I'm always drawn back to it. I know socially it brings no status which is a shame. But on the upside I know the market well. I know the people in the space well. I have a ton of friends here. I'm not ashamed to say I like porn and like the porn industry. It's also always been a fun space imo.

Well I must say, with all your offers of consultation in the past, THIS is really the best way for you to stay in the game you clearly enjoy. Once you have been an owner it's hard to consult with someone who may or may not take your advice. If you're The Boss then it gets done! :)

Bump for Shap finding the right deal.

Struggle4Bucks 11-22-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21321454)
As someone who sold did you get more than you could have got by allowing the site to keep going on auto-pilot and making a lot more profit each month. Or needed the lump sum and sold for someone else to run it down?

I don't know... I have never run a site on auto-pilot:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21322582)
Feels good doesn't it? But after a while you want to start up again, like Shap, it's in your blood :thumbsup

Stop it... I thought I was out... :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21322732)
That's 90% of success right there.

Getting a porn business off the ground is all about who you know.

It's possible to succeed on your own, but it's amazing how much easier it is when you know the right people.

I think in Porn it matters less than anywhere else (wallstreet, politics, public positions, multinationals, etc) who you know. I mean... I don't need to know the right people to buy a cms; hire a crew and location, models; set up tube accounts; integrate affiliate software; etc...

How would knowing the right people lead to that succes? (serious question) People do business based on mutual benefits (conversions, ctr, etc) and if needed you can always hire expertise...

mineistaken 11-22-2016 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21322732)
That's 90% of success right there.

Getting a porn business off the ground is all about who you know.

It's possible to succeed on your own, but it's amazing how much easier it is when you know the right people.

Elaborate what are the most important benefits of knowing people? Link/traffic trades? What else?
Edit: just saw struggle already asked the exact same question.

Paul Markham 11-23-2016 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 21323413)
I don't know... I have never run a site on auto- pilot:1orglaugh

Can only speak personally on this. The biggest and most expensive job we had was producing content. Stop producing and costs and work plummet. Looking after affiliates who were trouble was dropped, they rarely bought in enough to make a profit. The CMS worked perfectly and other than making sure the server was online. We had little else to do.

Customer complaints were almost zero.

In the first 12 months, our income stayed at 80% of the previous year. Our outgoing were just the servers. Our profits went through the roof. This carried on till 2006 when we shut it all down.

If a site needs constant attention, besides updating with new content, my idea won't work.

Paul Markham 11-23-2016 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21322732)
That's 90% of success right there.

Getting a porn business off the ground is all about who you know.

It's possible to succeed on your own, but it's amazing how much easier it is when you know the right people.

Knowing the right people means nothing. The right people are known by everyone, they have the pick of other people to deal with, they're the right people because they choose the best deals that make them money. The right people are always ruled by the bottom line, not by someone knowing them.

And making money in porn is all about having the right product that sells to the people no one knows. The customers.

This isn't the boy scouts.

johnnyloadproductions 11-23-2016 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21324328)
Knowing the right people means nothing. The right people are known by everyone, they have the pick of other people to deal with, they're the right people because they choose the best deals that make them money. The right people are always ruled by the bottom line, not by someone knowing them.

And making money in porn is all about having the right product that sells to the people no one knows. The customers.

This isn't the boy scouts.

:eyecrazy:eyecrazy:eyecrazy:eyecrazy:eyecrazy :eyecrazy

MetaformX 11-23-2016 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21324319)
Can only speak personally on this. The biggest and most expensive job we had was producing content. Stop producing and costs and work plummet. Looking after affiliates who were trouble cause I know it better was dropped, they rarely bought in enough to make a profit since my product wasn't that good. The CMS worked perfectly and other than making sure the server was online. We had little else to do besides me doing jigsaws and walking the dog and Eva being a cleaning lady full time.

Customer complaints were almost zero since we had zero.

In the first 12 months, our income stayed at 80% of the previous year at a staggering $360. Our outgoing were just the servers ($10/month cause we didn't burn any bw). Our profits went through the roof generating a ridiculous $28 a month!!! This carried on till 2006 when we shut it all down cause there were no members anyways.

I rock

fixed it for you :2 cents:

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Paul Markham 11-23-2016 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21323788)
Elaborate what are the most important benefits of knowing people? Link/traffic trades? What else?
Edit: just saw struggle already asked the exact same question.

He can't elaborate.

cocksucker mcgee 11-23-2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21325270)
He can't elaborate.

and you can't afford server and to having stuff on modellingcentro GREAT SUCCESS!

JayAllan 11-23-2016 12:59 PM

Shap,

Just pick up DigitalDesire from Lani. I am confident she would sell for a reasonable price. I know it does not fit your criteria because it is on a decline. However, it is only on the decline because it is mismanaged. If the production went back to high end it could be grown quite easily. I happen to know just who can do that. ;)

The site has a great Brand already and is exactly the niche that does really well in this current market if the quality were at a BLACKED/TUSHY/VIXEN level or higher - which it could easily be. :2 cents:

Major (Tom) 11-23-2016 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 21308059)
so true, the only time they would sell is if they found a sucker to overpay what the business is really worth... :thumbsup

Not true. I'd dump it for an even million even though we process much more than that annualy. Someone would need that up front. No payment plans. After 13 years of dealing with people who have sex for a living I''m spent. I want to start a micro brewery.
Ds

robwod 11-23-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JayAllan (Post 21325777)
Shap,

Just pick up DigitalDesire from Lani. I am confident she would sell for a reasonable price. I know it does not fit your criteria because it is on a decline. However, it is only on the decline because it is mismanaged. If the production went back to high end it could be grown quite easily. I happen to know just who can do that. ;)

The site has a great Brand already and is exactly the niche that does really well in this current market if the quality were at a BLACKED/TUSHY/VIXEN level or higher - which it could easily be. :2 cents:

I like this idea too. DDG still converts.

The Porn Nerd 11-23-2016 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21325855)
Not true. I'd dump it for an even million even though we process much more than that annualy. Someone would need that up front. No payment plans. After 13 years of dealing with people who have sex for a living I''m spent. I want to start a micro brewery.
Ds

Duke's Brewskis! :thumbsup

Paul Markham 11-24-2016 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cocksucker mcgee (Post 21325708)
and you can't afford server and to having stuff on modellingcentro GREAT SUCCESS!

If the industry was as good as 2008, we would be back shooting running the content stores and making the money we made then. As you say it's hardly worth it today.

Shap 11-24-2016 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 21325903)
Duke's Brewskis! :thumbsup

Love that :)

Shap 11-24-2016 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21325855)
Not true. I'd dump it for an even million even though we process much more than that annualy. Someone would need that up front. No payment plans. After 13 years of dealing with people who have sex for a living I''m spent. I want to start a micro brewery.
Ds

Duke exactly how I felt when I sold. Needed a break.

Relentless 11-24-2016 06:27 AM

Shap running facialabuse.com???
(He did say any niche) :)

Major (Tom) 11-24-2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 21327523)
Duke exactly how I felt when I sold. Needed a break.

I'd quit but the money is just too damn good. I'm looking to aquire or sell. I haven't decided. I love my company. I've bled for it, but now I have everyone doing everything for me and that''s tough because i literally do nothing but hobbies 4.5 days a week. But I still have my pride in the game if that nakes sense

Major (Tom) 11-24-2016 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 21327949)
Shap running facialabuse.com???
(He did say any niche) :)

Well if anyone could shap could. I like being a periah. Shap has the accuem and tact. My new jersey state of mind nullifies my tact

Bladewire 11-24-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 21327949)
Shap running facialabuse.com???
(He did say any niche) :)

I LOVE that content :thumbsup

PornDiscounts-V 11-24-2016 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21310156)
there are porn sites that make 20K a month? in this pirate saturated world?

why is there so much crying here about no money in porn?

:1orglaugh

Because you actually have to work and make a quality product. Gone are the days of shitty fhgs making you $5000 per month.

There are 100's of affiliate webmasters messaging over $20k per month. They don't talk much because they are working.

flashfire 11-24-2016 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21310156)
there are porn sites that make 20K a month? in this pirate saturated world?

why is there so much crying here about no money in porn?

:1orglaugh

because this site has become 99% surfers and trolls

Bladewire 11-24-2016 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by flashfire (Post 21328942)
because this site has become 99% surfers and trolls

^^ qft ^^

MaDalton 11-24-2016 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by flashfire (Post 21328942)
because this site has become 99% surfers and trolls

:2 cents:

Shap 11-24-2016 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21328624)
I'd quit but the money is just too damn good. I'm looking to aquire or sell. I haven't decided. I love my company. I've bled for it, but now I have everyone doing everything for me and that''s tough because i literally do nothing but hobbies 4.5 days a week. But I still have my pride in the game if that nakes sense


Absolutely I know what you mean. :thumbsup

Google Expert 11-24-2016 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21328624)
I'd quit but the money is just too damn good. I'm looking to aquire or sell. I haven't decided. I love my company. I've bled for it, but now I have everyone doing everything for me and that''s tough because i literally do nothing but hobbies 4.5 days a week. But I still have my pride in the game if that nakes sense

The grass always seems greener on the other side.

At time like these, you should imagine making fries 8 hours a day for $9/hr (or worse)

cams2chat 11-24-2016 03:40 PM

Looking to buy
 
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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21328624)
I'd quit but the money is just too damn good. I'm looking to aquire or sell. I haven't decided. I love my company. I've bled for it, but now I have everyone doing everything for me and that''s tough because i literally do nothing but hobbies 4.5 days a week. But I still have my pride in the game if that nakes sense

I have reached same point but looking to acquire. If your serious about selling contact me at peter#asiancammodels.com

If numbers stack up the million is no problem.

The Ghost 11-24-2016 03:46 PM

20k? Anyone ask yet if this was net or gross? We've grown consistently for 10 years so not thinking to sell.


BTW I love Shap threads :)

Shap 11-24-2016 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 21329278)
20k? Anyone ask yet if this was net or gross? We've grown consistently for 10 years so not thinking to sell.


BTW I love Shap threads :)

Thanks :thumbsup

cams2chat 11-24-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 21329278)
20k? Anyone ask yet if this was net or gross? We've grown consistently for 10 years so not thinking to sell.


BTW I love Shap threads :)

If you decide to sell let me know. Would be a good fit

Shap 11-24-2016 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 21329278)
20k? Anyone ask yet if this was net or gross? We've grown consistently for 10 years so not thinking to sell.


BTW I love Shap threads :)

Want some help :winkwink:

amateurcanada 11-24-2016 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21321454)
Sorry missed the sold bit in your signature.

As someone who sold did you get more than you could have got by allowing the site to keep going on auto-pilot and making a lot more profit each month. Or needed the lump sum and sold for someone else to run it down?

All but a few sites are taking less every month. No matter how hard someone works a site it will take less than it did the previous year. Which is why so many affiliates are moving away from selling memberships to selling cams, dating or something else.

There are huge opportunities for people with money to buy sites and run them down over a period of years. They can just do nothing which I could afford to, or do their own promotional work even with some outsourcing.

For site owners who are running out of money or need money to sink into another project.

paul-markham.market.adultcentro.com/#content_cp=1&content_rpp=24&content_sort=publishD ate.publishDate%2Fdesc Still making money after 8 years sitting on the sofa. Nice cherry on top of the pensions.

Well said.


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