^^ my straight stalker ^^

I agree

That doesn't mean that all content is valuable and/or will stay valuable. Buy a companies library now and probably half of it is SD. I really don't see much value in SD content. I personally wouldn't even use it as filler anymore...

Mainstream content is different from most adult content. I enjoy listening to 70s music or older movies but look at a 70s pornmovie... uhm... you must be into some vintage indeed.

A top quality digitally shot adult movie looks like crap in 10 years from now if you see how fast technology develops...

Most content can be found at the tubes; filesharers, etc... You can literally watch content package prices drop here on gfy as the months pass by. I think Paul sells his content package for $500 now... etc... (or is it $5 bucks allready?)

If you want to pay 3x annual you really must ask yourself: why not start from scratch shooting content? It's way more cheaper and thus less risky;) Anyone with extent previous experience and succes in running paysites should be able to bring a new product to 20k revenue monthly within months...

I agree and I'm surprised more people don't do it, it's not like the content investment is astronomical or anything.

20K revenue or profit? When calculating multiples, it's based on the profits, at least from what I've seen so far.

So you make lots of money with old content. Join the club.

BUT, are you in the club that Shap wants to speak to?

The days of making 300% profit per month on a site. Were 4/21/2001 and 6/15/2001 :1orglaugh

It's easy to prove me wrong. Show your site and how it makes money without spending a lot on traffic and content.

OR STFU!!!

Here's advice from someone who knows something about this.

We stopped working in January 2008 and shut down all expenses by 2009, except processing and affiliates. From 2008 through to 2014? We made obscene profits. It was simple, we stopped spending out and kept taking in. Revenue declined profits rose doubling, trebling, quadrupling, etc.

If a person wants out why sell a business for 6 months turnover when they can stop spending money and take 12+ months turnover at 90% profit? What work is there that needs to be done that can't be done in a few hours a day? If there are no updates and pestering affiliates with little or no sales are told to go take a hike?

OK a programmer to make sure it runs and someone to answer emails.

This is how some here make a living and make the owner money with a 50/50 split. We never took those offers because we made more with me looking after the sites.

Wow Paul can write something that actually makes sense once per 1000 posts!

You forgot to mention the same year.

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Anything else?

I am not looking ... I will wait until somebody makes me an offer or do it like Paul ( commented below) i will just sit and collect from my library...:thumbsup

You are trying to convince a fox to wait for the farmer to sell it a chicken.... You cannot be mad at them, they believe that stealing is their birth right...a delusion but a fact.

I also do protect our content vigorously and in general have cut the piracy down by about 90 %.....:thumbsup

you proving you wrong all day

Always had weekly new updates...

Nothing "BUT"... completely irrelevant question... I'm not selling I allready sold...

Bump for Shap finding the right situation to get back in the game.

Awesome! Hard work & madening at times but well worth it :thumbsup

To make sense you have to show how I'm wrong.

As an affiliate, my idea of running a site down could hurt your income. But it still makes more money for the owner than selling for a few months turnover.

No nothing else. Besides a few screen grabs, what are your qualifications?

Then it would be easy to tell everyone why I'm wrong.

you cannot proving a negatives.

but although, you working's at 40 year's in biz and make cash to get €18,000 cottage in east europe and live on pension's. GREAT SUCCESS!!!

Sorry missed the sold bit in your signature.

As someone who sold did you get more than you could have got by allowing the site to keep going on auto-pilot and making a lot more profit each month. Or needed the lump sum and sold for someone else to run it down?

All but a few sites are taking less every month. No matter how hard someone works a site it will take less than it did the previous year. Which is why so many affiliates are moving away from selling memberships to selling cams, dating or something else.

There are huge opportunities for people with money to buy sites and run them down over a period of years. They can just do nothing which I could afford to, or do their own promotional work even with some outsourcing.

For site owners who are running out of money or need money to sink into another project.

paul-markham.market.adultcentro.com/#content_cp=1&content_rpp=24&content_sort=publishD ate.publishDate%2Fdesc Still making money after 8 years sitting on the sofa. Nice cherry on top of the pensions.

It's a huge battle no doubt.

Feels good doesn't it? But after a while you want to start up again, like Shap, it's in your blood :thumbsup

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Porn is an interesting one for me. I know most people in my situation would flee and expect me to flee as well. I'm always drawn back to it. I know socially it brings no status which is a shame. But on the upside I know the market well. I know the people in the space well. I have a ton of friends here. I'm not ashamed to say I like porn and like the porn industry. It's also always been a fun space imo.

That's 90% of success right there.

Getting a porn business off the ground is all about who you know.

It's possible to succeed on your own, but it's amazing how much easier it is when you know the right people.

Well I must say, with all your offers of consultation in the past, THIS is really the best way for you to stay in the game you clearly enjoy. Once you have been an owner it's hard to consult with someone who may or may not take your advice. If you're The Boss then it gets done! :)

Bump for Shap finding the right deal.

I don't know... I have never run a site on auto-pilot:1orglaugh

Stop it... I thought I was out... :1orglaugh

I think in Porn it matters less than anywhere else (wallstreet, politics, public positions, multinationals, etc) who you know. I mean... I don't need to know the right people to buy a cms; hire a crew and location, models; set up tube accounts; integrate affiliate software; etc...

How would knowing the right people lead to that succes? (serious question) People do business based on mutual benefits (conversions, ctr, etc) and if needed you can always hire expertise...

Elaborate what are the most important benefits of knowing people? Link/traffic trades? What else?
Edit: just saw struggle already asked the exact same question.

Can only speak personally on this. The biggest and most expensive job we had was producing content. Stop producing and costs and work plummet. Looking after affiliates who were trouble was dropped, they rarely bought in enough to make a profit. The CMS worked perfectly and other than making sure the server was online. We had little else to do.

Customer complaints were almost zero.

In the first 12 months, our income stayed at 80% of the previous year. Our outgoing were just the servers. Our profits went through the roof. This carried on till 2006 when we shut it all down.

If a site needs constant attention, besides updating with new content, my idea won't work.

Knowing the right people means nothing. The right people are known by everyone, they have the pick of other people to deal with, they're the right people because they choose the best deals that make them money. The right people are always ruled by the bottom line, not by someone knowing them.

And making money in porn is all about having the right product that sells to the people no one knows. The customers.

This isn't the boy scouts.

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fixed it for you :2 cents:

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He can't elaborate.

and you can't afford server and to having stuff on modellingcentro GREAT SUCCESS!

Shap,

Just pick up DigitalDesire from Lani. I am confident she would sell for a reasonable price. I know it does not fit your criteria because it is on a decline. However, it is only on the decline because it is mismanaged. If the production went back to high end it could be grown quite easily. I happen to know just who can do that. ;)

The site has a great Brand already and is exactly the niche that does really well in this current market if the quality were at a BLACKED/TUSHY/VIXEN level or higher - which it could easily be. :2 cents:

Not true. I'd dump it for an even million even though we process much more than that annualy. Someone would need that up front. No payment plans. After 13 years of dealing with people who have sex for a living I''m spent. I want to start a micro brewery.
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I like this idea too. DDG still converts.

Duke's Brewskis! :thumbsup

If the industry was as good as 2008, we would be back shooting running the content stores and making the money we made then. As you say it's hardly worth it today.

Love that :)