You can't have almost 3,000 more votes than ballots cast. Do you understand?

I.E. it's like 3,000 more people getting into a football game without a ticket.

https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to...0ba#.mtewofpft


In a remarkable turn of events, the Green Party?s Jill Stein just raised over a $2 million dollars since 3pm today alone to recount the vote in the three crucial swing states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Yesterday, reports indicated that a widely respected University of Michigan computer scientist raised issues about electronic voting machine tallies.

The Stein/Baraka Green Party Campaign is launching an effort to ensure the integrity of our elections. With your help, we are raising money to demand recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania?three states where the data suggests a significant need to verify machine-counted vote totals.

University of Michigan Professor Alex Haldeman explained his reasoning late last night in a blog post, and the Green Party just agreed with him, leading to Americans all across the country contributing over $2 million dollars to the cause in just a half day.

Further reports of voting irregularity have surfaced. Independently, a University of Florida Professor in Gainesville ? who specializes in American elections ? found what appears to be a major tabulation error in a Wisconsin vote count.

As of this time, Donald Trump holds a projected 37 vote advantage in the Electoral College. Hillary Clinton?s national popular vote advantage stands above 2 million votes according to USA Today. Federal law mandates that all electors be chosen by December 13th, in advance of the Electoral College votes in the 50 state capitals who will directly select the President on December 19th.

In an election year filled with unimaginable twists and turns, it?s looking like America is going to wake up for Black Friday to news of a recount by Jill Stein?s Green Party in the three key swing states whose votes are decisive in this year?s electoral college vote

Because a Republic candidate would of course never demand a recount after losing?

Republican Pat McCrory Requests Recount In North Carolina Governor's Race : NPR

In Trumps own words he claimed the system was rigged.. maybe he knew something..

That's not the total who voted. If you notice the next line it says "ballots cast blank .04%" meaning .04% were blank ballots. Where is the registered voter count and percentage? Why isn't there a percentage next to "ballots cast total" which BTW likely means complete ballot.

Below is part of the scientists blog post that started the recount movement. The full blog post is here https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to...0ba#.mtewofpft



The only way to know whether a cyberattack changed the result is to closely examine the available physical evidence ? paper ballots and voting equipment in critical states like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, nobody is ever going to examine that evidence unless candidates in those states act now, in the next several days, to petition for recounts.

Want to Know if the Election was Hacked? Look at the Ballots

You may have read at NYMag that I?ve been in discussions with the Clinton campaign about whether it might wish to seek recounts in critical states. That article, which includes somebody else?s description of my views, incorrectly describes the reasons manually checking ballots is an essential security safeguard (and includes some incorrect numbers, to boot). Let me set the record straight about what I and other leading election security experts have actually been saying to the campaign and everyone else who?s willing to listen.

How might a foreign government hack America?s voting machines to change the outcome of a presidential election? Here?s one possible scenario. First, the attackers would probe election offices well in advance in order to find ways to break into their computers. Closer to the election, when it was clear from polling data which states would have close electoral margins, the attackers might spread malware into voting machines in some of these states, rigging the machines to shift a few percent of the vote to favor their desired candidate. This malware would likely be designed to remain inactive during pre-election tests, do its dirty business during the election, then erase itself when the polls close. A skilled attacker?s work might leave no visible signs ? though the country might be surprised when results in several close states were off from pre-election polls.

Could anyone be brazen enough to try such an attack? A few years ago, I might have said that sounds like science fiction, but 2016 has seen unprecedented cyberattacks aimed at interfering with the election. This summer, attackers broke into the email system of the Democratic National Committee and, separately, into the email account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton?s campaign chairman, and leaked private messages. Attackers infiltrated the voter registration systems of two states, Illinois and Arizona, and stole voter data. And there?s evidence that hackers attempted to breach election offices in several other states.

In all these cases, Federal agencies publicly asserted that senior officials in the Russian government commissioned these attacks. Russia has sophisticated cyber-offensive capabilities, and has shown a willingness to use them to hack elections. In 2014, during the presidential election in Ukraine, attackers linked to Russia sabotaged the country?s vote-counting infrastructure and, according to published reports, Ukrainian officials succeeded only at the last minute in defusing vote-stealing malware that was primed to cause the wrong winner to be announced. Russia is not the only country with the ability to pull off such an attack on American systems ? most of the world?s military powers now have sophisticated cyberwarfare capabilities.

Wouldn't it then say Complete Ballots or Full Ballots?

To me when it says Ballots Total that means the total ballots cast, not just those that were 100% filled out.

Pretty sure everyone has to be a registered voter so where's that count and percentage? And again where is the "Ballots cast - Total" percentage. Either way this "evidence" has been doctored.

I guess we are going to find out. The fund is up to $2.25 million so they will reach the goal for a recount. Of course, that is, if the state approves it and allows it.

And the evidence it was doctored is right on it. Look down on senator vote count "write in". They copied the 13 .04% from there. How can it be the same percentage with a higher vote count. I'm not going to waste my time but willing bet the percentages don't add up.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx4FYHJW8AAHBhq.jpg

Debunked..

Recount!
Why are you worried?
The recount will be paid for with private donations.

fiddy leftist recounts

You can't NOT debunk something because you're tired and label it debunked by you! That's not how it works :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

bump to libsters for NH question

On second thought. I remember seeing a video some time ago where these machines were counting votes in 100ths or 1000ths of a percent so the percentage could be the same. But here are the actual tallies

https://www.co.sauk.wi.us/sites/defa...ialresults.pdf

The higher numbers on that receipt aren't on the official tally.

Because it only has 4 EVs.

I thought it was because of election integrity.
I thought it was for Jill, who will not reach 270 anyway.
I thought...

Oh, well.

There might be some truth to it being about election integrity, but the real reason is to hope they can flip a couple of these states to keep Trump from taking office.

Their theory is likely this: If they can get a recount to flip Michigan and Pennsylvania over to Clinton that would make it Trump 270 and Clinton 268. If they can then get a couple of faithless electors to flip on Trump Clinton could take over.

It's a long shot, but at this point clearly democrats are desperate.

They've raised over $2.5 million in donations so Wisconsin will evidently officially be recounted.

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

what makes you think anyone is "worried"? it's just giving people false hope, unnecessarily extending the suffering... it's time to accept what happened and move on... not to mention, the wasted $$$, the energy spent on a recount, time wasted on all the discussion about it, etc could be directed to more productive ventures... :2 cents:

I just spent the money to ruin the Holiday for the Trumpsters -- choke on your turkey.

That was worth the chump change. If the Greens come though and file the challenge for the recount and need more money to follow through -- I'll give a bit more.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving.

ruin anyone's holiday's? really? you do realize she needs to flip all 3 states? you should have bought lottery tickets instead, as that would have resulted in better chance of winning... :thumbsup

It's costing me the price of a movie ticket and it's MUCH better entertainment.

Considering Trump carries the entire Rural areas where all the gun owners live I'd say if it was reversed you'll see drama that makes recent protests look like kiddie camp. :ak47: :BangBang: :2 cents:

I agree. If can imagine that a few are already a little nervous about a recount. But imagine if it flips. Ho-lee Hell.

Yeah the question is would it be protests with violence or would they just seek out the target and eliminate her. :warning

http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscm...ux-600-480.png

:error:1orglaugh

Another wrong Poll :1orglaugh

Lol they said then needed $2.5 million now there goal is $4.5 million

Looks fishy ...

The $2.5 Million was just to cover the filing fees. Once they do that successfully the rest of the money will be there :2 cents:
So NOLOL :upsidedow

The "Recount Show" may be some live entertainment for some time. They haven't even gotten into court battles yet.

If the vote is not fully certified the Electoral College cannot meet to vote.

Obstructionist Tactics in reverse now.

I just talked to someone in Michigan they said the whole state uses paper ballots can anyone verify?

Nail on the head. We're not talking protests, we're talking civil war and a very likley military coup. This will make black lives matter look like a gnats tampon

Mine was a scanned paper ballot -- I am in MI. The whole state I cannot say for sure.

Shes being such a "stein"

I read online that all of Michigan has scanned paper ballots.

The point Stein is making is that those machines can be hacked and recounting the paper ballots will be accurate.

Well, there won't be any hanging chads this time.
They can rescan the ballots very quickly with certified scanners.

The scanner at the voting polls is like a paper shredder-atm. You feed the ballot into the scanner box slot yourself and it is scanned and stored in the secure container below. Very easy to recount.

Bottom line it will be a recounted certified examination. Whoever is certified as the winner won -- no disputes. Just petty bickering.

Lol......!

Its been known the machines can be hacked for 16 years but no one did anything. Why? So they can keep hacking them..