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Mediamix 11-29-2016 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21338572)
The problem is people are waiting for ideas that are simple and at their level. My ideas have never been easy.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh This shit is too funny....

Barry-xlovecam 11-29-2016 06:09 AM

Paul we can see the real reason you retired.

Bladewire 11-29-2016 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21339073)
Paul we can see the real reason you retired.

He had a bout with cancer and feels he doesn't physically have the strength to shoot as he used to. Seriously

Struggle4Bucks 11-29-2016 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21338593)
Join the"If I can't do it no one can" Crew. You couldn't shoot BDS content that was good enough. Roald confirmed it.

You knowledge of porn is so huge that I even don't know what you mean with BDS content...

Roald did not confirm anything in regards to my content... Owh you mean the "we wait for data to see if we continue to update" part... You cannot compare me, running the sites as a sole proprietor, with a large company like Payserve. What's worth it to me as sole proprietor (who did this out of passion) might not be worth it to them as a large company. Completely different approach...

1+1=2. That's considered a fact.
1+x=x... that's the best you can say about it.
What you do is following: 1+x=3.

What i'm saying is: learn to read. The conclusions you draw are nothing but assumptions!

I never claimed my sites were big money makers.
You claim that I couldn't afford it to shoot new updates: Wrong!
Could I continue to update the sites based on current revenue? Yes
It still generated a profit... Did it generate a decent income? Completely subjective and also completely irrelevant to you...

The only thing I said was: you can still make a decent living with a paysite.
Whatever conclusions you draw from that is completely on your behalf...

Some paysites break even; some make supplementary income; some make a decent income; some are killing it.

Long story short:
You can't draw conclusions about a whole industry based on some paysites you have seen closing down during the years... That's why you talk shit most of the time... You lack the intelligence to oversee and consider all ins and outs behind the curtain.

You're nothing but an old noosey crancky cunt trying to stick his nose in other peoples affairs because you are bored looking at your neighbors clay hut all day...

Bladewire 11-29-2016 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 21339079)
You knowledge of porn is so huge that I even don't know what you mean with BDS content...

Roald did not confirm anything in regards to my content... Owh you mean the "we wait for data to see if we continue to update" part... You cannot compare me, running the sites as a sole proprietor, with a large company like Payserve. What's worth it to me as sole proprietor (who did this out of passion) might not be worth it to them as a large company. Completely different approach...

1+1=2. That's considered a fact.
1+x=x... that's the best you can say about it.
What you do is following: 1+x=3.

What i'm saying is: learn to read. The conclusions you draw are nothing but assumptions!

I never claimed my sites were big money makers.
You claim that I couldn't afford it to shoot new updates: Wrong!
Could I continue to update the sites based on current revenue? Yes
It still generated a profit... Did it generate a decent income? Completely subjective and also completely irrelevant to you...

The only thing I said was: you can still make a decent living with a paysite.
Whatever conclusions you draw from that is completely on your behalf...

Some paysites break even; some make supplementary income; some make a decent income; some are killing it.

Long story short:
You can't draw conclusions about a whole industry based on some paysites you have seen closing down during the years... That's why you talk shit most of the time... You lack the intelligence to oversee and consider all ins and outs behind the curtain.

Well said :thumbsup

Barry-xlovecam 11-29-2016 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21339076)
He had a bout with cancer and feels he doesn't physically have the strength to shoot as he used to. Seriously

I know that.
I knew Paul before he got sick too :winkwink:

Steve Rupe 11-29-2016 11:02 AM

The OP appears to be senile.

Paul Markham 11-30-2016 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 21338656)
lol what did I confirm?

When you said, you were adding new content to see if you could raise sales enough to warrant working on the site. Obviously, the sites as they currently are aren't worth working on.

Paul Markham 11-30-2016 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21339076)
He had a bout with cancer and feels he doesn't physically have the strength to shoot as he used to. Seriously

Which was proven when I shot the $3,000 scene for Manwin.

Paul Markham 11-30-2016 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 21339079)
You knowledge of porn is so huge that I even don't know what you mean with BDS content...

Roald did not confirm anything in regards to my content... Owh you mean the "we wait for data to see if we continue to update" part... You cannot compare me, running the sites as a sole proprietor, with a large company like Payserve. What's worth it to me as sole proprietor (who did this out of passion) might not be worth it to them as a large company. Completely different approach...

1+1=2. That's considered a fact.
1+x=x... that's the best you can say about it.
What you do is following: 1+x=3.

Roald confirmed that updating the site wasn't worth it with their huge resources based on what you had done. Along with the extra content, they have extra avenues to get traffic. In no way do I compare you to the company he works for.

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I never claimed my sites were big money makers.
You claim that I couldn't afford it to shoot new updates: Wrong!
Could I continue to update the sites based on current revenue? Yes
It still generated a profit... Did it generate a decent income? Completely subjective and also completely irrelevant to you...
So why sell it?

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The only thing I said was: you can still make a decent living with a paysite.
Whatever conclusions you draw from that is completely on your behalf...
So show us your new one.

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Some paysites break even; some make supplementary income; some make a decent income; some are killing it.
Agreed. Where is your paysite in that ladder?

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Long story short:
You can't draw conclusions about a whole industry based on some paysites you have seen closing down during the years... That's why you talk shit most of the time... You lack the intelligence to oversee and consider all ins and outs behind the curtain.
I'm not. There are sites making a decent amount. Most are on a downward slope.

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You're nothing but an old noosey crancky cunt trying to stick his nose in other peoples affairs because you are bored looking at your neighbors clay hut all day...
If I was wrong, the industry wouldn't be 99.99% free.

romeo22 11-30-2016 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediamix (Post 21336220)
Here we go again! Let's all sit by the fireplace, because grandpa is telling stories. :thumbsup

Lolll that naughty Grandpa

Paul Markham 11-30-2016 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21339409)
I know that.
I knew Paul before he got sick too :winkwink:

I was always critical of the trend to compete at giving away free content. The only limit was the cost of B/W. Back in the day, there were many stories of affiliates posting TGPs on sites and losing money or breaking even because of the cost of B/W. On sites, some producers could afford to buy spots.

B/W drops to a level Tubes could profit and the rush to give them free content turned into a stampede. And 1-200 views to a sale turned in 1-40,000. Numbers are an example. Even at a 0.5% conversion, rate the loss of money was unsustainable for most. The industry was only propped up by the increase of surfers from countries we could bill.

All this I predicted and was told I was wrong.

Sites promoting themselves as they did in 2008 will lose sales in the future. We have to engage with the surfer more than free content or text.

The amazing thing about the trolls is none have anything better to offer, few have a link to promote and most are stuck in the past. This idea will work because elevating a porn model to more than her body does work. How many times has it been claimed surfers buy a model because they fall in love with her, your business relies on it, this is all about raising her attractiveness above her physical looks.

Of course, this can't be done properly with Third World girls who can't speak English. Is that why so many are anti, they can only afford Third World girls?

Struggle4Bucks 11-30-2016 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21342025)
Roald confirmed that updating the site wasn't worth it with their huge resources based on what you had done. Along with the extra content, they have extra avenues to get traffic. In no way do I compare you to the company he works for.

So why sell it?

So show us your new one.

Agreed. Where is your paysite in that ladder?

I'm not. There are sites making a decent amount. Most are on a downward slope.

If I was wrong, the industry wouldn't be 99.99% free.

Like I said... What's it worth to me might not be worth it to them...
What part are you missing? Read again... Cost of operation for a larger company is higher than for a sole proprietor... With cost per update in mind it would have been impossible for me to lose money on updating... For them? ask them not me...
They first approached me for a partnership... That means that even with a revenue split it would have been worth it to both... or they wouldn't be interested... right?

Read again.. I allready told you why I sold... Do I really have to repeat fucking everything? Stop wasting my fucking time...:helpme

It's non of your business where my sites were in that ladder... Really non of your fucking business... Besides that it's irrelevant in the discussion if paysites still can make money... Nosey cranky cunt...

Paul Markham 11-30-2016 08:09 AM

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Struggle4Bucks 11-30-2016 08:23 AM

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The all knowing Paul Markham surrenders.

He is now on his knees sucking my cock... For once... only once... I'll accept an act of homosexual activity...
Does it make me gay??

The Porn Nerd 11-30-2016 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 21342877)
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The all knowing Paul Markham surrenders.

He is now on his knees sucking my cock... For once... only once... I'll accept an act of homosexual activity...
Does it make me gay??

But the real question is did he take his dentures out or not? :D

Barry-xlovecam 11-30-2016 08:54 AM

Most girls that are well educated and speak proper English have mainstream jobs that pay well and do not have any 'porn stigma' attached to them.

They are not interested Paul.
There are the freaks out there ... There are lay down sales opportunities too.
Most guys do not fall in love with the cam girl's intellectual talents.

You were always right Paul -- Old School Porn and 'magic links' were yesterdays news. But instead of leading by example you only offered your critique and most people didn't hear you after you offended them :2 cents: So, you wasted you breath.

Go ahead on open the Paul Markham Porn School for Girls :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Wish you success.

Are you the one writing cheap romance novels now?
https://www.amazon.com/Paul-Markham/e/B00IPMWNGO

Roald 11-30-2016 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21342025)
Roald confirmed that updating the site wasn't worth it with their huge resources based on what you had done. Along with the extra content, they have extra avenues to get traffic. In no way do I compare you to the company he works for.

Pretty sure I said something like I first want to see the data the coming months and we work from there. In no way did I say the site wasn't worth it, really no idea where you got that from.

We would also work with S4B again in regards to content as he knows the niche and sites best and he is very good in what he does.

Peace!

Struggle4Bucks 11-30-2016 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 21342910)
But the real question is did he take his dentures out or not? :D

:1orglaugh

I insisted...

Struggle4Bucks 11-30-2016 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 21342952)
Pretty sure I said something like I first want to see the data the coming months and we work from there. In no way did I say the site wasn't worth it, really no idea where you got that from.

We would also work with S4B again in regards to content as he knows the niche and sites best and he is very good in what he does.

Peace!

Well thank you Roald... I appreciate that! You know where to find me...:thumbsup

Roald 11-30-2016 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21342016)
When you said, you were adding new content to see if you could raise sales enough to warrant working on the site. Obviously, the sites as they currently are aren't worth working on.

How do you get to that conclussion?

All this just shows you have zero knowledge about this all Paul.

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Barry-xlovecam 11-30-2016 10:03 AM

Must be -- it's classic Markham wall of text :1orglaugh

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