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Struggle4Bucks 11-30-2016 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21342001)

He opens a blog with real advice on how to improve sites. General advice that needs tweaking for the individual company.

I do this here, the problem is the right of idiots to post stupid replies.

If you sincerely wanted to give advice you would have already stopped giving it. You do not want to give advice... you want to be right...

Sly 11-30-2016 08:21 AM

Who's next?

This could be a fun thread if you guys let it be.

The Porn Nerd 11-30-2016 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 21342874)
Who's next?

This could be a fun thread if you guys let it be.

Yes dear friend but you are not Shap. :)

(Shap should post what YOU did and maybe it WOULD be a fun thread. Instead the Shapster got butt hurt. So take it over and do some actual good!)

Marcus 11-30-2016 08:53 AM

Ok here's an one of mine http://www.crossdresserdate.com/

I bought the domain name 10 years ago, put some dating software on it, did absolutely nothing, and years later looked and found I have thousands of (free) members. All from Google I guess.

I've done this with many niches but this CD niche had by far the most activity, maybe from the domain name.

To be honest I'm not that interested in diving into the niche so I'm hands off, but I would like to either
1. Partner with someone good who can build it up and make it profitable
or
2. Sell it.

*yes I know its not mobile:winkwink:

Sly 11-30-2016 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus (Post 21342925)
Ok here's an one of mine http://www.crossdresserdate.com/

I bought the domain name 10 years ago, put some dating software on it, did absolutely nothing, and years later looked and found I have thousands of (free) members. All from Google I guess.

I've done this with many niches but this CD niche had by far the most activity, maybe from the domain name.

To be honest I'm not that interested in diving into the niche so I'm hands off, but I would like to either
1. Partner with someone good who can build it up and make it profitable
or
2. Sell it.

Neither of your requests are very actionable in this capacity. If you are not interested in the niche or working on it, you absolutely should sell or partner. Partnering is going to be a long shot. Selling would be your best option.

Does it make any money? Has it made any money? Is there a simple change that you could make right now so that it starts making money?

If the answer to the last question is yes, go ahead and make those changes, then sit on it for a while. Collect your free money and in 6-12 months you will have some data that you can use to sell the site out right.

Shap 12-02-2016 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 21339229)
Honestly it is amazing how many people don't really want help. But they do want to bitch about things.

I try to help affiliates all the time. Some take the advice some don't.

I dont know everything and have learned a ton from my affiliates and for me that's what this game is about. Never ending knowledge.


I spoke with you once Shap but you had little feed back for me because my niche is not something you know/knew about. You did mention one or two things and we looked at them did some research and implemented changes. Not exactly what you thought but close. and it worked.

People tend to think that you are playing know it all and that your word comes with lightening and thunder. When I know and feel that's not your intention.

Your an outside view that worked hard, had some luck and then turned that into more hard work. Something people miss.

Thanks. Hitting you up. :thumbsup

Shap 12-02-2016 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 21339526)

Damn this site looks hot.

Here are my thoughts.
#1 I like the top image. Very sexy.
#2 the moving gif is great. Close up, sexy, sensual. Gives great vibe of what the site is about.


So some ideas.
#1 Your 404 page. I'd make your 404 page go to a specific 404 page that looks like your join page. For example have your join box on that page and then an message that says sorry the page you are looking for isn't available but join now and get access to all of our content. Something like that. We did this on Twistys and saw a very nice uptick in sales. It's not going to add 20 a day but it's going to add more than you have now :thumbsup

#2 The tour feels a little bit light on content. Is it a new site? If it is I would emphasize that and date your content. I would say how the hottest adult site has launched, updates every x days.

#3 I'd add the model's full name. No reason not to.

#4 The content looks really really fuckin hot but this feels like a one page ad. I think you could really hide your lack of content by expanding on the preview you offer. I'd have each preview go to another page with a full 30 second trailers (highest res) and 8 high res photo previews. Why? Because this content is SO SO SO good you have to see it to believe it. Just an animated gif does it no justice. So instead of landing on this page and getting only 2 animated gifs give the surfer 9 pages to view with high quality trailers and photos. This isn't easily implemented which is why i listed it as #4. I know it may go against what many are doing with tours today but this content looks so good I feel people seeing it in full high def would be the clincher. The trailers don't even have to be elaborate they just have to show the same hotness you have in the gif but in large format.

#5 i feel this layout is 50% preview and 50% text but the text adds absolutely nothing to the sale of the content. I imagine 97% won't even read (besides model name). I know it is filler. I would try to fill with some other data. If you have active members maybe set ratings, votes, comments. If I saw the first scene Taking the Lead and instead of the text it said 394 Votes, 9.4 Rating, 122 Comments. That would get me thinking HOLY SHIT that must be hot content. Something along those lines. Maybe set up the tour so the votes and rating and comments move daily. Votes increase by x amount a day, rating fluctuates up and down daily and comments go up x amount per day.

#6 Just checked it on mobile as well. Looks great. I'd lower the text/text size. As i scroll on an iphone 7 most of the screen is text then thumbnail then text.

Really nice site. Love it! Hope it does well. :thumbsup

Shap 12-02-2016 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron (Post 21339667)
This.

When it comes to written content ( erotic stories, poetry, etc ) honest critique is the equivalent of a two way gold brick paved street.

Only idiots with oversized egos will insist their content, sales strategies or sites can't be improved or that handing out suggestions for free is a waste of time.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Shap 12-02-2016 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 21339739)

Hi this one will be a challenge. One market I know nothing about. Let's see how it goes.

#1 First thought is your big screen shot when i land on the page shows Tweets. I know it's your platform and your layout but my eye can only make out Tweets so my initial thought is this a TweetDeck competitor? Nothing about it makes me think it's a host. How about switching that to something that looks like a website layout? or what you are trying to sell.

#2 This is not an easy actionable item but feedback on the video. I like the idea of your video but the execution misses the mark. You have a few icons/images you use in it that i have no idea what they are (ie the box one that looks like a wrapped present). The colours and the strictly icon nature of the video really don't work for me. I'd much rather a LIVE video of you showcasing a real example.

#3 Is there a reason you have NO adult on your site? I mean you are an adult host trying to explain you do adult hosting but there are no adult images. Makes me wonder why is an adult host afraid to show adult photos.

#4 When I click Features I expected a page with a list of features and maybe screeenshots. Same with Video. When it just dropped the page a tad to the features section it left me disappointed. It made me feel like if this one page layout disappoints me is that the feeling the product is going to leave me with? Think about your prospective client what is he looking for during the process of discovering your service you don't want any moments of disappointment.

#5 I'd like to see samples. I think this is something you can easily add to this page. Should take 30 minutes. Add 4 to 12 sample sites using your service.

#6 Testimonials. I'd add 5 to 10 testimonials.

#7 Are you growing? If show post a graphic of your bw chart from the day you started or number of hits. If you have a graph that looks like you have hockey stick growth Post it.

#8 What are the best features you offer? I can't tell from this page. Clearly there are 3 things you are fuckin awesome at. Are there 3 things you do better than everyone? TELL US what they are and why.

Shap 12-02-2016 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 21339982)
Shap you have my email. You sent me a generic 'How you doing?' one recently. My four affiliate programs are in my sig. You KNOW my sites, my business model and overall setup. Yet I never get ANY feedback or advice from you, ever.

Emails with ideas sent, genuine and thoughtful posts in your threads, an overall appreciation for your skills and experience....guess what it has gotten me? Crickets.

Yet I make more and more money every year. Amazing, isn't it? I am not looking for public feedback but a detailed email giving me some tips would have shown me you are a serious person with good intentions. So far I have not received such an email. :)

I like you :) You've said many times you know what you are doing and don't want feedback. You are one person that has made a point over the years of telling me how much you don't want my feedback. Has something changed? Email me a few main sites you are working on and i'll give you feedback on them. But only if you really want it :thumbsup

Shap 12-02-2016 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21342103)
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Also, shoot it in locations viewers can relate to.

I disagree with this. SinfulXXX doesn't strike me as a site trying to replicate real life rather it's trying to portray and deliver the fantasy world we like to imagine. I don't have a problem with the location i think it adds to the mystic and sexiness.

Paul Markham 12-02-2016 03:57 AM

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Hire an actor to go through all the great things about your company. Edit in directions to the pages explaining more and videos of the location and equipment.

A video will stop people in their tracks and start them rating you above the rest.

SinfulXXX.com Female and Couple Friendly Porn!

Stop shooting black backgrounds. Porn is fantasy the viewer relates to, especially women. Candles are great who hasn't had that fantasy? Also, make it more real with character. Give viewers a hook they can relate to.

Shap 12-02-2016 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 21342874)
Who's next?

This could be a fun thread if you guys let it be.

Agreed :thumbsup

Shap 12-02-2016 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron (Post 21339877)
Put something porny on that laptop's screen.

We think alike :) I'm answering before I scroll down. Love that we say the same things :thumbsup

Shap 12-02-2016 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 21342916)
Yes dear friend but you are not Shap. :)

(Shap should post what YOU did and maybe it WOULD be a fun thread. Instead the Shapster got butt hurt. So take it over and do some actual good!)

Butt hurt :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I post threads like this with the hope that they help one person. Hopefully that happens. If it does it's worth it :thumbsup

Shap 12-02-2016 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 21339229)
Honestly it is amazing how many people don't really want help. But they do want to bitch about things.

I try to help affiliates all the time. Some take the advice some don't.

I dont know everything and have learned a ton from my affiliates and for me that's what this game is about. Never ending knowledge.


I spoke with you once Shap but you had little feed back for me because my niche is not something you know/knew about. You did mention one or two things and we looked at them did some research and implemented changes. Not exactly what you thought but close. and it worked.

People tend to think that you are playing know it all and that your word comes with lightening and thunder. When I know and feel that's not your intention.

Your an outside view that worked hard, had some luck and then turned that into more hard work. Something people miss.

Just assaulted your email with ideas. Hope it helps.

Magnetron 12-02-2016 06:33 AM

Just giving this a bump ..... but also want to stress that at the end of the day, it's your site. You have to do what you feel is in your best interest. Not all suggestions can be implemented, especially if you receive conllicting advice.

This industry as a whole suffers greatly from a cookie cutter mentality. If you feel that your presentation is unique enough that it stands out from the rest, then stick to your guns. There are an untold number of sites out there that get treated the same just because they look the same.

It is true that in some cases, it is advantageous to share similarities with other popular sites. But if those sites are banging cards or riddled with malware, yours can be guilty of these practices too merely through the surfer's process of association.

Brian mike 12-02-2016 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron (Post 21348877)
Just giving this a bump ..... but also want to stress that at the end of the day, it's your site. You have to do what you feel is in your best interest. Not all suggestions can be implemented, especially if you receive conllicting advice.

This industry as a whole suffers greatly from a cookie cutter mentality. If you feel that your presentation is unique enough that it stands out from the rest, then stick to your guns. There are an untold number of sites out there that get treated the same just because they look the same.

It is true that in some cases, it is advantageous to share similarities with other popular sites. But if those sites are banging cards or riddled with malware, yours can be guilty of these practices too merely through the surfer's process of association.

Well said :thumbsup

The Porn Nerd 12-02-2016 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 21348637)
Butt hurt :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I post threads like this with the hope that they help one person. Hopefully that happens. If it does it's worth it :thumbsup

Butt hurt:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 21339226)
Email me man, Fuck these guys, lesson learned last post here.

LOL But it's ok man. I like you too. The thing with my sites is, based on the traffic I have, I am already getting a pretty good conversion ratio. So what I am looking for are new traffic sources and strategies and how to optimize the areas of my business I am less-than-great at (mailings, social media, etc). I am not looking for design feedback or how to tweak this or that on a Tour. :)

MaDalton 12-02-2016 10:10 AM

technically not my site but: Arousing VR Porn Videos - Reality Lovers ;)

Bladewire 12-02-2016 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 21348691)
Just assaulted your email with ideas. Hope it helps.

He's back YES! :banana:GFYBand:banana

fuzebox 12-02-2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 21348619)
I like you :) You've said many times you know what you are doing and don't want feedback. You are one person that has made a point over the years of telling me how much you don't want my feedback. Has something changed? Email me a few main sites you are working on and i'll give you feedback on them. But only if you really want it :thumbsup

This is very true. I think it's common knowledge Porn Nerd doesn't take feedback and wants to do everything his own way.

Nothing wrong with that.

The Porn Nerd 12-02-2016 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 21349423)
This is very true. I think it's common knowledge Porn Nerd doesn't take feedback and wants to do everything his own way.

Nothing wrong with that.

Not true. I accept feedback as long as it is private and constructive. But being in this Industry for eight years now I've learned that doing this on a public forum just opens yourself up to trolling, negativity and sometimes outright theft of ideas. Not from Shap but from others who wish to chime in.

I've learned, grown and earned more money by listening to others. But I've also learned that what works for other companies does not always work for me (and vice versa) so a real knowledge of my business model and its' limitations is what's needed for any feedback to be really useful. :)

Markul 12-08-2016 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 21348610)
Hi this one will be a challenge. One market I know nothing about. Let's see how it goes.

#1 First thought is your big screen shot when i land on the page shows Tweets. I know it's your platform and your layout but my eye can only make out Tweets so my initial thought is this a TweetDeck competitor? Nothing about it makes me think it's a host. How about switching that to something that looks like a website layout? or what you are trying to sell.

#2 This is not an easy actionable item but feedback on the video. I like the idea of your video but the execution misses the mark. You have a few icons/images you use in it that i have no idea what they are (ie the box one that looks like a wrapped present). The colours and the strictly icon nature of the video really don't work for me. I'd much rather a LIVE video of you showcasing a real example.

#3 Is there a reason you have NO adult on your site? I mean you are an adult host trying to explain you do adult hosting but there are no adult images. Makes me wonder why is an adult host afraid to show adult photos.

#4 When I click Features I expected a page with a list of features and maybe screeenshots. Same with Video. When it just dropped the page a tad to the features section it left me disappointed. It made me feel like if this one page layout disappoints me is that the feeling the product is going to leave me with? Think about your prospective client what is he looking for during the process of discovering your service you don't want any moments of disappointment.

#5 I'd like to see samples. I think this is something you can easily add to this page. Should take 30 minutes. Add 4 to 12 sample sites using your service.

#6 Testimonials. I'd add 5 to 10 testimonials.

#7 Are you growing? If show post a graphic of your bw chart from the day you started or number of hits. If you have a graph that looks like you have hockey stick growth Post it.

#8 What are the best features you offer? I can't tell from this page. Clearly there are 3 things you are fuckin awesome at. Are there 3 things you do better than everyone? TELL US what they are and why.

Hey Shap, thanks a million. I love honest constructive feedback like this - I haven't gotten back to you yet as we are super busy developing a pretty big update to the system. Once this is done, we'll get on to doing an overhaul on the main page and when that is live, I'll report back here for a second round :)

Thanks! :thumbsup

pornguy 12-08-2016 06:15 AM

Yep got them all and made some new changes. :)

pornguy 12-08-2016 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus (Post 21342925)
Ok here's an one of mine http://www.crossdresserdate.com/

I bought the domain name 10 years ago, put some dating software on it, did absolutely nothing, and years later looked and found I have thousands of (free) members. All from Google I guess.

I've done this with many niches but this CD niche had by far the most activity, maybe from the domain name.

To be honest I'm not that interested in diving into the niche so I'm hands off, but I would like to either
1. Partner with someone good who can build it up and make it profitable
or
2. Sell it.

*yes I know its not mobile:winkwink:


Hey Marcus. Message me.

Markul 12-20-2016 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 21348610)
Hi this one will be a challenge. One market I know nothing about. Let's see how it goes.

#1 First thought is your big screen shot when i land on the page shows Tweets. I know it's your platform and your layout but my eye can only make out Tweets so my initial thought is this a TweetDeck competitor? Nothing about it makes me think it's a host. How about switching that to something that looks like a website layout? or what you are trying to sell.

#2 This is not an easy actionable item but feedback on the video. I like the idea of your video but the execution misses the mark. You have a few icons/images you use in it that i have no idea what they are (ie the box one that looks like a wrapped present). The colours and the strictly icon nature of the video really don't work for me. I'd much rather a LIVE video of you showcasing a real example.

#3 Is there a reason you have NO adult on your site? I mean you are an adult host trying to explain you do adult hosting but there are no adult images. Makes me wonder why is an adult host afraid to show adult photos.

#4 When I click Features I expected a page with a list of features and maybe screeenshots. Same with Video. When it just dropped the page a tad to the features section it left me disappointed. It made me feel like if this one page layout disappoints me is that the feeling the product is going to leave me with? Think about your prospective client what is he looking for during the process of discovering your service you don't want any moments of disappointment.

#5 I'd like to see samples. I think this is something you can easily add to this page. Should take 30 minutes. Add 4 to 12 sample sites using your service.

#6 Testimonials. I'd add 5 to 10 testimonials.

#7 Are you growing? If show post a graphic of your bw chart from the day you started or number of hits. If you have a graph that looks like you have hockey stick growth Post it.

#8 What are the best features you offer? I can't tell from this page. Clearly there are 3 things you are fuckin awesome at. Are there 3 things you do better than everyone? TELL US what they are and why.


Shap, we've done a brushup of the site and listed to (some of) your feedback. We'll do another round in the new year when we get some more time on our hands - cheers! Appreciate the input man :thumbsup


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