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brassmonkey 11-29-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 21340174)
No...that's killing your parents. :pimp

fiddy flag burners
:Oh crap :helpme:helpme :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 11-29-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21340633)
That "piece of cloth" is "the" symbol of our country. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died while serving under that "piece of cloth". That "piece of cloth" is displayed where ever the United States has a presence, on the land, sea, air, and outer space. It is far, far more than just a "piece of cloth". Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.

I think a lot of things legal are disgusting like churches being tax exempt while being legally allowed to discriminate against women.

I love my country and think burning a flag is shitty, but it's legal. Buttfucking is shitty, but it's legal. Raping your wife is shitty, but it's legal.

I think you feel more about the material flag than the rights and history it represents, and your fellow Americans equal rights :2 cents:

If your patriotism makes you a better American than most then you of all people should stand by the American you despise most and defend their rights as your own. This is how Democrats think/act. This is why the vast majority of military voters are registered Democrats :2 cents:

BlackCrayon 11-29-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21340633)
That "piece of cloth" is "the" symbol of our country. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died while serving under that "piece of cloth". That "piece of cloth" is displayed where ever the United States has a presence, on the land, sea, air, and outer space. It is far, far more than just a "piece of cloth". Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.

like you said, its a symbol, its not the country, its not a person. if no one cared when someone wanted to burn a flag, it would lose the power and no one would do it. keep killing people but make sure no one harms an inanimate object that is typically made in china.

Bladewire 11-29-2016 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 21340564)
its just a piece of cloth. i find it strange that its ok to kill a person who trespasses on someones property, ok to abort a living fetus but burn the flag and you go to jail. makes no sense.

Spot on :thumbsup

Steve Rupe 11-29-2016 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21340651)
I think a lot of things legal are disgusting like churches being tax exempt while being legally allowed to discriminate against women.

I love my country and think burning a flag is shitty, but it's legal. Buttfucking is shitty, but it's legal. Raping your wife is shitty, but it's legal.

I think you feel more about the material flag than the rights and history it represents, and your fellow Americans equal rights :2 cents:

"Buttfucking" is not legal in every state in the union and apparently isn't in 12 states. Raping your wife is not legal in "every" state in the Union. You asked me the question, so I will now ask you the same question, "What country do you live in?" If the answer is the United States then you are very ignorant about American Law. In addition the majority of upper echelon military personnel, as well as career military personnel are Republicans.

bronco67 11-29-2016 02:43 PM

Is he going to be acting this way as the President of the United States of America? he has two months to grow the fuck up.

Bladewire 11-29-2016 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21340681)
"Buttfucking" is not legal in every state in the union and apparently isn't in 12 states. Raping your wife is not legal in "every" state in the Union. You asked me the question, so I will now ask you the same question, "What country do you live in?" If the answer is the United States then you are very ignorant about American Law.

Damn I've been breaking the law!

I was messing with you about the wife rape, that became illegal in 1979.

I'm American born and bred. I don't think I'm a better American because I don't want a flag burned, but clearly you think it makes you a better man, more of an American than me, a better American. By your same logic with your "knowing the law" comment, lawyers are better Americans than you because they know more about the law :2 cents:


Got me! Just realised you're a troll nick registered last month only posting in political threads e2 posts total. Blocking you :thumbsup

Steve Rupe 11-29-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21340708)
Damn I've been breaking the law!

I was messing with you about the wife rape, that became illegal in 1979.

I'm American born and bred. I don't think I'm a better American because I don't want a flag burned, but clearly you think it makes you a better man, more of an American than me, a better American. By your same logic with your "knowing the law" comment, lawyers are better Americans than you because they know more about the law :2 cents:

Of course you are assuming that I do not have legal training. I think anyone that burns the Flag are not "patriots". A patriot would never burn the Flag, in my opinion.

Joshua G 11-29-2016 05:21 PM

funny to read GFY libs protect free speech when that speech is flag burning.

when it comes to uttering the N word however, its dangerous & must be wiped out.

:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 11-29-2016 06:07 PM

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/491/397

491 U.S. 397

Texas v. Johnson (No. 88-155)

Argued: March 21, 1989

Decided: June 21, 1989

Do you actually expect the US Supreme Court to reverse itself?

sarettah 11-29-2016 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21340633)
That "piece of cloth" is "the" symbol of our country. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died while serving under that "piece of cloth". That "piece of cloth" is displayed where ever the United States has a presence, on the land, sea, air, and outer space. It is far, far more than just a "piece of cloth". Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.

I honorably served in the US Navy for 8 years. My father served before me (WWII). My son is in the Navy now. We all took an oath that among other things included " I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". We all were willing to give our lives to protect YOUR rights, including the right of Free Speech. I had conversations with both my father (while he was alive) and my son about this very issue and we were all in agreement that while we personally would probably never burn a flag we would give our lives to protect your right to burn a flag.

America cannot be destroyed by someone burning a flag. If someone feels strongly enough about how their country is working for them, or not working for them, to express themselves by destroying a symbol of that country than so be it.

Someone disagreeing with what our country is doing is not an enemy of our country. We have the right to seek redress, we have the right to express ourselves, we have the right to disagree with our elected leaders and we have a right to express that disagreement as long as we are doing no physical harm to other people or their property or infringing upon other people's rights.

As was stated earlier, if they don't own the flag that they are burning then they are breaking a different law. If they want to lay out the cash to buy a flag and then just burn it, have at it.

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Steve Rupe 11-29-2016 07:27 PM

I too am former military. I have my opinion and you have yours. My opinion is the only one that matters to me in this subject of burning the flag. It is a black and white matter as far as I am concerned.

Bladewire 11-29-2016 07:29 PM

^^ fake nick ^^

Steve Rupe 11-29-2016 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21341482)
^^ fake nick ^^

It is my name. Is Bladewire your name? It is a rhetorical question, so no need for you to answer.

sarettah 11-29-2016 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21341470)
I too am former military. I have my opinion and you have yours. My opinion is the only one that matters to me in this subject of burning the flag. It is a black and white matter as far as I am concerned.

Question for you. You are lost out in the wilderness, you have a U.S. Flag and a match and a bunch of very large logs. No kindling, no leaves, nothing to use as a fire starter except your flag. If you do not get a fire started you will die. Do you burn the flag or not?

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Just Alex 11-29-2016 07:49 PM

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loss of citizenship
And immediate deportation on a cargo plane

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ErectMedia 11-29-2016 07:50 PM

I don't see the need to burn the flag. Don't like the USA say I don't like the USA and book your ass on a one way flight the fuck out da country. Hell I might even pay for it. :2 cents:

Trump Nation :thumbsup

Steve Rupe 11-29-2016 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 21341500)
Question for you. You are lost out in the wilderness, you have a U.S. Flag and a match and a bunch of very large logs. No kindling, no leaves, nothing to use as a fire starter except your flag. If you do not get a fire started you will die. Do you burn the flag or not?

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Without hesitation, yes. I am interested in the point that you are going to attempt to make, so carry on please, and make your point.

sarettah 11-29-2016 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21341509)
Without hesitation, yes. I am interested in the point that you are going to attempt to make, so carry on please, and make your point.

Just making the point that nothing is sacred.

Also, you stated that "Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.", but apparently it's value is worth less than your life. So, you putting yourself above all the others?

(second point I noticed later, just using that to poke you with..lol)


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ErectMedia 11-29-2016 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 21341500)
Question for you. You are lost out in the wilderness, you have a U.S. Flag and a match and a bunch of very large logs. No kindling, no leaves, nothing to use as a fire starter except your flag. If you do not get a fire started you will die. Do you burn the flag or not?

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Burn your underwear. :winkwink:

Bladewire 11-29-2016 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21341491)
It is my name. Is Bladewire your name? It is a rhetorical question, so no need for you to answer.

Plaster / Mark you're such a troll you can't even change the way you talk piece of shit :1orglaugh 10pm your time here come the drunk posts :1orglaugh

sarettah 11-29-2016 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 21341515)
Burn your underwear. :winkwink:

I never wear clothes out in the wilderness. Helps keep the bears away ;p

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TCLGirls 11-29-2016 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21340645)
I apparently missed the news report. When was he charged with fraud? More importantly when was he convicted of fraud?


And OJ never killed anyone...

TCLGirls 11-29-2016 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21341470)
I too am former military. I have my opinion and you have yours. My opinion is the only one that matters to me in this subject of burning the flag. It is a black and white matter as far as I am concerned.

Ok then, you can put yourself in jail if you burn the flag. As for everyone else, mind your own business.

Steve Rupe 11-29-2016 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 21341512)
Just making the point that nothing is sacred.

Also, you stated that "Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.", but apparently it's value is worth less than your life. So, you putting yourself above all the others?

(second point I noticed later, just using that to poke you with..lol)


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I was not referring to literal life and death but to living "life".

sarettah 11-29-2016 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21341575)
I was not referring to literal life and death but to living "life".

Well, okey dokey then.


:helpme

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2MuchMark 11-29-2016 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21341209)
funny to read GFY libs protect free speech when that speech is flag burning.

when it comes to uttering the N word however, its dangerous & must be wiped out.

:1orglaugh

Here's your lesson for today.

The Paradox of Free Speech within the Context of White Supremacy -

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2MuchMark 11-29-2016 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21341470)
I too am former military. I have my opinion and you have yours. My opinion is the only one that matters to me in this subject of burning the flag. It is a black and white matter as far as I am concerned.

Hi Steve,

I have a question for you: As someone who has served, do you see Flag Burning as an insult to you personally, or to the Military? Or does it depend on the circumstance? Could someone burn the flag to say, protest against the government, but not protest against the American militar? Could a person who has served, and / or, a person who loves their country, still burn the flag for, let's say, a protest against racial discrimination, or perhaps in a protest against oil companies treading on native-owned land?

Rochard 11-29-2016 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21341482)
^^ fake nick ^^

LOL. Thanks Captain Obvious.

Barry-xlovecam 11-29-2016 10:47 PM

You cannot claim your right to law and order while only supporting the laws you agree with. Unless, you are a hypocrite.

As repugnant as they may be to me, KKK and neo-Nazies have rights of free speech and freedom of assembly. By the same constitutional rights -- I have the right to denounce them.

If you don't like the US Constitution and the laws promulgated then adjudicated by the courts -- get the fuck out of my country -- there are plenty of nations with only state authorized expression and assembly that you can choose from.

Coup 11-29-2016 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21341521)
Plaster / Mark you're such a troll you can't even change the way you talk piece of shit :1orglaugh 10pm your time here come the drunk posts :1orglaugh

Nice trolling.

MiamiBoyz 11-30-2016 03:20 AM

http://67.media.tumblr.com/2ca7b16af...uqwto1_500.jpg

Joshua G 11-30-2016 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21341713)

thanks for the lesson in ignorance.

please tell the author that the recipients of the perceived slur HAVE A CHOICE TO DECIDE HOW TO REACT. the assumption that black people have a right to be hostile in the face of a word is a profoundly fake idea.

black people can, & should, choose to ignore it. But the civil rights industry constantly reminds the community of the past & to shackle them permanently into the liberal plantation. This is the keystone to keep black people democrats: fear & ignorance, of a word that should have no power anymore, but the civil rights industry keeps it alive, for power/money/grants from rich libs.

the important thing to understand that it is NURTURE, not NATURE, that makes a community mad at a word. todays black people are not slaves, can vote, can educate themselves via the web now. no excuses to be mad at the word now...

except making blacks hate the word is a jobs program for the social justice movement.

get a clue mark.

:1orglaugh

Joshua G 11-30-2016 04:09 AM

dont libs find it odd...

that the ethnic slurs so liberally traded in the 70s...spick, spook, chink, guke, slopes, wop, guinea, honkey...are totally out of the vocabulary now.

but the big bad N word persists, since its the only word with an entire social justice cause that profits from teaching black children to hate it when white people use it.

but its OK to use it when rapping.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Joshua G 11-30-2016 04:15 AM

so liberals. how do your fellow voters in the rust belt think of you dumb libs...when your so vocal about protecting the right to burn old glory...but ban Ben shapiro from giving a conservative speech at a college. Ban milo for insulting the token black ghostbuster on twitter.

interesting free speech interpretation by libs...free speech only when libs agree with it...like burning the US flag is OK, N word, no...

:1orglaugh

TCLGirls 11-30-2016 04:46 AM

^^^ Classic meltdown. Reminds me of someone named Dyna Mo.

Barry-xlovecam 11-30-2016 05:44 AM

Go into the Trump Terminal and push the green button.

beerptrol 11-30-2016 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21342331)
so liberals. how do your fellow voters in the rust belt think of you dumb libs...when your so vocal about protecting the right to burn old glory...but ban Ben shapiro from giving a conservative speech at a college. Ban milo for insulting the token black ghostbuster on twitter.

interesting free speech interpretation by libs...free speech only when libs agree with it...like burning the US flag is OK, N word, no...

:1orglaugh

Amazing how your retarded ass can't understand the difference between the government not being allowed to limit free speech and how companies can limit it. DePaul University is a private university and Twitter is a company

The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, ensuring that there is no prohibition on the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble, or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights.

notinmybackyard 11-30-2016 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21339541)

https://i.imgur.com/jmAeWEu.jpg

celandina 11-30-2016 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21339745)
The fact is the supreme court disagrees with your opinion.

Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that invalidated prohibitions on desecrating the American flag enforced in 48 of the 50 states.


I am well aware... But wait for the next constitutional ammendment...in 10,9,8,7,.....:thumbsup

2MuchMark 11-30-2016 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21342283)
thanks for the lesson in ignorance.

please tell the author that the recipients of the perceived slur HAVE A CHOICE TO DECIDE HOW TO REACT.

LOL! Do your own homework, you lazy fuck.

2MuchMark 11-30-2016 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21342922)
LOL! Do your own homework, you lazy fuck.

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 21342388)
^^^ Classic meltdown. Reminds me of someone named Dyna Mo.


He sucks at hiding his multiple personality disorder, especially when he bumps his own threads with those fake nics.

2MuchMark 11-30-2016 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 21342808)

http://bpc.h-cdn.co/assets/16/03/480...soft-touch.jpg

beerptrol 11-30-2016 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21340114)
If only they had thought of that before the election.

I doubt he's that smart. And even if he was, is threatening the constitution worth rattling a few cages?

You noticed people are arguing about flag burning mean while

"Donald Trump Names Steven Mnuchin New Treasury Secretary"

He names a former Golden Sachs/Soros banker, you know, part of establishment big banks he rallied against
There are a few threads of Trump supporters bashing Soros, yet have no problem with Trump hiring a former employee of his

Steve Rupe 11-30-2016 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21341716)
Hi Steve,

I have a question for you: As someone who has served, do you see Flag Burning as an insult to you personally, or to the Military? Or does it depend on the circumstance? Could someone burn the flag to say, protest against the government, but not protest against the American militar? Could a person who has served, and / or, a person who loves their country, still burn the flag for, let's say, a protest against racial discrimination, or perhaps in a protest against oil companies treading on native-owned land?

My thinking is, desecrating the Flag should have remained against the Law. There are many, many other ways to protest. I have nothing further to say about this subject.

notinmybackyard 11-30-2016 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 21342940)
[img]bpc.h-cdn.co/assets/16/03/480x480/gallery-1453406848-dorco-shai-soft-touch .jpg[/img]

I'm going to keep posting the photos until you either learn to appreciate the natural beauty of a woman... Or to stop devoting so much energy to American politics.

Seriously it's plainly obvious that you're a really nice guy. BUT you're in the smut game so the only politics you honestly should be concerned about are increasing your collection of DEAD PRESIDENTS and ROYALTY PRINTED ON MONEY.

Personally I don't give a shit if a giant meteor slams into the United States and wipes it off the face of the earth as long as I have a chance to transfer my holdings into another nation.



http://img1.imagilive.com/1116/t3_5fpt32.jpg

2MuchMark 11-30-2016 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 21343036)
You noticed people are arguing about flag burning mean while

"Donald Trump Names Steven Mnuchin New Treasury Secretary"

He names a former Golden Sachs/Soros banker, you know, part of establishment big banks he rallied against
There are a few threads of Trump supporters bashing Soros, yet have no problem with Trump hiring a former employee of his

Of course I have a problem with that. I've had problems with everything Trump says or does so far. It's cool that you know who Steven Mnuchin is. What you should do is start a new thread with links to his history and his role in the 2008 financial crisis. Some (former?) US home owners might be really interested to know.

Here, I'll help you get started: Five things you need to know about Steve Mnuchin - BBC News

For all the bitching and moaning that people made about Clinton being in the pocket of big banks, here's Donald Trump, who sits on a fucking toilet made of gold, hiring a Goldman Sacks exec as treasury secretary.

Just insane.


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