No...that's killing your parents. :pimp

I've never burned a dead rat.

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It's expression like porn. When they tried making porn illegal, freedom of expression saved us. What country are you from?

I would.

I would burn Trump as well.

So you don't support the freedom of expression of porn & flag burning as protected by the first amendment. Strange

I don't believe in animal sacrifice but it's protected by law for a reason.

The burning of property is not expression it is arson, and has nothing to do with expression or speech. It was one man as in a one man majority that made it legal but does not make it right, in my opinion. To me it is a despicable act.

its just a piece of cloth. i find it strange that its ok to kill a person who trespasses on someones property, ok to abort a living fetus but burn the flag and you go to jail. makes no sense.

That "piece of cloth" is "the" symbol of our country. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died while serving under that "piece of cloth". That "piece of cloth" is displayed where ever the United States has a presence, on the land, sea, air, and outer space. It is far, far more than just a "piece of cloth". Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.

I find it funny he wants jail time for something the supreme court has ruled is protected free speech, yet he hasn't done any jail time for fraud!

I apparently missed the news report. When was he charged with fraud? More importantly when was he convicted of fraud?

fiddy flag burners
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I think a lot of things legal are disgusting like churches being tax exempt while being legally allowed to discriminate against women.

I love my country and think burning a flag is shitty, but it's legal. Buttfucking is shitty, but it's legal. Raping your wife is shitty, but it's legal.

I think you feel more about the material flag than the rights and history it represents, and your fellow Americans equal rights :2 cents:

If your patriotism makes you a better American than most then you of all people should stand by the American you despise most and defend their rights as your own. This is how Democrats think/act. This is why the vast majority of military voters are registered Democrats :2 cents:

like you said, its a symbol, its not the country, its not a person. if no one cared when someone wanted to burn a flag, it would lose the power and no one would do it. keep killing people but make sure no one harms an inanimate object that is typically made in china.

Spot on :thumbsup

"Buttfucking" is not legal in every state in the union and apparently isn't in 12 states. Raping your wife is not legal in "every" state in the Union. You asked me the question, so I will now ask you the same question, "What country do you live in?" If the answer is the United States then you are very ignorant about American Law. In addition the majority of upper echelon military personnel, as well as career military personnel are Republicans.

Is he going to be acting this way as the President of the United States of America? he has two months to grow the fuck up.

Damn I've been breaking the law!

I was messing with you about the wife rape, that became illegal in 1979.

I'm American born and bred. I don't think I'm a better American because I don't want a flag burned, but clearly you think it makes you a better man, more of an American than me, a better American. By your same logic with your "knowing the law" comment, lawyers are better Americans than you because they know more about the law :2 cents:


Got me! Just realised you're a troll nick registered last month only posting in political threads e2 posts total. Blocking you :thumbsup

Of course you are assuming that I do not have legal training. I think anyone that burns the Flag are not "patriots". A patriot would never burn the Flag, in my opinion.

funny to read GFY libs protect free speech when that speech is flag burning.

when it comes to uttering the N word however, its dangerous & must be wiped out.

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https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/491/397

491 U.S. 397

Texas v. Johnson (No. 88-155)

Argued: March 21, 1989

Decided: June 21, 1989

Do you actually expect the US Supreme Court to reverse itself?

I honorably served in the US Navy for 8 years. My father served before me (WWII). My son is in the Navy now. We all took an oath that among other things included " I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". We all were willing to give our lives to protect YOUR rights, including the right of Free Speech. I had conversations with both my father (while he was alive) and my son about this very issue and we were all in agreement that while we personally would probably never burn a flag we would give our lives to protect your right to burn a flag.

America cannot be destroyed by someone burning a flag. If someone feels strongly enough about how their country is working for them, or not working for them, to express themselves by destroying a symbol of that country than so be it.

Someone disagreeing with what our country is doing is not an enemy of our country. We have the right to seek redress, we have the right to express ourselves, we have the right to disagree with our elected leaders and we have a right to express that disagreement as long as we are doing no physical harm to other people or their property or infringing upon other people's rights.

As was stated earlier, if they don't own the flag that they are burning then they are breaking a different law. If they want to lay out the cash to buy a flag and then just burn it, have at it.

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I too am former military. I have my opinion and you have yours. My opinion is the only one that matters to me in this subject of burning the flag. It is a black and white matter as far as I am concerned.

^^ fake nick ^^

It is my name. Is Bladewire your name? It is a rhetorical question, so no need for you to answer.

Question for you. You are lost out in the wilderness, you have a U.S. Flag and a match and a bunch of very large logs. No kindling, no leaves, nothing to use as a fire starter except your flag. If you do not get a fire started you will die. Do you burn the flag or not?

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And immediate deportation on a cargo plane

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I don't see the need to burn the flag. Don't like the USA say I don't like the USA and book your ass on a one way flight the fuck out da country. Hell I might even pay for it. :2 cents:

Trump Nation :thumbsup

Without hesitation, yes. I am interested in the point that you are going to attempt to make, so carry on please, and make your point.

Just making the point that nothing is sacred.

Also, you stated that "Its value is far more important than the life of a singular person.", but apparently it's value is worth less than your life. So, you putting yourself above all the others?

(second point I noticed later, just using that to poke you with..lol)


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Burn your underwear. :winkwink:

Plaster / Mark you're such a troll you can't even change the way you talk piece of shit :1orglaugh 10pm your time here come the drunk posts :1orglaugh

I never wear clothes out in the wilderness. Helps keep the bears away ;p

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I was not referring to literal life and death but to living "life".

Well, okey dokey then.


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Here's your lesson for today.

The Paradox of Free Speech within the Context of White Supremacy -

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Hi Steve,

I have a question for you: As someone who has served, do you see Flag Burning as an insult to you personally, or to the Military? Or does it depend on the circumstance? Could someone burn the flag to say, protest against the government, but not protest against the American militar? Could a person who has served, and / or, a person who loves their country, still burn the flag for, let's say, a protest against racial discrimination, or perhaps in a protest against oil companies treading on native-owned land?

LOL. Thanks Captain Obvious.

You cannot claim your right to law and order while only supporting the laws you agree with. Unless, you are a hypocrite.

As repugnant as they may be to me, KKK and neo-Nazies have rights of free speech and freedom of assembly. By the same constitutional rights -- I have the right to denounce them.

If you don't like the US Constitution and the laws promulgated then adjudicated by the courts -- get the fuck out of my country -- there are plenty of nations with only state authorized expression and assembly that you can choose from.